Where is your proof that's not just a made up story? Were you there? How do you know it's not propaganda?
What's your definition of perception is reality?
People make fun of people for believing in God by faith and yet right here,right now,the only thing you have to believe the article isn't completely made up,is faith.

This thread doesn't make me feel better about anything.

That's what pessimist/optimist thread is for..sort of

Welp, i learned that my hands are larger than average, and makes me feel pretty good. I called my wife and told her, "You know what they say about guys with larger than avg hands, right? You lucky girl...."

Yup.

They gotta buy big gloves...

OOOOOOOH, SNAP!!

Check and mate, smellypitts just won at the internets!!

Can you present proof that skyscrapers aren't sentient beings?

sorry dude, I just backed you into an intellectual wall now.
I realize you may need to ponder that.

I'm sure you think you did. I hope one day you figure out why you haven't.

sorry,thats not correct nor right.
I know I did. Every self proclaimed intellectual in the world knows I did.

So where are we at on the whole "vaccines cause autism" thing?

Yea

How do we know that vaccines are really vaccines?

How do we know that autism is really autism?

perfect example of fabricated propaganda.

which ever side is right,if either side is right,the other side is screwed and government wins either way.
CNN tells its followers-theres nothing wrong,get your vaccines.
Fox tells its followers- dont do it,its bad.
if its ok,half the population is screwed. If its not,the other half is screwed.
Government accomplished fear, no matter which answer is correct.

Actually, I was joking. Everyone knows that vaccines are really the government's way of slowly establishing mind control.

Never misuse that word again.

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Population control, actually, if you knew what you were talking about. Vaccines cause cancer. It's the government's way of keeping the population in check. When they release "contrails" in the atmosphere the toxins rain down over the city. When those toxins combine with those who've been vaccinated: BAM. Cancer.

ROFL yep,you are confused and dont know what to think or say.

This is exactly the reason why all of those holistic doctors were killed by the government. They found herbal cures to cancer which cost next to nothing so the government had them killed to protect all the drug companies profits. At least that is what one facebook friend told me.

To be fair, it was pretty dumb for them all to stand in the middle of that field in Pennsylvania on 9/11.

Man, this thread has gotten good.

I'm almost out of popcorn...

CNN??

A woman on my FB unfriended me because she was promoting that vaccine causes autism BS & I posted that video. ROFL

She did you a favor.

Because they aren't credible accusations.

1 the HGH accuser recanted his entire story about Manning and violated US HIPPA regulations by publically talking about a patient's health records without consent...aka Manning's wife

2 20 years ago a woman made a compliant against seeing Manning's ass in a training room. Her accusation never actually included any physical contact and by all accounts this women is a sue hound that's broke and as vulgar as they come.

3 Other teams do get disciplined all the time so I am not sure what you're problem is. The Pats got caught cheating on the field and they got sanctioned for it. No big deal.

The Patriots got 'busted' doing something all teams were/are guilty of (both Spygate AND Deflategate) - the fact that they are known to have their opponents' locker rooms bugged and have had access to their opponents' play books would be far more disturbing if the whole thing wasn't entertainment anyway...

Same with the Saints - Marty ran a 'bounty' every Raider week : he paid any player fines, which qualifies. All teams did it. Or do it. Don't they all play for money...anyway?? How does an extra pool make anything more insidious??

What DIDN'T get talked about were all the missing pain pills from the Saints training facility, and how Sean Payton and Gregg Williams were both involved in THAT - thousands of missing Vicodin and Morphine pills. The FBI was going to get involved, it was getting ugly until the NFL dropped 'Bountygate' and disciplined the main culprits behind the missing pills. And Jonathon Vilma, for some reason. I guess to make it look legit, but he got screwed...

You're so confused you didn't understand the nature of my question.Nothing you said addressed it.


Pats got caught cheating? No,you read a story that they got caught cheating.
Got sanctioned for it? No,yyou read a story they got caught and then sactioned but you never saw any fine paid and its easy to act out not getting a draft pick or what ever else happened.
You are simply filling in blanks with your own imagination the same way you do when watch a movie or read a book.

:hmmm:

Does it make you think about things you don't want to think about??

It's got to be better than the 'masterbating to Fat Andy eating augratin potatoes' thread, so there's that??

There are rebuttals for every post that believes nfl games are fixed except mine. Even Cosmo didn't have a response for the mysterious line movement in the afc champ game

They are like little kids still holding out hope that Hogan Warrior match years ago is legit. It's sad.

Was that the one where hogan kicked out after the 3 count?

Can we just go ahead and merge this with crazy pete's 9/11 thread? Kind of an encyclopedia of sorts.

85% of the public was on New England. NE line at 5 dimes started at -3 and went to -2.5.

How in god's name is this possible?

Completely separate issue

I had Bin Laden -3,000. So close.

So,so wrong,man

Strange enough...it was your posts on the subject that caused me to look at things a bit differently. Once I started to pay attention to things, it became a real eye opener. It's a single multi billion dollar entity with no end in site to the greed. The amount of money bet on these games is too much to not have an influence over results. Of course they want things manipulated a certain way.

FYP

It was in Sat Night Main event, winter 1988

Ref Earl Hebner was kidnapped prematch and replaced by his evil twin 'Evil' Dave Hebner, who was paid off by Ted DiBiase to throw the match for Andre the Giant.

Hogan kicked put at 2 1/2, 'Evil' Dave counted to 3, Andre was awarded the title...and promptly sold it to DiBiase. At this point, Earl Hebner comes out of the locker room, so there's 2 Hebners and Hogan thought DiBiase paid someone to get plastic surgery.

Yes, I remember watching that with my dad.

Absolutely.

With that much money, only a fool would think otherwise.

Then you read about the origins and history of the league...and it all ties in together. These aren't coincidences.

Then you've got players who, damn near say the league is rigged while insinuating as much (or Bubba Smith, who outright claimed that SB III was rigged) and it all ties in. Vegas, the lines, mob ties, TV...it's manipulated so many ways, for many interests, who all have a hand in the pie.

Winning the Super Bowl is supposed to be this life long epic accomplished....ignores team mates to hug pizza mogul then stands there with dopey look on face promoting Budweiser.

Just securing the legacy and making a few bucks.

ok, I dont exactly get this? I understand 85% betting on one side.. I understand what the team favored is.. I understand -3 and -2.5.

I dont understand the significance of the half point -minus- move. How is that strange?

Bad thing is pizza and beer usually is shared with friends and family. This cockbite buys into the franchise and is still a ****ing loser.

I eat better pizza and drink better beer, so **** him anyway. 5head Corky looking Frankenmanning mother****er.

9:11(just to see Jordans shot)...9:19 (he's played in loud arena's for a long while,but he throws the ball to a white jersey as though he's confused? really?)
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he played stupid 2 or three times like he didnt know how he's supposed to execute the flubbed time out.

Linesmakers of books usually try to balance the action if one side is bet heavily. When you see that 85% of the public is on one side (say NE at -3), the next move is to bump the NE line up to at least -4 so bettors will put money on the other side (Denver) to balance the action. In this case the line either stayed the same or went down to -2.5, causing even MORE people to bet NE.

Is it fixed? I don't know, but something is fishy.

Where does one find out how much money is placed on either side of a bet?

I remember an MU/KU game from 2010/2011, MU was up by like 20 some points and the refs just handed the game to KU - literally.

you know it.

Yes...It's why you just saw someone trying to link this topic to a 9/11 thread. They are programmed to default to a stereotype and dont even know why. There is someone that has posted "loon" like 4 times so far. It's frightening how effective/easy it is to generate media-driven "mob-think"...while creating the illusion that their opinion is their own.

They also set up mock internet personas...complete with fake, official-looking credentials to discredit people who question propaganda. It's how they steer the herd away from independent thought.

Absolutely. 100%

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Riiiiiiiiiiight.

That's a Red Herring style tactic of reducing a group of unrelated instances into one. Its a method of stereotyping/discrediting via association.

Apple has proprietary encryption...supposedly designed to do exactly what it's doing. I also wouldn't count out this whole I-phone drama as being a farce. That's how propaganda works... Wouldn't it be more beneficial to lead the public into believing their phones are secure from government scrutiny?

No, actually Apple has AES encryption which was created by the ****ing US government. Do you have any idea where AES encryption originates?

There's a reason why I put Dartgod on ignore.

The govt?

That was going to be my guess too, just based on the clue in Fish's post.

This is like Jeopardy. I like Jeopardy.

AES became effective as a federal government standard on May 26, 2002 after approval by the Secretary of Commerce. AES is included in the ISO/IEC 18033-3 standard. AES is available in many different encryption packages, and is the first publicly accessible and open[vague] cipher approved by the National Security Agency (NSA) for top secret information when used in an NSA approved cryptographic module

You did notice I used the word "supposedly" to preface that? I watch any sensationalist story-lines with skepticism. What is the set-up/payoff...their ulterior motive?

Government, in it's current incarnation, is set-up to be deceptive...it still amazes me that people believe their media-driven narratives. You dont have agency's like CIA, FBI and the NSA to tell people the truth....you dont have classified documents to prevent citizens from knowing what they are doing. It's designed to withhold information.

:hmmm:

Operation Northwoods is rolling along...

Yes. The .gov. But that doesn't mean they have a universal key or anything like that. That's not how encryption works.

Im just being a smart ass.

You are talking to some dumb ****ers here.

Or IS he??

:hmmm:

speaking of phones how does the nfl have sideline communication problems with equipment designed by fricking NASA?

I'm a professional technician. With wireless communication...each headset...or a group of headsets are assigned to a specific frequency. If you have a set of 50 different headsets...there is a chart showing what is available to program. This is done as prevention...to keep from "stepping on" another's communication channel...every technician has a list. It wouldn't be hard to program interference...and like wise, it wouldn't be hard to switch channels if problems start. All you need is the list of what headsets are going where....

When I hear about problems...I just laugh. It would easy to do...if you have someone willing to give away the frequency assignments of your opponent.

A fellow tech did a private Koch brothers meeting...said they had a system where the frequencies were changing every few seconds. Obviously, they didnt want anyone to know what they were talking about...

He missed. Your point? Sometimes a miss is just a miss.

Yup, a coincidence is far more likely than a complicated secret plot.

Rabblerouser and smellypitts got a lot of vaccines, what do you think?

Because he's right?

Not when it's 200 coincidences you dolt!
You cant even comprehend what I asked.

The point is there is no such thing as a coincidence. Made for tv stuff like that doesn't keep happening by chance over and over.
It's only complicated when left up to your individual comprehension.
It's not hard for an army of billionaires. I'm pointing out the most obvious stuff and you're still confused?

As a technician, I've been privy to a lot of big Pharma meetings...some in their actual "Gattica style" headquarters. It's creepy... had to sign a confidentiality agreement. The security is close to military level.

I wouldn't touch the trash they peddle...they simply look at sick people as "consumers". They have no monetary motive in curing...just finding a new audience for their product. I hate doing those shows...

No, it's all true. Katy Perry is JonBenet Ramsey and Left Shark was trying to tell us all at that Super Bowl halftime show. The Illuminati planned it all out:

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it cant be sometimes. It was either premeditated or it wasnt.
until you can prove to me what he was thinking and his objective...

what you call a miss, may have actually been his objective.

and since we know these guys can hit it from 60 yrds blindfolded and way wide of the hash-mark in exhibitions and he was good all day from longer distances.
..i'm not dumb enough to believe that was an accident.

I didnt ask you just about that gif. I asked you to confront my last 2 long post with the descriptions of what you want to call coincidences.

but the fact is you cant,you wont,you dont know how to.
in your world everything just somehow,kinda,sorta happens.

its amazing how those things just happen to be at the right times,on tv... nothing else in your real life compares to that but somehow on tv it makes sense to you?

if Blair Walsh's kick were real and teams actually cared about winning or losing he would have been let go that night or the next morning. Its that simple. They won that game,its right there.The fans knew it,they felt it,there was no other outcome but a win possible....but no...
If the game were real,he was solely responsible for that loss.
thats how the real world works if you are supposed to be the best jocks fighting for the biggest prize as though it actually mattered.

its just as stupid and lame to believe the Seahawks were in that game failing on 4 fourth downs.Thats just efing childish to believe that.