Trading for cassel was a failure, but we know where and why that was a failure from the get go.


Trading for green wasn't a failure, the fail was not putting a better defense out there and having a guy ready to go when he petered out

There is absolutely no doubt that Cleveland chose the wrong first round QB in the 2012 draft. I would like to have heard Holmgren's reasoning for passing on RGIII (and Wilson, for that matter).

Considering the other option was Drew Brees. Major fail.
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Not really.

Depends which Bree's we would have gotten. San Diego, or NO.

The big **** up was DJ, who's a great player, over Rodgers.

Wilson is a midget. Pretty easy on that one.
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You'd have to draft and develop a qb to have one ready to go. The bottom line is, this strategy doesn't work.

Yes, every Super Bowl has been won by quarterbacks drafted by said team.

Really? So no team has won a Super Bowl with a QB they didn't draft?

Drew Brees sucking in San Diego is a myth.
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As I've said a million times, I was a huge proponent of Brees. He would have been a perfect fit in Vermeil and Saunders offense and it's a damn shame that Vermeil was dead set on Green.

I don't think Bree's is Bree's without Payton, but that's just my opinion so I'm not gonna state it as a fact. I would have loved to have picked brees

This. With the line and running game, Brees would have developed nicely.
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No, just 70 percent. It isn't significant, statistically.

30 percent of the time.

Geno is getting time to throw that rarely is afforded to young QBs forced into action.

You are OK with INTs if he reads something and a throw goes out on time or even a little late and the defense anticipates the read and jumps the pass. Or the defense may of flat out fool a young QB with a complex coverage you don't see in college.

In his 1st 80 games Peyton Manning threw 100 INTs.

In his 2nd 80 games Peyton Manning threw 53 INTs.

All games 81-225 109 INTs

You need to play within the scheme and get a feel of what passes you can fit in the NFL tight windows and ones that can't no matter how good your timing and arm is, some passes just can't be thrown.

Holding on to the ball or bailing out of the pocket only delays the development process.