Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16822769)

Yeah, the tipping culture is out of hand, even worse than normal.

The ethical challenge for me is that I want people to make a livable wage, and a lot of jobs don't do that.

Having said that, if the person at the fast food window is making $17 an hour now, and then getting (total guess here) another $5 an hour in tips, that's a full-time equivalent of almost $46,000 per year. In Denver, that actually qualifies as a livable wage, and I wonder how it compares to a lot of new college grad jobs.

Good for them if they can make a livable age at the fast food window, I guess. But they'd better be doing a really good job of giving me fast service and good food.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16822771)

Tipping culture got out of hand when places decided tips should pay wages so we're suppose to feel bad for them when in reality it's the owner being a ****.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16822573)

Not sure how. I don't even really eat at nice places outside of Friday or Saturday Night.

Mon breakfast: Clio Yogurt Bar $2, Perfect Protein Bar $3, Red Bull $3
Mon lunch: Chipotle Burrito with extra steak & chips $17
Mon dinner: Twisted Fresh Southwest Chicken Sandwich & chips $18
Mon late: C4 Energy Drink $2, Cashews $0.50, Yogurt $1.25

Tues breakfast: Toaster Strudel $2, Perfect Protein Bar $3, Red Bull $3
Tues lunch: Panda Express Plate $13
Tues dinner: Hawiaan Bros w/ Pineapple $16
Tues late: CFA Chicken Sandwich and Fries $13, Alani Energy Drink $2.50, Robert Irvine Protein Bar $2

Wed breakfast: Perfect Protein Bar $3, Half a thing of blueberries $3, Red Bull $3
Wed Lunch: Pegahs via Door Dash $27
Wed Dinner: KMachos Mexican Fajita $20
Wed late: C4 Energy drink $2, Cashews $0.50, Beef Jerky $2, Clio Yogurt Bar $2

Thurs breakfast: QuickTrip Donut holes $4, Red Bull $3, Half a pkg of blackberries $3
Thurs lunch: Chipotle burrito bowl with extra steak via Door Dash $30
Thurs dinner: Johnnys Tavern Stir Fry $20
Thurs late: Alani Energy Drink $2.50, Perfect Protein Bar $3

Fri breakfast: Ihop eggs, bacon, waffle via Door Dash $25, Red Bull $3
Fri lunch: Five guys burger and fries $15
Fri dinner: Stockhill Ribeye & glass of wine $80
Fri late: Crumbl Cookies $12, Red Bull $3

Sat breakfast: Perfect bar $3, Red Bull $3, Toaster Strudel $2
Sat lunch: California Pizza Kitchen pizza from Target $10
Sat Dinner: Joes KC Rib Dinner $22
Sat late: Taco Bell Chalupas $13

Sun breakfast: First Watch $20, Red Bull $3
Sun lunch: Chipotle burruto bowl with extra steak via door dash $30
Sun dinner: Street Tacos and rice. $16
Sun late: C4 Energy drink $2.50, KFC Chicken Sandwich $8

Shit I guess it is more than I thought. Thats like $600 a week so $2400 a month. Not sure how you guys with a bunch of mini mes running around can afford it.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16822771)

Tipping culture got out of hand when places decided tips should pay wages so we're suppose to feel bad for them when in reality it's the owner being a ****.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16822573)

Not sure how. I don't even really eat at nice places outside of Friday or Saturday Night.

Mon breakfast: Clio Yogurt Bar $2, Perfect Protein Bar $3, Red Bull $3
Mon lunch: Chipotle Burrito with extra steak & chips $17
Mon dinner: Twisted Fresh Southwest Chicken Sandwich & chips $18
Mon late: C4 Energy Drink $2, Cashews $0.50, Yogurt $1.25

Tues breakfast: Toaster Strudel $2, Perfect Protein Bar $3, Red Bull $3
Tues lunch: Panda Express Plate $13
Tues dinner: Hawiaan Bros w/ Pineapple $16
Tues late: CFA Chicken Sandwich and Fries $13, Alani Energy Drink $2.50, Robert Irvine Protein Bar $2

Wed breakfast: Perfect Protein Bar $3, Half a thing of blueberries $3, Red Bull $3
Wed Lunch: Pegahs via Door Dash $27
Wed Dinner: KMachos Mexican Fajita $20
Wed late: C4 Energy drink $2, Cashews $0.50, Beef Jerky $2, Clio Yogurt Bar $2

Thurs breakfast: QuickTrip Donut holes $4, Red Bull $3, Half a pkg of blackberries $3
Thurs lunch: Chipotle burrito bowl with extra steak via Door Dash $30
Thurs dinner: Johnnys Tavern Stir Fry $20
Thurs late: Alani Energy Drink $2.50, Perfect Protein Bar $3

Fri breakfast: Ihop eggs, bacon, waffle via Door Dash $25, Red Bull $3
Fri lunch: Five guys burger and fries $15
Fri dinner: Stockhill Ribeye & glass of wine $80
Fri late: Crumbl Cookies $12, Red Bull $3

Sat breakfast: Perfect bar $3, Red Bull $3, Toaster Strudel $2
Sat lunch: California Pizza Kitchen pizza from Target $10
Sat Dinner: Joes KC Rib Dinner $22
Sat late: Taco Bell Chalupas $13

Sun breakfast: First Watch $20, Red Bull $3
Sun lunch: Chipotle burruto bowl with extra steak via door dash $30
Sun dinner: Street Tacos and rice. $16
Sun late: C4 Energy drink $2.50, KFC Chicken Sandwich $8

Shit I guess it is more than I thought. Thats like $600 a week so $2400 a month. Not sure how you guys with a bunch of mini mes running around can afford it.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16822779)

Yep. I hate having to use uber now, because the owners are apparently too rich to pay wages to their employees and started telling us to leave tips. I liked uber in the past precisely because I DIDN'T have to leave tips.

Just tell me what something costs and I'll pay it.

I did a Europe trip a couple of months ago, and it was so wonderful to see a price on the menu and pay that price without having taxes and tips added on. I don't understand why we don't do that here. Life would be so much better.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16822779)

I don't understand why we don't do that here.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16822781)

I really hate when you have to make the choice to add the tip BEFORE you get your food or service. 1) I don't know if they are going to do a good job and be deserving of a tip, and 2) I sometimes worry that if I put no tip then they'll spit in my food or something.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16822779)

Yep. I hate having to use uber now, because the owners are apparently too rich to pay wages to their employees and started telling us to leave tips. I liked uber in the past precisely because I DIDN'T have to leave tips.

Just tell me what something costs and I'll pay it.

I did a Europe trip a couple of months ago, and it was so wonderful to see a price on the menu and pay that price without having taxes and tips added on. I don't understand why we don't do that here. Life would be so much better.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16822785)

The US is still firmly in the "work hard and get ahead" mindset, even though a lot of us know that's a lie.

Europeans are pretty good at taking care of the little people. Not to say that it's perfect by any means but in a lot of ways, it's superior to the US.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16822769)

Yeah, the tipping culture is out of hand, even worse than normal.

The ethical challenge for me is that I want people to make a livable wage, and a lot of jobs don't do that.

Having said that, if the person at the fast food window is making $17 an hour now, and then getting (total guess here) another $5 an hour in tips, that's a full-time equivalent of almost $46,000 per year. In Denver, that actually qualifies as a livable wage, and I wonder how it compares to a lot of new college grad jobs.

Good for them if they can make a livable age at the fast food window, I guess. But they'd better be doing a really good job of giving me fast service and good food.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16822797)

BUT...I am a sucker for the ol' round up your change for donation trick.