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Saul Good 07-12-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11594203)
The defensive metrics for Escobar just never seem to like him as much as it seems they should. Not sure why.

His range and arm are impressive.

That ground ball he fielded is a hit against half the Shortstops in baseball. He turned two like it was nothing. We are spoiled getting to watch him play. Those who just stat-watch will never understand how good he really is.

O.city 07-12-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11594197)
I know our neighbors to the east won't like this but Pittsburgh would be down right dangerous adding those two.

**** you.

But on a more mannerism notr, I doubt they're looking for OF help with what's his face coming back in a month.

Price would fit well in stl though

Hootie 07-12-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 11594204)
We will never know, Cain is staying at 3. And Morales rakes at 5. Not a bad thing to have

I just enjoy poking holes in your terrible arguments.

You could have said, "boy Morales is such a huge upgrade over Butler!" and I would've thought, "gee, that's a decent post!"

Instead you're trying to say our 14th most valuable player is our 1st half MVP

duncan_idaho 07-12-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 11594204)
We will never know, Cain is staying at 3. And Morales rakes at 5. Not a bad thing to have

If Cain had three guys in front of him with .350+ OBPs, he'd likely be well over 50 RBIs.

With men on, they both have OPS north of .900. Morales' is higher, but it is separated by OBP (.404 vs. .357), which has nothing to do with RBI totals unless the bases are juiced.

There is a .20 point gap in their SLG percentage. So yeah, Cain would probably have damn near 60 RBI if hitting in the 5 spot, with all other things being equal.

It actually makes an excellent case for the idea of moving Gordon up in the order.

Coach 07-12-2015 01:35 PM

Come on ump.

bsroyals54 07-12-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11594215)
I just enjoy poking holes in your terrible arguments.

You could have said, "boy Morales is such a huge upgrade over Butler!" and I would've thought, "gee, that's a decent post!"

Instead you're trying to say our 14th most valuable player is our 1st half MVP

Talking about biggest improvement over last year. Hes the highest Improved player on our roster. Comparing to Billy Butler and upgrades over last season. Should be counted as MVP worthy since our roster was lacking 1 thing, runs. Moose is a close runner up for biggest improvement too

O.city 07-12-2015 01:36 PM

Rbis and wins for a pitcher.

Same?

petegz28 07-12-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11594208)
Oh, FWIW, Minnesota is up 5-1.

I think everyone who was saying a month or two ago that Minny will fall off has to come to grips. This division is now between us and Minny.

and make it 6-1

cosmo20002 07-12-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11594154)
Give no ****s about RBIs. Morales hovers around .800 OPS. That's fine with me. He's earning his contract. But to call him our MVP? Absurd.

Morales isn't the MVP, it is Cain of course, but give no ****s about RBIs? That's kind of a ridiculous thing to say. Bringing in runs is kind of important.

lewdog 07-12-2015 01:39 PM

RBIs, the most over-rated stat used by someone who doesn't understand simple mathematics and number of opportunities of guys on base in front of a certain hitter in the lineup.

Hootie 07-12-2015 01:39 PM

Again, just because our DH this year isn't the worst player in baseball like our DH last year doesn't mean that makes him MVP.

lewdog 07-12-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11594230)
Morales isn't the MVP, it is Cain of course, but give no ****s about RBIs? That's kind of a ridiculous thing to say. Bringing in runs is kind of important.

Many of our higher order hitters would have similar RBI numbers if they were hitting in the same spot in the lineup as Morales with guys in front of them getting on base. It's an over-rated statistic.

Saul Good 07-12-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 11594223)
I think everyone who was saying a month or two ago that Minny will fall off has to come to grips. This division is now between us and Minny.

and make it 6-1

At this point, we may as well enjoy watching them drive nails into Detroit's coffin. I don't know if Minnesota has the roster depth to cover up injuries down the stretch.

bsroyals54 07-12-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11594232)
RBIs, the most over-rated stat used by someone who doesn't understand simple mathematics and number of opportunities of guys on base in front a certain hitter in the lineup.

Players have opportunities all the time to put runs on the board for our team bro. We have the highest average in the league, stupid. People are always on base. It means Kendrys has hit with people on base MORE. Meaning hes the guy I want hitting with people on base, always.

ChiefsCountry 07-12-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11594213)
**** you.

But on a more mannerism notr, I doubt they're looking for OF help with what's his face coming back in a month.

Price would fit well in stl though

Price wold fit everywhere.

Ironically look what just popped up on Twitter.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals, pirates among teams looking at outfield help</p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/620311450704326656">July 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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