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htismaqe 02-23-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9427937)
and if they draft a guard first?

They're ****ing morons.

EDIT: And that has nothing to do with Jeff Allen. I don't care if the depth chart at OG said "to be filled" in every slot, taking a guard at #1 is DUMB.

Halfcan 02-23-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9427885)
These !

Reid wants playmaker QBs who can be depended upon to put the game on their backs to win in the 4th quarter when need be. Donovan,Michael and Nick(high potential but unfinished project) can do this.

Alex Smith is a system game manager type QB. He is not a playmaker QB that can 'at any moment' be a game changer type of QB plain and simple.

Look it.

Dorsey = Favre and Rodgers.
Reid = McNabb and Vick.

Smith ? Really ??

Yep definately Not a Alex Smith fan.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-23-2013 10:43 AM

See the foles thread for trade update.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 01:08 PM

FML

http://on.nfl.com/raprundown

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 01:09 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...iters_rapsheet

Mother****erJones 02-24-2013 01:10 PM

Saw that. **** that man I want Geno Smith. Dont want Alex Smith and Luke Joeckel. WE HAVE A LT in Albert, now get our QB in Geno

penbrook 02-24-2013 01:16 PM

I think it's a smokescreen. Rappoport also said the chiefs would like to re signBranden Albert.

Bill Lundberg 02-24-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9432124)
I think it's a smokescreen. Rappoport also said the chiefs would like to re signBranden Albert.

And retain Pioli.. And hire Ferentz.


The guy never gets Chiefs news right

Cannibal 02-24-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9432105)

1) The Kansas City Chiefs like Alex Smith, Luke Joeckel. The Chiefs are in the full evaluation mode of the entire organization, with general manager John Dorsey still in the process of figuring out the team he has. But word is starting to leak of their interest in the San Francisco 49ers' backup quarterback. At this point, based on what I'm hearing, Kansas City has shown more interest than anyone else in dealing for a quarterback who could step in and start from Day 1 while the rest of the franchise is rebuilt. The 49ers spent this week trying to lay ground for a Smith deal and they'll do the same next week before trading becomes an official option on March 12, when free agency begins. Plus, the Chiefs could draft a developmental quarterback and know Smith won't tear the place apart if he's replaced. Apparently, the Chiefs are also high on Joeckel, the Texas A&M offensive tackle. If they're planning to take him with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, they could let Branden Albert -- their own stellar left tackle -- walk in free agency, where he'll get a ton of interest. We'll know all of this before April's draft. If Albert becomes available, the Chiefs will have tipped their hand.

Cannibal 02-24-2013 01:48 PM

Makes me sick to my stomach.

Priest31kc 02-24-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9432241)
1) The Kansas City Chiefs like Alex Smith, Luke Joeckel. The Chiefs are in the full evaluation mode of the entire organization, with general manager John Dorsey still in the process of figuring out the team he has. But word is starting to leak of their interest in the San Francisco 49ers' backup quarterback. At this point, based on what I'm hearing, Kansas City has shown more interest than anyone else in dealing for a quarterback who could step in and start from Day 1 while the rest of the franchise is rebuilt. The 49ers spent this week trying to lay ground for a Smith deal and they'll do the same next week before trading becomes an official option on March 12, when free agency begins. Plus, the Chiefs could draft a developmental quarterback and know Smith won't tear the place apart if he's replaced. Apparently, the Chiefs are also high on Joeckel, the Texas A&M offensive tackle. If they're planning to take him with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, they could let Branden Albert -- their own stellar left tackle -- walk in free agency, where he'll get a ton of interest. We'll know all of this before April's draft. If Albert becomes available, the Chiefs will have tipped their hand.

What would be the purpose of just making that up? How would that benefit the Chiefs? If someone with the Chiefs leaked that of course...

Cannibal 02-24-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9432248)
What would be the purpose of just making that up? How would that benefit the Chiefs? If someone with the Chiefs leaked that of course...

I hope you're right. Still hate these ****ing articles.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2013 01:51 PM

Alex Smith was protected in San Fran

He's got a better arm than cassel but tbh i don't know that he significantly better anywhere else.

slightly better Kyle Orton?


could be wrong but feels like a big bucket of 'meh' to me

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 01:51 PM

Just want ****ing March 12th to get here.

Bowser 02-24-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9432242)
Makes me sick to my stomach.

Relax. When have these turdbirds ever been dead on accurate, much less two months before the draft?

chiefscafan 02-24-2013 01:52 PM

Me too I think this is incredibly stupid

Priest31kc 02-24-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9432242)
Makes me sick to my stomach.

This.

If we trade for Alex, let Albert walk & draft Joeckel, I will probably cry.

I will have no excitement towards the upcoming season at all. There will be no hope.

All we have to do is the logical thing. Re-sign our Top 10 LT & finally draft our very own franchise QB...

But everything is pointing to us doing the exact opposite...OF COURSE!

Priest31kc 02-24-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9432255)
I hope you're right. Still hate these ****ing articles.

No I was asking a question lol...

I'm hoping its just some made up bullshit, but Im wondering how making that up would benefit the Chiefs at all? Like why leak that if it wasn't true?

Thats why its concerning to me...

Cannibal 02-24-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9432263)
This.

If we trade for Alex, let Albert walk & draft Joeckel, I will probably cry.

I will have no excitement towards the upcoming season at all. There will be no hope.

We'd basically be treading water. Total waste of the # 1 overall pick, not to mention whatever we'd have to give up to get Smith.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9432263)
.

Dude, your sig is ****ing sweet and all but its ****ing slowing me down...can we reduce that or do a still?

FD 02-24-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9432269)
No I was asking a question lol...

I'm hoping its just some made up bullshit, but Im wondering how making that up would benefit the Chiefs at all? Like why leak that if it wasn't true?

Thats why its concerning to me...

Only answer I can figure is, if Reid really wants Foles, leaking interest in Smith could help lower the price.

Hammock Parties 02-24-2013 03:25 PM

Priest, yeah your sig is huge and has been over the limits for awhile.

Pick one of the GIFs and I'll make you a small version.

htismaqe 02-24-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 9432248)
What would be the purpose of just making that up? How would that benefit the Chiefs? If someone with the Chiefs leaked that of course...

The Chiefs didn't leak it.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9432803)
The Chiefs didn't leak it.

Who did...?

htismaqe 02-24-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9432806)
Who did...?

Who cares?

This stuff is getting old.

the Talking Can 02-24-2013 04:12 PM

anyone could have had smith last year....


so we're going to trade for him this year?

jesus pathetic christ...might as well just light the whole god damn place on fire

In58men 02-24-2013 04:13 PM

**** ALEX SMITH

htismaqe 02-24-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9432894)
anyone could have had smith last year....


so we're going to trade for him this year?

jesus pathetic christ...might as well just light the whole god damn place on fire

It's a lot of meaningless chatter. I am done listening to these douchebags in the media.

Thig Lyfe 02-24-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9432898)
**** ALEX SMITH

THIS

Stad 02-24-2013 04:20 PM

:(

Titty Meat 02-24-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9432916)
THIS

ALEX SMITH

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-24-2013 04:33 PM

Why take a chance on a first round QB that may fail? Trade for one that already has failed and pay the vet frieght!!!!

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 04:54 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12

Mr_Tomahawk 02-24-2013 04:54 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

Hammock Parties 02-24-2013 04:55 PM

It's not the Chiefs.

Cannibal 02-24-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9433120)
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

Better be JAX

Mother****erJones 02-24-2013 04:56 PM

Oh god

O.city 02-24-2013 04:56 PM

Well, ****. There goes that.

Mother****erJones 02-24-2013 04:56 PM

Its definitely KC

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-24-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9433119)
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12

Someone please take that eye out now. I take that back it is the Bills. Gotta be the Bills.

RUSH 02-24-2013 04:58 PM

This can't seriously happen again, can it?

Another regime, another trade for another backup QB.

This can't be real life. Hope it's Jax.

thePhoenix 02-24-2013 04:59 PM

Let me give you guys some insight on Alex from someone who has watched every snap he has taken in his career since I haven't missed a snap of a 49ers game since 1990.


First Ill say that Alex is a far better option than Montana at the end of his career, or Bono or Grbac. Montana had already lost the just adequate arm strength he had in his prime due to the elbow injuries. Bono was always just a middle of the pack QB and Grbac was never a legitimate starter to begin with he had great deep touch but that was it.

If you want to Compare a former 49ers to Chiefs QB It would have to be Steve Deberg (even though I think Smiths ability is much greater) Deberg was a young QB with the 9ers but was ushered out of town because in Bill Walshs own words he wanted Joe to take Control of the team and that couldnt happen as long as there was another young talented QB with more exp on the roster. Bill just wanted his guy in there. The story came out this week that Jim Harbaugh told his father that Kaep was his favorite player in that draft..... He was going to get His guy in no matter what. It has nothing to Do with Smiths ability It was about Kaeps super ability and the prize pupil of a QB guru who wants to change the NFL. personally I think Smith play and the fact that the 9ers were looking like superbowl favorites only pushed him to make the switch earlier before management and the fan base wouldnt let him anymore.
The Physical comparisons between Cassel and Smith are not even in the same ball park. There is this thought that is being spread around that Alex has a noodle arm which is totally false. I think it mainly comes from the fact that people hear he is a Game manager (also completely false but ill get to that later) and he was replaced by a QB with a stronger arm. The fact is that Kaep has John Elway, Brett Favre type arm strength and just because Alex doesn't throw as hard as that doesn't mean he has a weak arm. Id venture to say its still in the top 1/3 of the NFL. Where as Cassel is easily in the bottom 1/3. As far as running ability goes just watch the two play and you will see a vast difference. Arm strength in general to me is the most overrated aspect of QB play, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady,and Steve Young off the top of my head all just have or had Adequate arm strength. The catch here though is that even though in real life accuracy and smarts are more important than arm strength there is a minimum threshold to truly be effective, you have to be able to throw skinny posts and deep out patterns to keep the defense honest. I believe that Smith is some distance above that threshold (Scouts agree with me thus the 1st round selection) also he makes thees throws on a consistant basis and Cassel is below it. He just cant make every throw that needs to be made consistantly and so he must be protected by the scheme. Ill also mention that Smith is considered to be one of the smartest and most accurate QBs in the NFL Cassel is at least not nearly as accurate.

Just briefly another Smith myth is that his small hands are troublesome and the cause for so many fumbles the media got hold of this and ran with it (tony kornheiser to this day still call him ol small hands) when the truth is this his hands measure at 9.375 inches which is pretty average for an NFL QB and Colin Kaepernick for instance is smaller at 9.25. Since the early part of his career he has learned how to take care of the ball not only when throwing but also in the pocket he has been pretty amazing at not fumbling in the last 4 years for instance he has been sacked 115 times ( the 9ers O-line is all world at run blocking but just average at best pass blocking) and has only fumbled 17 times! thats thats not lost fumbles its all fumbles including in flubbed QB center exchanges. Harbaugh even commented on it several times how remarkable it is that he has such a grip on the ball in the pocket and how even when defenders get their hand right on the ball they cant rip it away.

Everyone knows that Smith didnt exactly have the best circumstances early in his career but most fail to see the extent of those

2005 His Rookie season He is 21 years old and the youngest to ever play QB in the NFL due to the fact that he graduated with an Econ degree in just 2 years. Because he already had his degree the NFL waived their normal rule that a player must be at least 3 years removed from their HS class to enter the draft. The best WRs on the team were Brandon LLoyd (5 years before he ever did anything decent in the league) and Anaz Battle lol. As far as the OC it was McCarthy who is obviously very good but Alex had him at the wrong time in his career. when you consider he was trying to learn a very complex offense when he had never taken a snap under center in college playing exclusively in the spread for Myers Utes. The result a Rate of 40.8.......gag..... obviously terrible people are already calling him a bust he should have never played this season, but there's pressure to play your #1 overall pick no matter the situation.

2006 McCarthy got the Packers job and the 9ers made a good hire in Turner he isnt a QB guru like someone on this forum stated he is more of a RB guru if anything but he is one of the worlds best play callers none the less. Alex had to start over learning NFL offense because turner runs coryell system compared to the WCO system McCarthy does totally different style and all new terminology. But by the end of the season Alex was showing lots of progress Turner bragged about him constantly and a couple times called him the best deep ball thrower he has ever worked with. Many were predicting big things for him in the future. His top WRs for the 06 year were Antonio Bryant and Anaz Battle lol. the result a rate of 74.8 considering what he had to work with and how much he had to learn and how he played near the end of the season it was pretty successful

2007 The first year of big expectations Pundits everywhere were picking the 9ers to have a big season Norv turner left to coach SD "Go ****your self San Diego"-Ron Burgandy and Mike Nolan made the decision that imo killed his job when he hired Jim Hostler as the OC he was the worst OC I had ever seen. He really hadnt a clue how to call a game or even how to layer routes in the passing game. Every play was all deep or all short and the next time that "hot routes" will be introduced while Alex is QB is when Harbaugh is hired. In 07 season 4 different QBs play none of them break 250 pass yards the high water mark is 237 yard in an OT win vs the Cards. 14of17 games they failed to reach even 200 yards passing and 4 times they failed to reach 100 yards passing

The big story this season though is the shoulder injury. On the third play from scrimmage in the 4th game Rocky Bernard sacks Alex and Alex suffers a grade 3 separation of his shoulder he sits out the rest of this game and the next two games. The 9ers with their new high expectations are suddenly now 2-4 and Nolan pulls the ultimate weasel cop out job ever and blames his injured QB for their piss poor record saying in the media in different words that Alex wasnt tough enough, and called his leadership into question Alex still being young and the opposite of a me first player tried to play the next 4 games with a severely separated throwing shoulder. His gift of accuracy was totally wiped out. He was terrible and understandably so, they lost all four games and at that time the season was lost at 2-8 so the team and Alex finally decided to shut it down for the season. He has surgery on the shoulder and the Bust label was cemented in most fans eyes during this disappointing season its just too bad that more fans dont look beyond the surface. The best WRs in the 07 season were Arnaz Battle who led the team with 600 yards and Darrell Jackson both of whom would have struggled to be a WR4 on another team. They combined for 548 yards for the rest of their career lol the result a rate of 57.2 The combination of terrible coaching, terrible WR talent and a severely separated shoulder explain his terrible season and this 07 and his rookie 05 season are why its silly to compare his career stats vs other QBs

2008 Nolan realized he need an actual NFL Offense so he hires Mike Martz which was a pretty good move IMO considering Nolan new nothing about Offense and left it up to Martz. In training camp there is a there is a 3 way battle for the top spot JT O Sullivan wins it further cementing the bust label. Most fans thought this was because Alex wasnt talented enough or that JTO won the competition because of his knowledge of the Martz system, but Martz has said since then in interviews that he could tell that Alex still wasnt healthy and not as accurate as he needed to be, and that he wished he could have had a healthy Alex to work with. Smith had surgery a second time on his shoulder before the season and sits out the entire year rehabbing. The team under achieves drastically again and Nolan is fired Singletary takes over and decides that he wants to run an exclusively smash mouth offense. He doesnt want to hear from Martz about needing a QB that can make all the throws because he was going to roll with Hill. Hill was 5-3 after taking over like that was a great accomplishment, so he cans Martz.

2009 9er fans are stuck again with a HC that knows absolutely nothing about offense and he is the one selecting the OC (sigh) HE hires Jimmy Raye who started coaching when players still wore leather helmets. Sing Interviewed many qualified candidates including Linehan, Chudzinski, and Hue Jackson but they all literally ran out of the building when sing told them that their plan was to run power as our 1st 2nd and 3rd option and they only pass if they need to. Raye was too old and feeble to get away so he had to take the job. Linehan even took the same job with the lowly ( at the time ) lions after turning down Sing. The offense under Raye was very predictable and very out dated, the passing routes were from another era, very simple and unimaginative. and they tried to run power on virtually every play even with a light OL. After starting the season 3-3 Raye was able to convince Sing that a QB with a stronger arm than Hill was needed to loosen up the D for the run game. So Alex was reinserted into the starting line up. SF fans were beside themselves saying they couldnt believe the great bust was getting another chance. And Im thinking what chance exactly did he have before to be successful? his second season when he played reasonably well? The top WRs for the 09 season are the rookie Michael Crabtree who led the WRs with 625 yards despite having no training camp or preseason and holding out for the first 5 games. Its unlikely that they even got toplay catch many time together before they were in the games together. And Joshua Morgan who was a WR4 this year in Was. The result a rate of 81.5 a nice improvement and pretty decent considering the lack of overall talent to throw to and the fact he had to shake off nearly two years of rust after 2 shoulder surgeries.

2010 expectations part duex. Again the 9ers are supposed to be a pretty competitive team and challenge fo a playoff spot. there is even some renewed hope in Alex by the skeptical fans. For the first time in his career Alex will not have to learn a new offense in the off season because SF will have the same OC. Its just too bad that OC was an ancient man running an ancient scheme backed by a HC that has an ancient ideal of Offense. Raye makes it only thru the 3rd game of the season before he is fired and former QB coach Mike Johnson is hired to take his place. after Raye was fired there were reports that surfaced from players that opposing defenders would literally repeatedly call out every play the offense had called and this happened on several occasions. Also it was said by anyone that watched the game film that literally 90% or better of the 9er run plays followed right behind rookie G Mike Iupati. There was also an issue during this season with an injury to Smiths non throwing shoulder allowing Troy Smith playing time. When the backup QB came in and had a couple big games on teams with no film against him by chucking wounded ducks deep all over the field Sing wasnt Knowledgeable enough to realize that wasnt sustainable and it took 6 games for Sing to have enough of that ridiculous experiment. Had Alex started some of those games its the feeling of many that that the 9ers would have made the playoffs that year and Sing could have kept his job ( thank god he didnt) when Alex did finally get his job back and Johnson had some time to form a real offensive plan of attack it was then contrary to popular belief that his play and stats started going thru the roof. For the first time since he was a 22 year old second year QB there was some talent and a real offensive philosophy around him.

2011 at the end of the 2010 season Alex was a free agent and after the way he had been disrespected by fans and management he literally laughed at a reporter that asked him if he would consider coming back, not being snarky just really amused someone would ask him that question. then Jim Harbaugh was hired Jim didnt have a QB on the roster and he viewed Alex as the best option of all the available talent Harbaugh pushed hard and was able to convince Alex to stay because deep down he wanted to be successful here and show everyone what he could be. They gave him a play book during the lock out and even though he wasnt under contract he personally reached out to the whole team and organized/conducted what the media called camp Alex. He had an excellent season the result a rate of 90.7 which is even more impressive because he yet again still didnt have top notch WR talent Crabtree is a borderline 1 but the niners second most yards by a WR was Kyle Williams with 241 still somehow he managed a shoot out victory vs the saints in the playoffs. Some critics like to point out that he didnt have a big game against the Giants but if you watch that game you know it was a windy miserable mess and Eli who gets credit for winning didnt play that much better and he had 3 fantastic WRs when Alex had Brett Swain as a starter lol.

2012 It begins with Peytongate When I think back on it now I wonder if the fact that Peyton could easily be ushered out even from a successful team because of his age when Kaep was ready had much to do with the whole secret private meeting. But beyond that word came that Alex was working on his mechanics with Tom House who was famous for working with Drew Brees. According to Alex there were some mechanical issues dating all the way back to 2007 when he tried to throw with a badly injured shoulder. and in camp he was pretty phenomenal according to reports that said repeatedly that there was NO question who the best QB was there was also excitement because Alex would finally again get to use the same playbook as the season before. they also addes more WR options to go with Crabtree they had Manningham and Moss no where near the best in the league but by far the best group he has ever had to work with. The results fantastic a rate of 104.1 Also take note that the 2 worst by far games of the 8 game season came after a finger injury on his throwing hand with out those two poor games his #s would have been astronomical.

Another Smith myth is that he has reached his talent cap excluding the 2007 season with the shoulder injury this is the ratings of all the seasons of his career in order 40.8, 74.8, 81.5, 82.1, 90.7, 104.1 ..... notice that it goes up each year? he is just 29 next year the best years for QBs are generally in their early 30s

Last Smith myth is that he is just a game manager. He has all the intelligence and the physical ability to put up huge #s as a QB but since his first day in the league he has only played for conservative run first coaches. this is even true about Harbaugh you just dont put up big passing numbers in his offense Kaep doesnt and wont either its still very much run first and sit on leads type of O so the efficiency numbers are all you can go by and figure they would likely translate if he just threw more often and those are off the chart good. also earlier in his career part of the struggles he had were because of being reigned in it wasnt something he was used to after playing in the spread in college he always looked great when the offense was opened up in more desperate situations because he was just more comfortable that way Andy Reid saw this first hand twice. One more point is that when the the game manager tag first became the in thing to call him last year in 2010 he was second in the league in 4thqtr comebacks and game winning drives only behind Eli

Chiefs Pantalones 02-24-2013 05:00 PM

If it's us...strike one for Dorsey/Reid and they haven't even got to draft day yet.

Cannibal 02-24-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thePhoenix (Post 9433148)
Let me give you guys some insight on Alex from someone who has watched every snap he has taken in his career since I...

Quit posting this tripe in every thread on the front page, tard.

splatbass 02-25-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9427857)
I've been a fan since the early 1980's.

It's not that they made A move I didn't like.

It's that they've made HUNDREDS OF MOVES I didn't like.

I was literally HALF THE AGE I am now the last time they won a playoff game.

So you can take your sanctimonious self-righteous bullshit and shove it up your ass.

Sorry, you are a crybaby drama queen. You constantly threaten to stop being a fan of the Chiefs if they do something, yet you are still here. You act like a spoiled kid pouting because you aren't getting your way.

When the whiners, crybabies and drama queens finally do leave this forum it will be a lot more enjoyable around here.

Molitoth 02-25-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9435919)
Sorry, you are a crybaby drama queen. You constantly threaten to stop being a fan of the Chiefs if they do something, yet you are still here. You act like a spoiled kid pouting because you aren't getting your way.

When the whiners, crybabies and drama queens finally do leave this forum it will be a lot more enjoyable around here.

Get bent. Your truefan opinions are garbage.

There are other forums that cater to the fans who are completely fine putting their money into the mediocracy jar.

Messier 02-25-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9435937)
Get bent. Your truefan opinions are garbage.

There are other forums that cater to the fans who are completely fine putting their money into the mediocracy jar.

Are threatening not to be a fan any more too?

splatbass 02-25-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9435937)
Get bent. Your truefan opinions are garbage.

There are other forums that cater to the fans who are completely fine putting their money into the mediocracy jar.

**** you. When are you guys really going to leave, instead of just threatening to like children? Ive been a fan of this team just about as long as anyone here, through good and a lot of bad, so just **** off asshole. Most of you weren't even born yet when I watched my first Chiefs game. So when htismage whines about how bad he has had it I don't feel much sympathy, since I have lived through far more bad Chiefs times than him.

You are a bunch of pussies that cry about everything. Man the **** up.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9435919)
Sorry, you are a crybaby drama queen. You constantly threaten to stop being a fan of the Chiefs if they do something, yet you are still here. You act like a spoiled kid pouting because you aren't getting your way.

When the whiners, crybabies and drama queens finally do leave this forum it will be a lot more enjoyable around here.

ROFL

I've been threatening for about 4 months to stop being a fan. The offseason hasn't played out yet.

I reserve the right to wait and see what they do before I make my final decision. I also reserve the right to bitch and moan every step of the way, just like I reserve the right to remind you that you are a ****ing moron.

You're a ****ing lemming. BAA BAA.

SHEEP.

Molitoth 02-25-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9435941)
Are threatening not to be a fan any more too?

threatening? I don't think me turning in my fan card "threatens" anyone.
Less than a handful of people on this forum would give a shit if I weren't around, and The Chiefs surely wouldn't care about what I do because they have tens of thousands of other people they can rip off and insult with their garbage product.

Turning in my fan card and rooting for whatever team Geno Smith goes to will only help my cause for gaining an interest in the NFL again. Rooting for the Chiefs year after year is nothing but a giant letdown.

But yes. I will root against this franchise until they get someone in here who wants to put together a winning team the way the majority of other NFL teams do; and that is putting an emphasis on drafting/developing/and starting a QB that can go out and win games, NOT bringing in other teams garbage players who are not good enough the way they have unsuccessfully tried the past 30 years.

htismaqe 02-25-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9435950)
**** you. When are you guys really going to leave, instead of just threatening to like children? Ive been a fan of this team just about as long as anyone here, through good and a lot of bad, so just **** off asshole. Most of you weren't even born yet when I watched my first Chiefs game. So when htismage whines about how bad he has had it I don't feel much sympathy, since I have lived through far more bad Chiefs times than him.

You are a bunch of pussies that cry about everything. Man the **** up.

You've lived through more bad times and you're still a True Fan.

So admirable being a dumb ****ing sheep. Lemming.

splatbass 02-25-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9435973)
You've lived through more bad times and you're still a True Fan.

So admirable being a dumb ****ing sheep. Lemming.

Well, if you want to be a quitter that gives up every time things don't go your way that is your right. I hope you aren't like that IRL though.

The truth, whether you want to see it or not, is that there is more than one way to build a champion team. You guys have painted yourself into a corner where the only acceptable way is to draft one specific player at #1. This is a recipe for disappointment.

As I said way back during the season, in fact it might have been to you specifically, even if we get the #1 there is no guarantee they will pick Geno Smith. And a bunch of people flamed me for saying it, but it was obvious. I haven't seen one single NFL coach, scout, GM, draft guru, etc. say that we should pick Geno Smith at #1, yet the collective CP brain trust has decided that is the only thing we can do. It is absurd.

Reid and Dorsey deserve a chance to build a team. In time we will know if they succeed or fail, but it is ridiculous to decide now they have failed because they didn't do what you wanted.

penbrook 02-25-2013 08:20 PM

Just heard B Albert on the radio. He wants to be a chief and doesnt make since to replace him with a guy whos not better than him plus he said he would love to see stephenson step up. Him and Allen just need to get smarter upstairs. He will not move to guard. Right now he honestly doesnt know if he will be back or not. He understands the regime has other things to focus on. Also he said he would take less money to be here. Its not about the money for him its about being the best left tackle in the NFL.

Rasputin 02-25-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9438238)
Well, if you want to be a quitter that gives up every time things don't go your way that is your right. I hope you aren't like that IRL though.

The truth, whether you want to see it or not, is that there is more than one way to build a champion team. You guys have painted yourself into a corner where the only acceptable way is to draft one specific player at #1. This is a recipe for disappointment.

As I said way back during the season, in fact it might have been to you specifically, even if we get the #1 there is no guarantee they will pick Geno Smith. And a bunch of people flamed me for saying it, but it was obvious. I haven't seen one single NFL coach, scout, GM, draft guru, etc. say that we should pick Geno Smith at #1, yet the collective CP brain trust has decided that is the only thing we can do. It is absurd.

Reid and Dorsey deserve a chance to build a team. In time we will know if they succeed or fail, but it is ridiculous to decide now they have failed because they didn't do what you wanted.

I can accept being disapointed in a player but I can not accept failure from not trying from a GM coach tandum that ends up doing the exact same ****ing thing that the last GM did that got him fired for us going 2-14.

Rasputin 02-25-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9438246)
Just heard B Albert on the radio. He wants to be a chief and doesnt make since to replace him with a guy whos not better than him plus he said he would love to see stephenson step up. Him and Allen just need to get smarter upstairs. He will not move to guard. Right now he honestly doesnt know if he will be back or not. He understands the regime has other things to focus on. Also he said he would take less money to be here. Its not about the money for him its about being the best left tackle in the NFL.

I really hope we keep Brandon Albert and he stays LT. Not his fault we had shitty QB for the last four years.

splatbass 02-25-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9438257)
I can accept being disapointed in a player but I can not accept failure from not trying from a GM coach tandum that ends up doing the exact same ****ing thing that the last GM did that got him fired for us going 2-14.

They are trying. The fact that they are doing it different than you want doesn't mean they aren't trying. They deserve a chance. It is absurd to judge them now. Both Reid and Dorsey have been successful in the NFL. If they fail they fail, but that certainly isn't a given right now despite what you think.

As I said, there is more than one way to build a championship team. And if they win a SB I don't give a flying **** where they got their QB. The Lombardi trophy is the same whether you win it with Tom Brady or Trent Dilfer.

DaneMcCloud 03-11-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426862)
Free agency has to start before trades can happen.

Wrong again

Mr_Tomahawk 03-12-2013 05:41 AM

Today we are introduced to our new starting QB. :-(

Noodle arm 2.0

King_Chief_Fan 03-12-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9438257)
I can accept being disapointed in a player but I can not accept failure from not trying from a GM coach tandum that ends up doing the exact same ****ing thing that the last GM did that got him fired for us going 2-14.

you have the cart in front of the horse

Wallcrawler 03-12-2013 06:10 AM

Ahhhh. Cant you see it already? Its 3rd and 11, and the playcall is a 5 yard slant, out/in, or the super sneaky bubble screen?

I cant wait.

Lex Luthor 03-12-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9435970)

Turning in my fan card and rooting for whatever team Geno Smith goes to will only help my cause for gaining an interest in the NFL again. Rooting for the Chiefs year after year is nothing but a giant letdown.

If Geno Smith gets drafted by the Raiders and you start rooting for the Raiders, that's about the biggest douche move you can make. Enjoy being a groupie, because no fan would do that.

BigMeatballDave 03-12-2013 06:33 AM

I'm still not a fan of this trade. Mostly because of what we gave up.

I think Reid and Dorsey's thought process is this team has some talent and are taking a shot at the win now approach.

Or, maybe they just flat do not like any QB in this class.

I'm tried of being pissed off about it. I'm just gonna sit back and watch. I'm assuming it's going to fail so the only way is up. :)

BigCatDaddy 03-12-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9487734)
If Geno Smith gets drafted by the Raiders and you start rooting for the Raiders, that's about the biggest douche move you can make. Enjoy being a groupie, because no fan would do that.

Your choice to be a fan!

ceebz 03-12-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9487734)
If Geno Smith gets drafted by the Raiders and you start rooting for the Raiders, that's about the biggest douche move you can make. Enjoy being a groupie, because no fan would do that.

Oh shut the **** up. If Smith goes to the Raiders, I hope he gives the Chiefs a beat down every year when he comes to Arrowhead. Then maybe this organization and its dipshit fans in denial, will finally figure it out.

Lex Luthor 03-12-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9487773)
Oh shut the **** up. If Smith goes to the Raiders, I hope he gives the Chiefs a beat down every year when he comes to Arrowhead. Then maybe this organization and its dipshit fans in denial, will finally figure it out.

Look dumbass, I want the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith. But I'm not going to be a whiny little bitch about it if they don't. If you want to be a whiny little bitch and you want to go root for the Raiders, be my guest. But don't think that you won't get called out for having Geno's cock in your mouth.

And if Alex Smith plays well and the Chiefs go deep in the playoffs, you'll need to just shut the **** up and stop being a bandwagon fan.

ceebz 03-12-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9487879)
Look dumbass, I want the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith. But I'm not going to be a whiny little bitch about it if they don't. If you want to be a whiny little bitch and you want to go root for the Raiders, be my guest. But don't think that you won't get called out for having Geno's cock in your mouth.

And if Alex Smith plays well and the Chiefs go deep in the playoffs, you'll need to just shut the **** up and stop being a bandwagon fan.

Yes, the Chiefs will go deep in the playoffs with Alex ****ing Smith. LMAO

****ing dipshit fans in denial.

Lex Luthor 03-12-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9487936)
Yes, the Chiefs will go deep in the playoffs with Alex ****ing Smith. LMAO

****ing dipshit fans in denial.

You're right. No team has ever gone deep in the playoffs with Alex Smith. It can't be done. :spock:

BigCatDaddy 03-12-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9487950)
You're right. No team has ever gone deep in the playoffs with Alex Smith. It can't be done. :spock:

Teams have went to a SB with Dilfer, Johnson, and Grossman. It can be done, but highly unlikely. You need to change your user name back to 300 bowler. It's more fitting.

Alex Smith 4Ever 03-12-2013 11:05 AM

Why is it taking so long?

The Franchise 03-12-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 9488367)
Why is it taking so long?

4 PM EST.

Molitoth 03-12-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9487734)
If Geno Smith gets drafted by the Raiders and you start rooting for the Raiders, that's about the biggest douche move you can make. Enjoy being a groupie, because no fan would do that.

baaaahhhh baaaahhhh
sheep.

Keep giving The Chiefs your money.

Sorter 03-12-2013 11:14 AM

What's wrong with groupies? Don't they get to sleep with the hot musicians?

It'd be a pretty sweet deal to be a prime Britney/Christina, Taylor Swift, and Katy Perry groupie.

Bowser 03-12-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9488414)
What's wrong with groupies? Don't they get to sleep with the hot musicians?

It'd be a pretty sweet deal to be a prime Britney/Christina, Taylor Swift, and Katy Perry groupie.

This brings up an interesting question -

Does Katy Perry have her stage hands bring the hot guys back to her dressing room, then she picks five of the best to bukkake her?

Rausch 03-12-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9488384)
4 PM EST.

I know.

WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG1?!!?!?:cuss:

ceebz 03-12-2013 12:12 PM

Because the rumors haven't changed, and we've heard nothing new, I would guess the terms of the trade are what we heard from the beginning.

Mav 03-12-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9487979)
Teams have went to a SB with Dilfer, Johnson, and Grossman. It can be done, but highly unlikely. You need to change your user name back to 300 bowler. It's more fitting.

I have a legitimate question.

If all you really need is an elite qb, then why did an above average, but not great qb win the super bowl this last year?

Dont get me wrong, Alex Smith is a worse qb than Joe Flacco, I would also go on a limb and state that Colin Kaepernick is a better qb than Joe Flacco. WHy did the ravens win?

Mav 03-12-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 9488592)
Because the rumors haven't changed, and we've heard nothing new, I would guess the terms of the trade are what we heard from the beginning.

They were never rumors. You got the facts. People just want to live in denial.

Its going to be a second, and a conditional......

Period.

BigCatDaddy 03-12-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9488600)
I have a legitimate question.

If all you really need is an elite qb, then why did an above average, but not great qb win the super bowl this last year?

Dont get me wrong, Alex Smith is a worse qb than Joe Flacco, I would also go on a limb and state that Colin Kaepernick is a better qb than Joe Flacco. WHy did the ravens win?

Because he played like an elite QB in the playoffs? Same as Eli Manning. I'd say if you are making 20 million/season at QB you are pretty damn close to elite.

Besides.. nobody is saying that's ALL that it takes, but it can make up for a lot of short comings in other areas. With the 9ers Alex Smith WAS the short coming.

Mav 03-12-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9488659)
Because he played like an elite QB in the playoffs? Same as Eli Manning. I'd say if you are making 20 million/season at QB you are pretty damn close to elite.

Besides.. nobody is saying that's ALL that it takes, but it can make up for a lot of short comings in other areas. With the 9ers Alex Smith WAS the short coming.

It can for sure. But I think at the end of the day, the teams with the best defense, beat the teams with the greatest offenses. Your point is excellent by the way. Rep for the post.

BigCatDaddy 03-12-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9488671)
It can for sure. But I think at the end of the day, the teams with the best defense, beat the teams with the greatest offenses. Your point is excellent by the way. Rep for the post.

The formula is typically Franchise QB + Great Pass Rush = Success


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