4.2 vs 4.5 :hmmm: Shazier no doubt fast and quick but he ain't no "hercules water bug". Yeah, this guy has great football eyes:rolleyes: All Andy has to do is set Shazier up by having him somewhat winded covering particular plays and then isolate a TH play right on him after he gets winded and then will see how well he covers him:rolleyes:

I have thought about that. Shazier is fast. He may not shut Hill down, but I bet he blows up a couple of plays for him.

Good play calling will prevent that.:thumb:

If Hill starts eating their lunch, you can bet they will try to take him out literally.

You cheered on a QB who sexually assaulted a woman in college, hired a legal team to smear her, and got away without ever having to answer a single ****ing question from a judge. He sexually assaulted the woman, didn't take responsibility for his actions, and got away with it. I'll bet fewer than 1% of Donk fans who cheered for him the past 4 years even knew he did that shit.

However, you probably knew about it and cheered for him anyway without even hesitating to think if it was right.

Why then ownership will have more continuity with the product on the field

Enough for me.



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I sincerely hope they line up a linebacker on Hill all game. That would make it the most fun Chiefs game ever.

ESPN is on it now.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...fs-tyreek-hill

I am delighted to have Tyreek Hill on our team. He's going to be a great player and a great citizen.

Steelers have a rapist at qb.

That was a good, rather long, read while being fair to both sides. The picture they used of Hill isn't exactly flattering for his case.

Here's a good snippett:

"ON DEC. 26, a few days after Hill made his first Pro Bowl as a return specialist, ProFootballTalk cited a source claiming that most NFL teams had taken him off their draft boards because of his record. That could be true, but Gilliland told me that representatives from all 32 teams visited his campus during Hill's year at West Alabama. Twenty of them showed up at his pro day, where they watched him run the 40-yard dash in 4.24 seconds.

Although NFL evaluators like to sprinkle their scouting reports with fleeting references to character issues, it's undeniable that such concerns are inversely correlated with talent. It's why a star like Hardy found his way into the Cowboys' locker room after his sins were exposed but a third-stringer who makes a misstep will get tossed before most fans learn his name. In the NFL, talent is currency; it buys tolerance and, in some cases, immunity. And Hill? He has a special talent. Whenever he touches the ball, the field crackles with electricity; he doesn't turn corners so much as he bounces around them, bending like a ray of light. He scored 12 touchdowns this season, tying the Chiefs' rookie record, and made the AP All-Pro team as a unanimous choice.

All of which is to say: He's not going anywhere...

Over the past two months, I've listened to my colleagues and peers struggle to talk about Hill. It feels wrong to praise him for his gifts while ignoring his flaws, but it also feels strange to intermingle talk of jet sweeps and screens with casual references to domestic violence. I co-host a fantasy football show, and I can't imagine working the subject into our usual conversation.

"Tyreek Hill is now averaging double-digit points on a weekly basis, making him a great flex option. And by the way: Two years ago, he pleaded guilty to domestic abuse by strangulation."

That doesn't seem right, or fair. But it would be equally unfair to wipe Hill's misdeeds from his record -- to pretend he can outrun his demons as swiftly as he shoots across our television screens. Hill's past is a permanent part of his story, and it should be mentioned every time his life and character are discussed. His efforts to redeem himself are also part of that story. Someday, they could become the most important part...

...(Ray)Rice sees Hill's case as an opportunity to shine more light on the issue. "Why not embrace the conversation and understand what happened here?"

It's a lofty challenge, and one that I suspect we -- Hill's teammates, his coaches, the media, fans -- will struggle to meet on most occasions. As his star rises, we'll try to wedge his rehabilitation into a narrative about his success on the field, as though yards after catch are a metric of personal growth. We'll minimize his crime by calling it "an incident," then "off-the-field trouble," then, as we do with stars such as Ben Roethlisberger, nothing at all. We'll say, as ESPN's own Brent Musberger did about Mixon during the Sugar Bowl, that we're rooting for him (without mentioning his victim). We'll get it wrong so many times.

But every now and then, we'll get it right, and when we do, it'll matter. Thousands of stories like Tyreek Hill's unfold every day, and they're never discussed on a national stage. But on a Sunday night in November, that's exactly what happened. For 30 seconds, Cris Collinsworth talked about domestic violence and made millions of people uncomfortable. And when the game resumed, that feeling remained."

It is Wednesday, nothing to report on so drag something out of the past up. Get used to it.

No shit I was thinking that too. Please attempt this, please.

The thing that strikes me about Hill.....is that he always looks excited to touch the ball. It's almost like he's a kid who just started playing football and is elated every time he gets a chance to carry it.

Awkward

It chokes me up just thinking about how excited he seems in the games.

EVERY

****ING

WEEK

Can you imagine how it'll be with the Chiefs make it to the SB?

Should it just be ignored?

According to a Stillwater Police Department arrest report, his girlfriend at the time, Crystal Espinal, showed up in an emergency room with cuts and bruises on her face and neck. (The officer who filed the report noted that her lip was busted, that she was wincing with pain and that the mark under her eye was turning purple as she spoke.) Espinal, who was eight weeks pregnant at the time, said Hill had grabbed her neck with his hands, pinned her against the wall and then thrown her to the ground like a "rag doll." She told an officer that Hill had picked her up by her hair and put her in a headlock. After Espinal had screamed "I can't breathe" several times, she alleged, he released her, then sat on top of her, punching her in the stomach.

:D

It's not ignored. It's very, very well documented. It's been written about ad nauseum.

Everyone in KC knows about it. Most people who've tuned into a nationally televised Chiefs game knows about it. SI, ESPN, NFLN, Profootball talk, USA Today and countless blogs and forums have all written about it.

You want to know what the cool thing about that will be? Send Hill on a go route with Shazier in man to man with help over the top on Hill and let Kelce rip their guts out on the underneath crosser. When the Steelers get sick of that shit and drop Shazier down on Kelce, hit them with Hill on a nice little wheel route out of the backfield with Harrison trying to cover him.

You always hear about how people clench up in anticipation when such-and-such player touches the ball. Tyreek is definitely that guy. And I love hi enthusiasm. He was going nuts on the sideline in San Diego after a big defensive play. Kid loves the game.

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Outside of Chiefs circles it wasn't a big story to Joe casual NFL fan. They made it to #2 seed, now you get national news so now they write big articles. You know how it works.

I genuinely feel bad for the guy. The mistake he made was horrendous but for espn to run a story on it on the front page this week is sickening.


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He's the real victim here right?

Want to know the best way not to have your name in articles about beating pregnant women?

Outside the Lines will be doing a report everyday.



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Hire Von Miller to do it instead?

Aqib Talib is going to be upset that you didn't think of him first. Probably.

:D Von abuses women via his performance as a dance partner

I had no idea until I read the story that he repeatedly punched his PREGNANT girlfriend in the stomach as part of the assault.

Stay classy Chiefs...

Go **** yourselves, donk fans

You scumsucking pricks have more violent, nightclub shooting, abusive, cheapshotting pieces of shit on your team than anyone since the 70s Raiders

Now go sit your fat asses down on the couch and watch the AFCW Champions play some football

So is he just going to be shamed for the rest of his career? I'm legitimately curious what more could be done on his part to help complete strangers move on from a situation that both him and the victim have.

Has the victim moved on? I've read here that he's back with his baby mama, but i don't recall ever reading a publication that states that.

He's a pretty big piece of shit, period. You do something like this you deserve for it to follow you around.

Whacha' you talking' bout Willis?
http://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img...%2D9.jpg&w=570

I'm talkin bout creepy ass pricks like Derek Wolfe telling Philip Rivers he wants to eat his kids

Thats some weird, lowball shit

Shakes head. What a bunch of upstanding honorable Boy Scouts we have in here. Yes . His actions were heinous. But until he repeats said behavior he ho am I to judge.


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It will go away eventually. I remember when the world ****ing hated Michael Vick and everything he stood for when he returned to football even though he already paid the consequences in the eyes of the law.

As Tyreek Hill gains popularity and fame, he'll need to up the ante and donate more of his time and effort to helping domestic abuse charities if he wants this to blow away faster.

It eventually will provided he keeps his nose totally clean.

Ah ok so if he only does it once no biggie, but twice, that's unacceptable. The **** didn't run a red light or get in a bar fight. He violently assaulted a pregnant woman. Not much worse than that, he will wear that scarlet "POS" letter for a long time and rightfully so.

Okay, and that's your right. Look as a vet who has deployed I've seen awfully heinous shit. I also cringed seeing Ray Rice knock his wife out. I witnessed my mother beat, I also saw my father so sick with guilt and shame that I knew he'd never do it again. It's egregious. It's horrendous, but I refuse to believe that 1 mistake makes a man. Forgive me. God knows I have my flaws.


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you can only hope one learns from his mistakes no matter how big the **** up. Any ways, i need this little fast ****er to do some magic this weekend! lol

I heard TyReek was planning to join ISIS if he didn't get drafted.



















****ing dumbass people.

I think Marcellus quoted something she tweeted saying she had.

Yeah I was going to try to find that, glad someone else saw that so I know I didn't imagine it.

It must be in a different thread.

I.can't search it on my phone

Post #860.

The last line in the article posted about the incident.

Thanks

Join? I thought he was a full fledged member.



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The Wall Street Journal did a nice article on Tyreek yesterday: http://www.wsj.com/articles/there-ha...ars-1484090786

It ends with this paragraph if you want the gist:

Hill’s recent involvement in his team’s offense heading into Sunday’s playoff game against the Steelers is unheard of since the league expanded to 16 games in 1978. In fact, only three players besides Metcalf have scored in these multitude of ways while being an integral a part in their team’s offense—Gale Sayers (1965, 1967), Ollie Matson (1954) and Buddy Young (1947). And this company suggests that Chiefs’ fans have just gotten of taste of what’s to come: Sayers and Matson are enshrined in Canton.

Huh? So you must not cheer for Talib or Von then, right????

They've beaten, strangled, and punched defenseless pregnant women in the stomach repeatedly? That's news to me.

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No. Kent Babb, of all people, wrote an article that appeared in the Washington Post today.

Not only are they not together, Hill has never met his son and despite his promise to help financially, he hasn't provided a single penny.

She filed for Child Support of about $1,400 per month, along with $106 dollars in lieu of health insurance, in an Oklahoma court last month. The judgement is pending.

The Chiefs denied a request to speak to Hill for the article.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.5ac41dadc4a4

He also indicated that, though the court had not ordered it, he was providing financial assistance to his ex-girlfriend and their now-18-month-old son.

But Oklahoma court documents show that this past September Hill’s ex-girlfriend sued Hill for financial support. In December a new filing outlined the ex-girlfriend’s demands for $1,382 per month in child support and medical costs.

Hill has not formally responded, records show, and the case is still pending. Attempts to reach attorneys for Hill and his ex-girlfriend were unsuccessful.

Just pay the ****ing money, Reek. Even on a 5th round rookie salary you're gonna be fine.

Here's Babb's article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.89f673c93c9f

Was there another article that said he hadn't met his son and hadn't paid a penny in support? Honest question. If it was in the Babb article I missed it.

He'll earn a minimum of $470k his rookie season, which doesn't include the bonuses issued this offseason for performance incentives.

I don't think the guy has learned a ****ing thing and he's still a piece of shit human being.

Why would a man repeatedly punch a woman in the stomach who he knows is pregnant with his child?

Because he wants that child dead. That's why. Fast forward two years later and he still hasn't so much as seen his child and is refusing to support it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.5ac41dadc4a4

He also indicated that, though the court had not ordered it, he was providing financial assistance to his ex-girlfriend and their now-18-month-old son.

But Oklahoma court documents show that this past September Hill’s ex-girlfriend sued Hill for financial support. In December a new filing outlined the ex-girlfriend’s demands for $1,382 per month in child support and medical costs.

Hill has not formally responded, records show, and the case is still pending. Attempts to reach attorneys for Hill and his ex-girlfriend were unsuccessful.
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There's absolutely no reason to go to court for $1,382 dollars in child support if someone is already contributing.

Link?

That's complete speculation and most likely, incorrect.

If he wanted to kill the child, he could have killed the mother.

You're a dumbass, regardless of the topic.

I don't know that that's true. It could be a question of how much. It could be how that money is paid. It could be to ensure that he doesn't have the option to decide to stop paying.

This also doesn't address the assertion that he has never seen his son.

Not saying the worst isn't true. Just not seeing the evidence.

Where does it say he isn't paying?


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Okay, you're talking out of your ****ing ass. Do some homework, Bitch!

Neg rep for being a ****ing lowlife asshole.

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In September, Hill’s victim filed a paternity suit in Payne County, Okla. According to the record, though, “both parties openly acknowledge paternity.”

She also requested to maintain custody of the child, a boy who turned one in July.

“Respondent (Hill) has not ever seen the minor child,” according to the documents filed four months ago. “Any visitation with the minor child by Respondent should be supervised until such time as he can establish a relationship with the child and his domestic violence probation is complete.”

Did it say he hasn't seen his son in there? I didn't see it?

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Ah ok, got it

There are multiple articles in multiple publications that have appeared online today, most likely because Hill will be in the spotlight on Sunday.

Yeah and the time to sue for child support would be in September when he started getting game checks. Don't have the facts though but I hope he get's it right.

****ing lowlife asshole? Jesus you're a miserable prick.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Man, what a shit storm. Sounds like a ****ing trashy person

OH YES IT DID YOU ****ING LOWLIFE ASSHOLE.

Learn to Google before stating that you're "not seeing it".

Dumb****.

THERE ARE TYREEK ARTICLES OUT THERE YOU HAVEN'T READ!?!?! WHAT A FCUKING PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE!!!

I read three articles on Tyreek today and none of them said what you were asserting. I asked for what info you had. You blew the **** up. GFY.

Of course the week of the playoff game all this shit comes out.

Granted, I don't know anything about child support or these situations but

As I've said all along, the guy is a piece of human garbage.

His responses in OTA's and TC were stupid and unacceptable and now, we learn that the mother****er hasn't ever met his son and that the ex-girlfriend has gone to court to ask for child support.

And holy hell, she's asking for $1,400 dollars per month, which is less than $17,000 dollars per year while the asshole is earning $470k this season alone with the Chiefs.

He's a major piece of waste.

Dane does, but don't ask him.

That's because you're ****ing stupid and unable to read.

Go get my car, bitch!