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Reerun_KC 02-01-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370834)
interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

Only this fanbase would be drooling and beating off for Alex Smith...

Molitoth 02-01-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370834)
interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

Did you watch Alex Smith in the first few years?

How would Alex Smith be without a great defense and running game?
The 49ers are stacked with talent.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:33 PM

Chiefs fans want to Bargain shop at positions of highest importance, yet are ok investing high picks at positions that are available in bargain shopping.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9370854)
Only this fanbase would be drooling and beating off for Alex Smith...

I'm not, but the Chiefs are going to acquire more than one QB, probably draft and trade or FA. I don't think the QB they get in Fa should have no threat to start just to leave a path for a first round QB. I want them to get the best they can in all ways possible.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:35 PM

Why do we want competition for our first round first overall picked QB? By taking him there, you are saying he's the guy to lead this franchise. Why not give him every opportunity to do that?


Again, Seattle didn't do what everyone is wanting the Chiefs to do.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370841)
I have.. I've seen smith suck donkey balls with shitty coaching, i've seen smith be a good game manager with great coaching.

i've seen cassel suck donkey balls with horrendous coaching, i've seen cassel be a good game manager with great coaching.

your point?

That Smith is better than Cassel.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370880)
That Smith is better than Cassel.

Again, so are we just looking for better than Cassel or good?

O.city 02-01-2013 03:38 PM

I want the Chiefs to have a great starting QB. I'm concerned about hte backup spot, but not to a point where I'm going to invest a great deal of money into it.


If Andy Reid is this QB guru we think he is, why not just grab a 6th rounder or later and have him work with Reid? He is the QB whisperer right? It's what GB does, which is where our GM was taught.

ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 03:38 PM

I must be missing something here. This fan base is drooling over Alex Smiff??? I have not seen that. I have seen fans discussing the rumors that are floating around about their team. I don't think Reid and company are going to try to sell this franchise/fan base with the "same o same o".......I mean, Alex Smith hasn't been good. If this FO goes against the fan bases wishes....surely it is for good reason.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370874)
I'm not, but the Chiefs are going to acquire more than one QB, probably draft and trade or FA. I don't think the QB they get in Fa should have no threat to start just to leave a path for a first round QB. I want them to get the best they can in all ways possible.

You're asking for a hypothetical scenario that NEVER happens in the NFL.

Smith is a proven starter in this league. If he comes in here, he will start. There won't be a competition. And there won't be a 1st round QB.

He wants to leave SF for PRECISELY THIS REASON.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9370887)
I must be missing something here. This fan base is drooling over Alex Smiff??? I have not seen that. I have seen fans discussing the rumors that are floating around about their team. I don't think Reid and company are going to try to sell this franchise/fan base with the "same o same o".......I mean, Alex Smith hasn't been good. If this FO goes against the fan bases wishes....surely it is for good reason.

Alex Smith gets mentioned multiple times every day on the radio. Callers overwhelming would rather have Alex Smith and Joeckel than any other scenario.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:42 PM

Yeah, and it's maddening.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370883)
Again, so are we just looking for better than Cassel or good?

I guess you're missing where I'm coming from. I don't see Smith as the answer. I see him as the best option to join a young QB. The Chiefs are drafting a QB 1st or 2nd this year. I don't want Cassel to be the backup, and I don't want the worst FA we can find so that it's the rookie or nothing. Bottom line, I trust Reid with QBs. I trust him to find a good QB in the draft. Heck, in the worst QB year I can remember, he found the best one. As Alex Smith goes, I don't expect him to sign a big deal here, if he wants that he can go elsewhere, but the people saying it'd be Cassel all over again are wrong.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370923)
I guess you're missing where I'm coming from. I don't see Smith as the answer. I see him as the best option to join a young QB. The Chiefs are drafting a QB 1st or 2nd this year. I don't want Cassel to be the backup, and I don't want the worst FA we can find so that it's the rookie or nothing. Bottom line, I trust Reid with QBs. I trust him to find a good QB in the draft. Heck, in the worst QB year I can remember, he found the best one. As Alex Smith goes, I don't expect him to sign a big deal here, if he wants that he can go elsewhere, but the people saying it'd be Cassel all over again are wrong.

Alex Smith is not going to sign a 1-year deal to come in here and tutor a rook. Is anybody paying attention to why the guy is even on the block?

CoMoChief 02-01-2013 03:52 PM

no thanks to mr game manager 1st overall bust

BigMeatballDave 02-01-2013 03:53 PM

Let Albert and Bowe walk.

Sign Alex Smith.

Draft Joeckel #1.

Championship.

Profit.

:)

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9370936)
Let Albert and Bowe walk.

Sign Alex Smith.

Draft Joeckel #1.

Championship.

Profit.

:)

Put that on Facebook. You'll get 100 likes instantaneously...

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370893)
You're asking for a hypothetical scenario that NEVER happens in the NFL.

Smith is a proven starter in this league. If he comes in here, he will start. There won't be a competition. And there won't be a 1st round QB.

He wants to leave SF for PRECISELY THIS REASON.

This.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370895)
Alex Smith gets mentioned multiple times every day on the radio. Callers overwhelming would rather have Alex Smith and Joeckel than any other scenario.

You have the choice to shut it off, you know.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9370942)
You have the choice to shut it off, you know.

I prefer stupid to silence.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370928)
Alex Smith is not going to sign a 1-year deal to come in here and tutor a rook. Is anybody paying attention to why the guy is even on the block?

Smith will be very disappointed then. Because I don't think any team is signing him, and saying, QB position, Solved! He's going to be a short term guy for any team that signs him.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370947)
Smith will be very disappointed then. Because I don't think any team is signing him, and saying, QB position, Solved! He's going to be a short term guy for any team that signs him.

If a team will give Matt Flynn a multi-year deal, they'll give Smith a multi-year deal.

Hell, if it wasn't for Reid and Dorsey - if Scott Pioli was still here - I would have bet money he'd be the starter in KC next year.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370923)
I guess you're missing where I'm coming from. I don't see Smith as the answer. I see him as the best option to join a young QB. The Chiefs are drafting a QB 1st or 2nd this year. I don't want Cassel to be the backup, and I don't want the worst FA we can find so that it's the rookie or nothing. Bottom line, I trust Reid with QBs. I trust him to find a good QB in the draft. Heck, in the worst QB year I can remember, he found the best one. As Alex Smith goes, I don't expect him to sign a big deal here, if he wants that he can go elsewhere, but the people saying it'd be Cassel all over again are wrong.

Well, if you trust him so much with QB's, why not just draft another one in the 5 round?

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 04:00 PM

You don't always have to get stupid people to agree with you guys.

You guys know your ****, and those who do this for a living (ie Reid and Dorsey) also tend to know their ****, too. The dumb****s on the radio aren't going to be making the decision.

Take solace in that fact. It's as simple as that.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9370964)
Take solace in that fact. It's as simple as that.

We do. ;)

Sometimes it's just hard not to stare at the car wreck as you drive by...

Messier 02-01-2013 04:04 PM

The Chiefs a signing a veteran, even if they draft Geno Smith. I don't want to trade for Smith, but if he's a FA, I like him more than Flynn I like him more than Kolb, I like him more than Vick. There's someone I like better, and that's Nick Foles, but that would have to be a trade, and he'd be more likely than Smith to be seen as the solution at QB, and no first round QB.

Messier 02-01-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370960)
Well, if you trust him so much with QB's, why not just draft another one in the 5 round?

You don't Reid with QBs?

bevischief 02-01-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370945)
I prefer stupid to silence.

I prefer silence to stupid. Small animals don't die.

O.city 02-01-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370986)
You don't Reid with QBs?

Yeah, I do.


So it makes no sense to throw assets at a guy when you can get one who will work the same with a later round pick.

Messier 02-01-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370990)
Yeah, I do.


So it makes no sense to throw assets at a guy when you can get one who will work the same with a later round pick.

I forgot to add the word trust. Thanks for overlooking that.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9370989)
I prefer silence to stupid. Small animals don't die.

I find stupid to be thoroughly entertaining.

bevischief 02-01-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9371037)
I find stupid to be thoroughly entertaining.

All depends on how much at one time.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9371043)
All depends on how much at one time.

Listen to 810, it's a steady trickle all day. :D

bevischief 02-01-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9371056)
Listen to 810, it's a steady trickle all day. :D

I know that is why I haven't listened in a while.


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