So WR is out.

It's gonna be a lineman.

DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin had very nice rookie years. I don't see why a rookie from this class can't do the same

I don't.

But it seems like every drip of information coming from the media is prepping us for something we don't want to happen...

Right now, what we want to happen is either a starting Pro-Bowl level guard (and if you take one in the first round, he better be), a #2/#3 WR from Day 1 who has a legit chance at being the #1 WR in 2/3 years or an impact guy on the defense, who will start right away (like Van Noy or Attaochu.)

Any of those guys are going to help immediately.

Yeah, fans expectations of a 1st round wr would be too high, blah blah blah.


Jacobs is such a toolbag.

He will advocate they take an ol because the learning curve is less, yet the one they took last year sucked shit.

He didn't suck shit. What he didn't do was meet lofty expectations that he would be a stud day 1, which were far from the norm for NFL lineman. He progressed almost weekly, which was a great sign. He also played injured a lot. I'm excited to see what the strength training in the offseason does for him.

People also compare his play to Stephenson's play, which is ****ing stupid given that Stephenson had an extra offseason of strength training and development in the NFL. Stephenson should have looked better than a rookie. Stephenson was a highly touted pick himself, who probably would have went round 1 if he stayed for his senior year.

Adding into all of this is just how spoiled KC fans have been with the tackle position over the years. They've had some very good tackles, never many average guys. I think Fisher is going to be far better than average by year 3.

I think we should all be damn excited about the offensive tackle situation heading into the future because it looks very promising. If the guard situation can be remedied, the Chiefs should boast a stout offensive line.

Edit:

What I'm saying is he didn't look as bad as Black, McIntosh, Carlisle, and so forth. At least he was an actual rookie that showed development. Albert wasn't too stunning his first year either, but at least he didn't get moved clear to the other side of the line.

I didn't set those lofty expectations. The chiefs did wen they took him first overall.

Damn near every chiefs first round pick gets this "your expectations are too high, can't be a stud day 1" crap.

People are ao excited to see the first overall pick in his second year after a year in the weight room. The first ****ing overall pick needed to hit the weight room.

Jesus

FYP.

The expectations of Fisher were right in line with tackles picked around where he was.

It isn't our fault they picked him 1st overall.

I disagree with you both on the expectations, and perhaps that's where we'll ultimately fall (on opposite sides of the fence) on this issue. It is extremely rare for a rookie offensive lineman to be any good, more or less dominant, his rookie year and especially at tackle.

The expectations with Fisher were set to high by fans right out of the gate. The entire process, everyone and their brother that knew anything about football was saying that Fisher had a rare physical skill set and was dominant in his league, but he'll need time to gain strength and adjust to the pro game. The entire thought was that Joeckel was more pro ready than Fisher, but Fisher had far superior tools to work with. I blame the fans, not the franchise.

Whether or not each individual here falls into that category of fan or not is a different story, but as a whole, the Chiefs fandom expected more than they should have. What made it worse was that the kid not only had to adjust to the NFL and get stronger, he had to learn how to play the opposite side of the line. If anyone thinks that is easy, well I can speak from experience that it isn't all that easy.

That's my take anyhow. Not bashing any of you for your opinions, but the expectations, to me were far off base of the normal.

Now, on making an immediate impact. I think that pass rushers and running backs make the biggest immediate splashes, but most often it just comes down to who has the core strength to compete right out of the gate. Most of the time, rookies don't have it.

Everyone knew that was a weak draft and that Fisher was going to need time to adjust. JFC Joekel looked worse and Lane Johnson struggled as well.

Will you ****ing knee jerkers get a grip already? The guy was hurt and played a new position at a much harder talent pool than the ****ing MAC conference.
Let's see what he does this year after a REAL offseason of training and experience.

Hell why is nobody bringing Tavon Austin up? That guy was wanted by several people here yet he didn't do shit outside of 2 games.

This is about player development, which takes more than 1 year.

Weak draft. Horseshit.

Hy is it knee jerk to say the guy sucked? He did. We all saw it. Is it knee jerk to say the chiefs took a player first overall that needed to hit the weight room?

I don't give a shit about Tavon Austin. Would you rather talk about the guy I wanted the chiefs to pick? The defensive rookie if the year who plays a position we are now "hoping" we can get by with?

I swear, it physically hurts some if you guys when people say bad things about the chiefs when they make bad moves.

This same "can't be good in his first year" crap was/is said about dl the chiefs take all the time.

Yet dl around the league come in and play well (win rookie of te year).

And it's ****ing reeruned to say that Fisher was in anywhere near as good of a position to succeed as Sheldon Richardson. That DL was already very good when he got there.
He didn't have to learn to play on the complete opposite side he has always played on. He didn't have to play next to a failed G who got benched. He didn't have to go through injuries.

From the moment Eric Fisher was drafted anyone who follows this team knew he was taken on his incredible ability. Nobody said he was going to be an insanely talented player year 1 like Matt Kalil. Hell none of the other 2 OT's drafted early did shit either. Should they be cut too?

For crying out loud man. You saying a rookie is a bad movie after 1 goddamn year in general is pure idiocy. It's even more reeruned when you realize the guy is playing his natural position on the left side in year 2.

Give it at least this season to see how he's doing. Christ.