Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12719052)

If we had the season Oakland did this year I'd be pretty content knowing that there will still be ups and downs, but with a young QB at the helm we would never be totally out of the race. I personally would be fine with 10-6 or 12-4 type seasons where we make it to the playoffs but don't win it all as long as we had a young QB who gave us a glimmer of hope for the future.

Instead we're stuck with a **** stick like Alex Smith and are left with the realization that we have almost no chance of things being better unless absolutely everything goes our way.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719059)

Oakland will take a step back in 2017 and again in 2018, when they have to pay Carr and Mack.

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12719064)

I hope so, but there's also reason to believe they will see continued progression from their young players. Their offense is still potentially dangerous and they have some good pieces on defense. And most of all, they're set at QB for the foreseeable future.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719058)

It was a "massive issue" because the OFFENSE repeatedly failed on 3rd downs.

You're ****ing stupid.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12719081)

and you can't manage to comprehend two different concepts at once

Just because the offense failed on 3rd down doesn't mean our run defense was crappy. I don't want to hear any bullshit about the defense being tired either because our defense gave up yards between the 20s all the time, not just late in the game. Defense tired themselves out as much as anything. They couldn't get off the field on 3rd down until the endzone shortened the field and protected the deep pass for them.

3rd down success
Kansas City
offense rank 20
defense rank 28

2nd source
offense rank 18
defense rank 27

Our offense actually ranked higher on getting 3rd downs than our defense did.

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12719090)

i will say, our defenses bend but do not break, only hindered alex's protections due to long field positions from field goal kick offs. :D

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719059)

Oakland will take a step back in 2017 and again in 2018, when they have to pay Carr and Mack.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12719387)

Run defense will be fine when the real men up front get healthy again.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12719343)

Defense is pretty dam good inside the redzone when they don't have to worry about the deep pass. That's why i think we need an upgrade at CB and maybe even FS. *ducks head from Berry homers*

Berry improved dramatically playing single high this year and might continue to improve. He's not there yet. He just doesn't protect our corners well enough against the deep pass for Sutton to trust it. He doesn't protect the sideline pass much at all.

We don't have any corners that we can trust against the deep pass. Marcus Peters is outfreaking standing at breaking on the ball and defending the short stuff. He might be the best CB in the league at that. He also takes chances and can be beaten deep by a receiver with elite speed.

Once our defense has the endzone against their backs they are one of the best in the league. Top 3 probably and that's because they don't have to pull people back to defend the deep stuff.

but ...... not getting 3 and outs hurt our limited offense by not giving it the short field unless we get a turnover. Turnovers are not really sustainable. :D

I'm not hating anything, just being realistic.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12719414)

Mitchell was a complete stud at CB at the end of the year. You can never have too many CB's, but I think people overlook Mitchell.

Definitely need an upgrade at ILB and probably another DE/NT. All three week one starters were hurt (2 of 3 for the season).

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719059)

Oakland will take a step back in 2017 and again in 2018, when they have to pay Carr and Mack.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12719387)

Run defense will be fine when the real men up front get healthy again.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12719343)

Defense is pretty dam good inside the redzone when they don't have to worry about the deep pass. That's why i think we need an upgrade at CB and maybe even FS. *ducks head from Berry homers*



Berry improved dramatically playing single high this year and might continue to improve. He's not there yet. He just doesn't protect our corners well enough against the deep pass for Sutton to trust it. He doesn't protect the sideline pass much at all.



We don't have any corners that we can trust against the deep pass. Marcus Peters is outfreaking standing at breaking on the ball and defending the short stuff. He might be the best CB in the league at that. He also takes chances and can be beaten deep by a receiver with elite speed.



Once our defense has the endzone against their backs they are one of the best in the league. Top 3 probably and that's because they don't have to pull people back to defend the deep stuff.



but ...... not getting 3 and outs hurt our limited offense by not giving it the short field unless we get a turnover. Turnovers are not really sustainable. :D



I'm not hating anything, just being realistic.