They need to rein in the skill-based match making a bit. I played a few games last night and was doing OK. I'm an average player...usually stay between 1.2 and 1.4 KDR. So I was doing my usual for 5 or 6 games and then I start getting put in games where I couldn't stay alive for more than 5 seconds. And that kept going on, so I quit because it wasn't fun. I think they should be able to line up the skill in the lobbies better.

And I did have a few lag issues and 'WTF' kill cams.

I had a couple of games this week where I was going 48-6, 35-5....and then you change lobbies and go negative.

I think some of it is skill and A LOT of that is boosters and hackers.

I unlocked the "Rage So Hard you Hulk slam your controller" achievement today.

****ing game.

I broke one of my controllers and put a small hole in the wall by the couch. My wife: "What happened to the wall?!". Me: "Whoa! It looks like maybe one of the kids kicked it or maybe one of their toys."

n00b. I unlocked that one months ago. I'm on level 12 of that particular achievement.

I hadn't done that shit since I was a little kid.

The lag, spawn points and registry in this game is ****ing aggravating.

It would be nice to have 4-6 online to at least try a team. Not sure I've ever seen more than 2 on my list on bo2 at the same time.

I'm not sure how much "migrating hosts" I can handle.

The one thing that gets me overly pissed and makes me rage quit more often is the spawn points. It seems that anytime one player on your team crosses the mid point of the map, the spawn flips. I end up getting shot in the back. If they were sneaking around the map to get to the spawn to kill in the spawn....fine. But the cams that show the guy spawn, then run up behind me piss me off more than anything.

tiny, you and I were doing alright the other day

Xbox

Yes. The spawn flips are ****ing excessive.

There is actually a spawn exploit in Hijacked Domination right now... At the start of the game if you have the "C" flag spawn you can jump off the back of the boat and instantly respawn behind the other team while they are capping the "A" flag. If you catch three or four guys on the flag you can get at least a Lighting Strike and might be one or two kills away from an Orbital V-Sat.

This game man. LMAO

I loved the campaign, and I love zombies... but I can't stand multiplayer . Anyone else get kicked off Xbox live a lot while playing? Honestly this game makes me miss MW3 sometimes when it comes to multiplayer. That's effing sad.

I got the controller hulk smash achievement again.

Another thing that really chaps my ass about this game -- a whole lot of skill isn't required to play this game.

For instance -- I typically tap, burst shoot enemies across the map. Which never ****ing works. The guy who holds the trigger down from clear across the ****ing map kills me. And the real kicker...he's also moving backwards the entire ****ing time.

I miss the days of counterstrike.

host for me is a HUGE disadvantage. I can usually tell if I'm host in the first 20 seconds because that's how bad it is. I won't just leave though, I like to wait till the last second and turn the xbox off, it's pretty funny.

That really started in MW3, well if you had an ACR or a Scar-H you didn't have to tap in MW2 either, but yeah... It used to be you had to burst fire automatic weapons at range or you would get outgunned.

Black Ops 2 doesn't "feel" like COD to me. All of the guns feel the same. In previous COD's each gun was unique and was better in certain situations.

Like in MW2, the Tar 21 was the most SMG-like assault rifle in the game and would crush an ACR up close but wouldn't be nearly as good as the ACR at range. The UMP was the best all around SMG but the P90 had a bigger clip, the Mini Uzi had less recoil, and the MP5 had a great mix of high fire rate and damage but had more recoil...

The guns don't have character anymore. Now if your gun has a small clip and a lot of recoil you can just slap on a grip, extended mags AND still have your suppressor.

This is what I run with most of the time...
http://www.naaminis.com/discus/messages/670/29363.jpg

Oh, and that stupid sniper rifle that shoots like a semi-automatic rifle...

...GTFO.

quickscoping in general is gayer than a bucket of george michael assholes.

Yes, and it makes me host all the ****ing time. I can tell faster usually. When I'm host I load in first and I can see everyone join the game on the score/connection screen. I don't shut my box down though.

I like the hamr mg.

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Anybody gaming tonight?

Will be when I get off work around 12:30 if you want to play

I agree with most except his takes at the end..

Permanent unlocks and and also keep camo's is a good step forward..

Also, his dislike of the guardian and other perks. Anti-camper takes.. Everything he says that needs to be changed is for those that like run and gunning and soundwhoring..

Personally, just fix the lag comp.. everything else balances out enough.. I would say get rid of aim assist period and make it random where your gun aim default is at, but that is because I hate QSing because it is cheap and takes not real talent outside of knowing how the mechanics work..

last night was awful. Kepp and I were playing and Was getting lag killed like a sonnabitch....and would put a clip into someone, see one flash and fall down.

It was as bad as I've seen it.

serious question/ ....how does lag get fixed? I mean, is it something BO2 can address with a patch or something?

or, is it just the way it is?

once enough players quit, the lag should clear up. That's the way it's always been.

It was awful. I think I noticed it most of all on Express. I was using one of the shotguns and come across another guy using the same gun. We must have danced around shooting at where we each thought the other one was for three or four seconds. Eventually I fired a shot, he moved, and then a splash of blood showed up where he used to be and he died. So bad it was comical.

And I found a new favorite gun - SWAT-556 with select fire and tactical stock.

I'm six backfire medals away from getting the humiliation challenge, but tis so frusgrating getting shot as soon as I pick up a weapon...

As stated, never will.. Once enough players quit and only certain players in your regions are playing will it seem better..

The whole COD franchise pisses on their fanbase.. They never fix the true problems with the games..

Sadly, the next console war it will get worse. Why? The better the hardware gets, the sloppier the coding gets.. I played 128player games in the late 90s early 00s on my PC with no problem.. Why?? great coders..


Just need a company to sit down and nail the coding for a fast fps(borderlands was close to doing a COD game, but declined) to make the other companies fall in line..

For the ones still playing. If you want to own noobs like the pros.and not worry about being grouped with great players all the time.

Turn on console. Join gun game. Dont enter game. Gun game does not kick. Leave game on for hours. Gives you zero score and no kills or deaths. As long as it does not error out. When you do come back. It will place you against shitty players.

I guess this is what the youtubers do to get their videos.

Shock charges and the guardian may be the two worst ideas in any Call of Duty, ever.

With out a doubt.

Unless you're on the other end

I don't mind the shock charge. What I can't stand is people who use the target finder, no skill needed.

I don't use them because I'm not a ****ing n00b!

On

You do know there is a super easy counter right?

Do you think this is my first COD game ever?

I can still dislike an aspect of a game whether it can be countered or not.

And shock charges and the guardian are still both ****ing stupid.

try emp grenades + engineer and you will get a boner everytime an enemy uses a guardian or shock charge or anything really. Plus it's an easy 2000+ points per game.

I can't even remember the last time I was bothered by a shock charge or guardian ROFL. When an enemy pulls out a guardian all I see is +125 points.

Trying all day, one away now.

And got it

Emp is awesome, I just stopped a hellstorm missile

This game is broken.

35-0, 6 captures in domination. That was a fun match.

Iowian (slumlord), you sure you have party privacy set to open? It never let's me join you when you invite me

I have been having a lot better luck here lately with the not losing connection or running into monster lag spikes. Starting to enjoy playing multilayer now too as opposed to just zombies.

Mr. Plow and I should be on tonight.


~930pm CST.


360.

On ps3

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"Now you gon' clean up my shit."

ROFL

Had my best back-to-back-to-back-to-back games last night ever.

Kill confirmed.

Went 74-7, 69-9, 53-7 and 33-10.

this game is sooo trash

I downloaded the new map pack and the game keeps freezing. WTF

Anybody else having this issue???

I won't know until tomorrow evening.

with my elite connection this download has taken for****ingever.

I don't have the new map pack (I'm on PS3), but I've had numerous instances where the game freezes up. I can't even quit out of it with the "PS" button...I have to reboot the thing.

How in the hell do you do that?!!!!

Honestly, I just got hot.

My killstreaks did a lot of the work. UAV, sentry, and stealth chopper.

Playing kill confirmed you can get those score streaks pretty quick, assuming you actually collect the tags.

Lag Comp in his favor, and complete idiots on the other side..

You can get scorestreaks, but you need idiots to get that amount of kills from sentry and stealth chopper.. Most people will destroy it after the 2nd death unless they are a moron..

I like to set up a sentry or guardian away from the enemy on their side of the map.. They try and destroy it and I snipe them before they can.. You have to set them up away from walls though out in the open so they cannot blackhat behind safety..

You sure enjoy pissing on my parade.

And it isn't my fault I get stuck with a lobby full of idiot enemies after playing this game a couple of days worth.

Typically it is the opposite.

Played two rounds worth.

No freezing here, sir.

No, you still did an amazing job..

Not a huge fan of the new zombie map yet.

Holy shit, I've had a few games freeze up, like said by others, have to re-boot to start over. After this last update, I've had exactly one game not freeze up out of about 8 or 10. Now, I keep getting a Probation Period for quitting too many matches and can't play a public match for 5 minutes after I log back in.

I'm thinking it's time to take BO2, along with a few other older games, into gamestop and get something different. This is pretty ****ed up.

Wow...I just went 29-10 with 4 caps and 10 defends. The rest of my team? 3-57.

Sucks today

But not freezing

What is up with Treyarch making those dumbass zombie achievements that require 4 players and 8 hours of time?

Like you've got anything better to do.

Nerd.

I have the 8 hours, I just don't have the 4 friends.

haven't played in at least a month. Is the lag still horrible?

So I bought this a couple days ago at the urging of a good friend.

Have to say, I'm not really a fan. I don't like the perks, not a fan of the guns, spawn points are all funky, and the lag sucks. Also, what's up with the pistols being so ridiculously overpowered? I think I have a better K/D holding the Tac-45 than any of those piece of shit SMGs. All the shock charges, bouncing betties and claymores are annoying as hell too. You have to run Engineer as your 3rd perk if you run-n-gun.

Speaking of running and gunning, you basically can't do that in this game. Well, I can't yet anyway. I'm not sure if its the lag, the fact that I just don't know the maps very well, or those worthless ass SMGs (seriously, they ****ing suck), but whenever I run-n-gun I get slaughtered. I had to completely change up my play style in order to be competitive. Now I play slow and cautious with an AR, which I hate. I prefer to run around like a mad man.

I will say that I'm pretty good at run-n-gun with the shotgun though. I use the SS12 or whatever with the Tac-45 backup and almost always go above 2 K/D so that's good. You just have to constantly be moving and dipping in and out of buildings/structures and never get caught out in the open.

Umm, you can roll fools with the smgs.. I think you just need to learn the game and maps.. I run n gun with them and do fine.. The lag does hinder it though, and you have to switch to AR or a shotty..