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Wildcat2005 09-03-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10875753)
So, the people who a clear majority (2/3 of us) agree are better than Alex Smith:

Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck
Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson
Tom Brady

You could quibble with Roethlisberger or Wilson perhaps, but I think that's pretty fair.

How are Rivers and Newton not on that list?

GordonGekko 09-03-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 10875781)
How are Rivers and Newton not on that list?

Because he doesn't think they are better. Plus the way he structured his list it makes it seem like AS is a top ten Qb.

Also, I'd argue Eli for two fairly significant reasons.

BossChief 09-03-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 10875781)
How are Rivers and Newton not on that list?

Im not sure Id take Cam over Alex.

Rivers is close.

Eleazar 09-03-2014 08:14 AM

To expand on that earlier post:

Clear majority of Chiefsplanet (2/3 of us) feel these QBs are better than Alex Smith:
Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck
Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson
Tom Brady


(Middle third % agree) Smith is roughly comparable to:
Colin Kaepernick
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Tony Romo


(bottom third) Smith is clearly better than:
Andy Dalton
Brian Hoyer
Carson Palmer
Chad Henne
Derek Carr
EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Jay Cutler
Matt Cassel
Mike Glennon
Nick Foles
Robert Griffin
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jake Locker
Ryan Tannehill
Shaun Hill


So based on this, Chiefsplanet feels that Alex is somewhere between #7 and #15 in the league. If you cut the percentages straight across at 50%, Chiefsplanet ranks Alex Smith as #8.

Which is right along the line of where he's being paid I'd guess.

Lex Luthor 09-03-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10874103)
I would take Cassel back at the veteran minimum right now sooner than pay Alex.

Shut your whore mouth.

Wildcat2005 09-03-2014 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10875788)
Im not sure Id take Cam over Alex.

Rivers is close.

Alex over Newton?
haha wow

Philip Rivers has almost twice as many passing yards and over twice as many TDs than Smith while only starting in the league two more years. His career qb rating is a 96 while Smith's is an 81.

In what realm are those two "close"?

Lex Luthor 09-03-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10875786)
Because he doesn't think they are better. Plus the way he structured his list it makes it seem like AS is a top ten Qb.

Also, I'd argue Eli for two fairly significant reasons.

Those reasons being ancient and history?

I'd take Eli's history over Alex Smith. Not so sure I'd take the 2013 version of Eli.

Sandy Vagina 09-03-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10875790)
To expand on that earlier post:

Clear majority of Chiefsplanet (2/3 of us) feel these QBs are better than Alex Smith:
Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck
Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson
Tom Brady


(Middle third % agree) Smith is roughly comparable to:
Colin Kaepernick
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Tony Romo


(bottom third) Smith is clearly better than:
Andy Dalton
Brian Hoyer
Carson Palmer
Chad Henne
Derek Carr
EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Jay Cutler
Matt Cassel
Mike Glennon
Nick Foles
Robert Griffin
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jake Locker
Ryan Tannehill
Shaun Hill


So based on this, Chiefsplanet feels that Alex is somewhere between #7 and #15 in the league. If you cut the percentages straight across at 50%, Chiefsplanet ranks Alex Smith as #8.

Which is right along the line of where he's being paid I'd guess.

Yeah, I wouldn't energetically argue with these conclusions being fair. Now, I wonder what the QB rankings would look like, if factoring in Reid's scheme and the team personnel. Add in the QB experience factor for a team that's clearly young and inexperienced.

BossChief 09-03-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 10875799)
Alex over Newton?
haha wow

Philip Rivers has almost twice as many passing yards and over twice as many TDs than Smith while only starting in the league two more years. His career qb rating is a 96 while Smith's is an 81.

In what realm are those two "close"?

Newton is a lazy guy that cant learn a whole playbook. He will never win anything significant IMO.

Rivers is what?33? He has also had a couple issues with his throwing shoulder...Like I said, it would be close.

GordonGekko 09-03-2014 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10875801)
Those reasons being ancient and history?

I'd take Eli's history over Alex Smith. Not so sure I'd take the 2013 version of Eli.

Uhh **** yea.

New World Order 09-03-2014 08:30 AM

I can't wait to bump this in 2 months.

Mr. Laz 09-03-2014 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10875790)
To expand on that earlier post:

Spoiler!


So based on this, Chiefsplanet feels that Alex is somewhere between #7 and #15 in the league. If you cut the percentages straight across at 50%, Chiefsplanet ranks Alex Smith as #8.

Which is right along the line of where he's being paid I'd guess.

pretty much

Lex Luthor 09-03-2014 08:31 AM

The nice thing about a poll like this that it identifies the truly irrational posters. Anyone who picked Matt Cassel or Chad Henne or Brian Hoyer or Shaun Hill or "All of them" is either trolling or suffering from Alex Smith Derangement Syndrome.

And nice job by the poster who picked both "none of them" and "all of them".

hometeam 09-03-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10875805)
Newton is a lazy guy that cant learn a whole playbook. He will never win anything significant IMO.

Rivers is what?33? He has also had a couple issues with his throwing shoulder...Like I said, it would be close.

Problems with throwing shoulder?

Why because he chunks the football like a hunchback? He has always done that.

Did it to the tune of nearly 5k yards and 32/11 last year, with his highest profile receiver being a rookie. Yea, terrible QB.

Mr. Laz 09-03-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10875813)
I can't wait to bump this in 2 months.

Why, because our shitty Oline and shitty Wrs are going to make the entire offense look like trash?

Ryan,Eli and Flacco wouldn't look any better

We don't know how Wilson would do

Hell ... Brady looks pretty dam shaky when his offense was struggling.


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