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Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 08:17 PM

Foles may not be much, but he doesn't play like a bitch.

Good on him.

SAUTO 01-25-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12709216)
I don't think he saw Hill. He stares at Maclin at the snap...

He's a ****ing claythan then.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 08:23 PM

Clay, what did you do to piss off SAUTO so goddamned much?!?

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12709214)
Nick Foles would have definitely made that throw.

You are the most pathetic human being that I've ever encountered in my entire life.

You have zero shame, zero conscience and zero life.

Un. ****ing. Real.

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709236)
Clay, what did you do to piss off SAUTO so goddamned much?!?

Maybe multiple bannings for acting like a ****?

But that's something you couldn't possibly understand.

Easy 6 01-25-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12709126)
This is how MEN play the position of NFL quarterback with a free rusher coming at them.

http://i.imgur.com/4lzzbdl.gif

Smiff would've went fetal right there instead of taking the shot, you ALL know its true

The Franchise 01-25-2017 08:54 PM

What the hell was 55 doing there? Dude could have hit Brady but he just jumped to the side.

Hammock Parties 01-25-2017 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709221)
Foles may not be much, but he doesn't play like a bitch.

Good on him.

What does Tyreek Hill look like?

H-h-he's fast....

Go on!

He's short!

DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH?

What?

[Shoots Alex in the shoulder]DOES...HE...LOOK...LIKE A BITCH!?

No!

Then why you tryin' to **** him like a bitch, Alex?

I didn't!

Yes, you did. Yes you did, Alex! You tried to **** him. And Tyreek Hill don't like to be ****ed by anyone but Mrs. Hill.

You read your playbook, Alex?

Yes!

Go get it.

Easy 6 01-25-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12709278)
What the hell was 55 doing there? Dude could have hit Brady but he just jumped to the side.

The finely tuned pro athletes reflexes just told him to steer clear of Brady, give him room to breathe

But wait what? WHY did he lay out in front of the QB instead of laying a perfectly legal hit?

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12709278)
What the hell was 55 doing there? Dude could have hit Brady but he just jumped to the side.

Probably didn't want to receive a fine

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709258)
Maybe multiple bannings for acting like a ****?

But that's something you couldn't possibly understand.

Oh **** right off with that horse shit; I don't see SAUTO being as thin-skinned as you are painting him. Clay obviously did something very specific, and pertaining to SAUTO to get him as fired-up as he is.
People get banned for dumb shit left and right, and get banned on whims as well at this board.
My "case" went before the Mod board long ago. If you have a problem with it, give Bwana a PM.

Jackass.

SAUTO 01-25-2017 09:13 PM

I'm not thin skinned, I've laid my case it multiple times.

It's legit

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709311)
Oh **** right off with that horse shit; I don't see SAUTO being as thin-skinned as you are painting him. Clay obviously did something very specific, and pertaining to SAUTO to get him as fired-up as he is.
People get banned for dumb shit left and right, and get banned on whims as well at this board.
My "case" went before the Mod board long ago. If you have a problem with it, give Bwana a PM.

Jackass.

Is it true that Clay's dick tastes like shit?

Nickhead 01-25-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709320)
Is it true that Clay's dick tastes like shit?

you too embarrassed to ask him yourself. did last night go a little further than you anticipated? ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709320)
Is it true that Clay's dick tastes like shit?

I don't know; does Alex's "franchise" queen-goo taste like mediocrity?

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709362)
does Alex's "franchise" queen-goo taste like mediocrity?

4 straight winning seasons, 3 playoff games, one playoff win and 4 straight winning seasons in the NFL, isn't "mediocre".

You're a worthless troglodyte.

Regardless of 8 user names and bannings and your obvious Claynus infatuation.

Hammock Parties 01-25-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709362)
does Alex's "franchise" queen-goo taste like mediocrity?

Whoa!!! I just got an incredible mental image:

Alex Smith as the Alien Queen, shitting out homers, field goals and true fans nonstop, until Big Ben comes along with a flamethrower and burns it all to a crisp.

Photoshop time!

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12709316)
I'm not thin skinned, I've laid my case it multiple times.

It's legit

What case? What did Clay do, specifically, to you? You mentioned something about him leaving nasty neg-reps while playing nice to you on the board?

I don't know...

Are you really up in arms about him being banned and managing to get back on to the board? That's kind of like being pissed at the sun for rising in the east.

Just sayin'.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709394)
4 straight winning seasons, 3 playoff games, one playoff win and 4 straight winning seasons in the NFL, isn't "mediocre".

You're a worthless troglodyte.

Regardless of 8 user names and bannings and your obvious Claynus infatuation.

1 wild card win, carried by a team far greater in talent than he could ever hope to be.

Team sport?

**** that shit. Alex Smith is a gutless, middling, journeyman loser, carried on the back of one of the best squads to ever be assembled in the modern league.
**** him, **** his fans, and **** Fat Andy if he doesn't ditch that piece of shit post-haste, so that the team he has been charged with coaching can get on with winning something other than a ****ing participation trophy.

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709416)
1 wild card win, carried by a team far greater in talent than he could ever hope to be.

Team sport?

**** that shit. Alex Smith is a gutless, middling, journeyman loser, carried on the back of one of the best squads to ever be assembled in the modern league.
**** him, **** his fans, and **** Fat Andy if he doesn't ditch that piece of shit post-haste, so that the team he is has been charged with coaching can get on with winning something other than a ****ing participation trophy.

**** you

You're beyond worthless

DaneMcCloud 01-25-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12709400)
Whoa!!! I just got an incredible mental image:

Alex Smith as the Alien Queen, shitting out homers, field goals and true fans nonstop, until Big Ben comes along with a flamethrower and burns it all to a crisp.

Photoshop time!

Claynus

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709438)
**** you

You're beyond worthless

That's all you got?

That's what I thought.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-25-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709440)
Claynus

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH........

Titty Meat 01-25-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709254)
You are the most pathetic human being that I've ever encountered in my entire life.

You have zero shame, zero conscience and zero life.

Un. ****ing. Real.

Who is that loser Dane?

Nickhead 01-25-2017 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709254)
You are the most pathetic human being that I've ever encountered in my entire life.

You have zero shame, zero conscience and zero life.

Un. ****ing. Real.

if he is the worst person you have met, you need to get out more. seriously! :D

RealSNR 01-25-2017 11:54 PM

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Picard's face was my reaction to the Pittsburgh game. I had reason to mistrust this football team, but I still went along with it because they had been pulling shit out their asses all year. I thought this time they could keep doing it. I thought this team was different than even last year's team.

Nope. I got fooled again. I was doubly upset, not only for the failure I witnessed but also because I put trust in them to not fail. All I could do was stare and not talk.

Hammock Parties 01-25-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12709669)

Picard's face was my reaction to the Pittsburgh game.

All I could do was stare and not talk.

My reaction:

http://i.imgur.com/9kI0rJ1.gif

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12709663)
if he is the worst person you have met, you need to get out more. seriously! :D

:facepalm:

I haven't "met" him, you butt****ing moron

Nickhead 01-26-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12709676)
:facepalm:

I haven't "met" him, you butt****ing moron

You, have 'met' someone anytime you have come in contact, and communicated with.


If I was lucky enough to have shared texts with Jay-Z like you, I would have 'met' him regardless of mode.

But then again, I may be the lucky one, as you are still drinking his piss in a closet :D

DaneMcCumBubble on this forum. Try to pick him:

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Baby Lee 01-26-2017 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709416)
one of the best squads to ever be assembled in the modern league.

That is one of the mediocrity infatuated, homeristic, things I've EVER seen on CP, and that's

1) truly saying something
2) hilariously ironic, considering the source.

SAUTO 01-26-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12709405)
What case? What did Clay do, specifically, to you? You mentioned something about him leaving nasty neg-reps while playing nice to you on the board?

I don't know...

Are you really up in arms about him being banned and managing to get back on to the board? That's kind of like being pissed at the sun for rising in the east.

Just sayin'.

i never mentioned anything like that.

loochy 01-26-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12709278)
What the hell was 55 doing there? Dude could have hit Brady but he just jumped to the side.

IT R TEH RIGDz


duh

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12709058)
You folks realize MicJones disagrees about that play right? He says Alex couldn't have made it because he would have to throw across his body.

He makes an interesting point.

No he doesn't because there was no reason at all to have thrown across his body for that throw. If Smith sets his feet at the back of his drop, he can turn his shoulders and make an easy strike.

Once he rolled out it was over but there was NO reason to roll out whatsoever. It's just a terrible play by Smith.

Spott 01-26-2017 09:36 AM

Smith finished last in the QB skills competition in Orlando yesterday. It should be no surprise that he was one of only 2 QBs that couldn't hit any of the deep moving targets. The other was Dak Prescott.

Rausch 01-26-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12709950)
Smith finished last in the QB skills competition in Orlando yesterday. It should be no surprise that he was one of only 2 QBs that couldn't hit any of the deep moving targets. The other was Dak Prescott.

And Dak was a ****ing rookie.

Does anyone really think Alex's skills and athletic ability will increase after 33?...

Rausch 01-26-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Snica (Post 12700303)
But this is how the Chiefs always do it. Go get a retread and never address the future. When said retread is done or failed, we just go get another retread.

Rinse. Repeat.

Only 2.5 retreads have worked out. Lenny got us to two superbowls and one championship. Joe Montana got us to the AFC championship game. Trent is the .5 because he had the offense rolling but Dick was an ass and ignored the defense.

Pretty much.

SAUTO 01-26-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12709957)
And Dak was a ****ing rookie.

Does anyone really think Alex's skills and athletic ability will increase after 33?...

Well tiger bob obviously does.

Rausch 01-26-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12710272)
Well tiger bob obviously does.

Well, he's a fool...

SAUTO 01-26-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12710282)
Well, he's a fool...

You got that right

wutamess 01-26-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12708904)

This guy on my fb feed that's a football coach for a college says that Hill was supposed to run a corner route and that the Saftey squatting means The other safety was to have coverage over top of Hill.

I get the concept but I told him that if that was Roth and Antonio Brown, there's no way Roth wouldn't have loved that matchup and let it fly. Dude basically said A. Smith did right. We respectfully agreed to disagree on so many levels.

1st. it's a fake WR screen. Both players were open on that side. Hill is Smiths #2 read and all players had bit the screen. Smith then bails out of the pocket prematurely (as he always does) and then when he scrambles he doesn't keep his eyes down field. smh all around.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 01:24 PM

You can see the other safety spying Hill, I'll grant you. I hadn't looked at him that closely. That said, he (probably Mitchell?) is also trying to squat on Harris on the underneath route and there's no way he has the closing speed to cover that much ground.

Smith should've thrown it out there and let his guy get it; it's the kind of play that a quarterback who purports to "get the ball to his playmakers and let them make plays" would've made.

I see a brilliantly designed play that froze coverage and left the deep threat looking at 20 yards of open pasture....blown up by a QB that wouldn't let him go get it.

wutamess 01-26-2017 01:37 PM

That was his argument... However... the squatting safety underneath, you have to know that any WR against a squatting safety, when they're even, they're leaving. ESPECIALLY with Tyreek! The spy was no where NEAR over the top in coverage.

Gotta let it fly.
Foles would have.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 12710460)
That was his argument... However... the squatting safety underneath, you have to know that any WR against a squatting safety, when they're even, they're leaving. ESPECIALLY with Tyreek! The spy was no where NEAR over the top in coverage.

Gotta let it fly.
Foles would have.

He might have been right had Mitchell not taken his eyes off Hill and turned to Harris.

If Mitchell's baiting that throw, he might have been able to get over there (and I emphasize might; Mitchell isn't a burner by any stretch and Hill had a lot of space). But once he turned his head to look at Harris, Smith had him dead to rights.

Besides, if Smith still throws the corner route and puts a little loft under it towards the sideline, there's no reason that Hill couldn't have adjusted to the throw. As I noted when grudgingly giving that piece of human feces credit, he's a shockingly instinctive WR. His ability to adjust to throws and throw little nuances into his routes has shocked the hell out of me.

Gotta give him a shot there, you just have to.

wutamess 01-26-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710464)
He might have been right had Mitchell not taken his eyes off Hill and turned to Harris.

If Mitchell's baiting that throw, he might have been able to get over there (and I emphasize might; Mitchell isn't a burner by any stretch and Hill had a lot of space). But once he turned his head to look at Harris, Smith had him dead to rights.

Besides, if Smith still throws the corner route and puts a little loft under it towards the sideline, there's no reason that Hill couldn't have adjusted to the throw. As I noted when grudgingly giving that piece of human feces credit, he's a shockingly instinctive WR. His ability to adjust to throws and throw little nuances into his routes has shocked the hell out of me.

Gotta give him a shot there, you just have to.

But the entire time... Mitchell's hips never open and he's in squat position against The fastest player in the NFL. No WAY he gets anywhere close to a ball that leads TH even if the throw starts BEFORE he gets to the first squatting safety.

But yeah. Smith bails out when there's no pressure anyways AND misses the RB coming open on the back side. Bring on Foles. win or lose we're not going to win the big one with Smith so we're wasting our time.

kcxiv 01-26-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 12710420)
This guy on my fb feed that's a football coach for a college says that Hill was supposed to run a corner route and that the Saftey squatting means The other safety was to have coverage over top of Hill.

I get the concept but I told him that if that was Roth and Antonio Brown, there's no way Roth wouldn't have loved that matchup and let it fly. Dude basically said A. Smith did right. We respectfully agreed to disagree on so many levels.

1st. it's a fake WR screen. Both players were open on that side. Hill is Smiths #2 read and all players had bit the screen. Smith then bails out of the pocket prematurely (as he always does) and then when he scrambles he doesn't keep his eyes down field. smh all around.

There is no ****ing way that the Safety even if he turns catches Hill. There is no way a safety is going to keep up with Hill in a straight sprint like that. None.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 12710529)
There is no ****ing way that the Safety even if he turns catches Hill. There is no way a safety is going to keep up with Hill in a straight sprint like that. None.

Ugh....everytime I watch that play I try to talk myself out of hating it and can't.

I was going to respond "yeah, but by the time Hill pulls even, Smith has to put that ball 60 yards in the air to keep Hill from outrunning it, which even premier QBs would struggle with there, so maybe since the throw would've been a bit late and over the middle, an extreme no-no, he chose to fight another day"

Then I watched it again and realized he could've put the ball about 35 yards downfield from the moment Hill pulled even with Davis (and Smith was still looking over there) and Hill would've easily pulled under it without having to slow up. 35 yards in the air isn't asking too much of anyone. Hill found space so quickly that it's just an easy pitch and catch.

Again, Smith just blew it. He just absolutely blew it.

The Franchise 01-26-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710554)
Ugh....everytime I watch that play I try to talk myself out of hating it and can't.

I was going to respond "yeah, but by the time Hill pulls even, Smith has to put that ball 60 yards in the air to keep Hill from outrunning it, which even premier QBs would struggle with there, so maybe since the throw would've been a bit late and over the middle, an extreme no-no, he chose to fight another day"

Then I watched it again and realized he could've put the ball about 35 yards downfield from the moment Hill pulled even with Davis (and Smith was still looking over there) and Hill would've easily pulled under it without having to slow up. 35 yards in the air isn't asking too much of anyone. Hill found space so quickly that it's just an easy pitch and catch.

Again, Smith just blew it. He just absolutely blew it.

And it's not like that was the only thing that he blew in that game. If that was it....I'd be prone to find something else to blame but then you add the two horrible throws to Ware.....and the missed opportunities to Conley and Hill....and **** man. And that's not even taking into consideration the delay of game and waste of a timeout.

O.city 01-26-2017 02:30 PM

When smith puts his back foot down, all he had to do was throe it to the 50 and it's a td. Mitchell isn't gonna outrun him or have the angle.

Baby Lee 01-26-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710464)
He might have been right had Mitchell not taken his eyes off Hill and turned to Harris.

If Mitchell's baiting that throw, he might have been able to get over there (and I emphasize might; Mitchell isn't a burner by any stretch and Hill had a lot of space). But once he turned his head to look at Harris, Smith had him dead to rights.

Besides, if Smith still throws the corner route and puts a little loft under it towards the sideline, there's no reason that Hill couldn't have adjusted to the throw. As I noted when grudgingly giving that piece of human feces credit, he's a shockingly instinctive WR. His ability to adjust to throws and throw little nuances into his routes has shocked the hell out of me.

Gotta give him a shot there, you just have to.

The point missing in this I brought up earlier, what is the effect if Reid flat tells Tyreek 'you're the decoy?'

What does Alex think of Tyreek's ability to read that he's not the decoy, but the target. What IS Tyreek's ability to make that switch?

The scheme sent in from the sidelines freed up the RB on a fly pattern even more uncovered than Tyreek, . . . that developed too late with the DE closing in on Alex too fast. Otherwise it was a great scheme.

It's the age old dilemma of the goat standing in the exact middle between to ponds. He dies of thirst because he can't decide which pond is preferable to go drink from.

SAUTO 01-26-2017 02:33 PM

There's no defending that play. He missed multiple open guys and bailed out of the pocket way too early.

The Franchise 01-26-2017 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12710602)
The point missing in this I brought up earlier, what is the effect if Reid flat tells Tyreek 'you're the decoy?'

What does Alex think of Tyreek's ability to read that he's not the decoy, but the target. What IS Tyreek's ability to make that switch?

The scheme sent in from the sidelines freed up the RB on a fly pattern even more uncovered than Tyreek, . . . that developed too late with the DE closing in on Alex too fast. Otherwise it was a great scheme.

Because I don't think the RB was supposed to run a fly pattern. He sat down in his route and only broke out of it when Smith started scrambling

O.city 01-26-2017 02:35 PM

I don't think smith ever actually looked at tyreek. Look at when he takes out the pocket etc. Pretty clear he was looking at kelce the entire play and once he was knocked off his path he bailed. That's why the safety stayed with k3lce.

The Franchise 01-26-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12710620)
I don't think smith ever actually looked at tyreek. Look at when he takes out the pocket etc. Pretty clear he was looking at kelce the entire play and once he was knocked off his path he bailed. That's why the safety stayed with k3lce.

Which is still a **** up. Kelce got knocked off.....but he could have waited the half a second to see that Harrison then turned his attention towards rushing Smith. Kelce would have picked up an easy 10-12 yards.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12710602)
The point missing in this I brought up earlier, what is the effect if Reid flat tells Tyreek 'you're the decoy?'

What does Alex think of Tyreek's ability to read that he's not the decoy, but the target. What IS Tyreek's ability to make that switch?

The scheme sent in from the sidelines freed up the RB on a fly pattern even more uncovered than Tyreek, . . . that developed too late with the DE closing in on Alex too fast. Otherwise it was a great scheme.

It's the age old dilemma of the goat standing in the exact middle between to ponds. He dies of thirst because he can't decide which pond is preferable to go drink from.

Watch Hill - he's not acting like a decoy. He turned to look for the ball and even threw a hand up. He even tried rolling with Smith when he saw the bailout.

Apart from blind hope, what happens there that makes you think Hill's a decoy? Moreover, what in the world would've stopped him from actually catching the pass as he continued to look Smith's way, even if he was a decoy.

I don't believe for a second he was a decoy nor do I think a professional athlete would've been so shocked by seeing a ball come his way that he'd have wet himself and turtled.

If Alex thinks that Hill can't make that play, it's not a dehydrated goat, it's a vapor-locked engine. It's picture perfect 'paralysis by analysis' and if your physically limited game manager of a QB is getting locked up by that, just exactly what is it that he does out there?

He absolutely has to make that play. He just has to.

O.city 01-26-2017 02:38 PM

Pretty much.

Which brings up a bigger issue to me. If you're gonna go with the thought that tyreek is a decoy there, no matter what and isn't going to get a throw whether he's open or not, why is our veteran starting qb operating a single read play like that?

The Franchise 01-26-2017 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12710635)
Pretty much.

Which brings up a bigger issue to me. If you're gonna go with the thought that tyreek is a decoy there, no matter what and isn't going to get a throw whether he's open or not, why is our veteran starting qb operating a single read play like that?

Because he's done it before.....and thrown INTs doing it.

Baby Lee 01-26-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710630)
Apart from blind hope, what happens there that makes you think Hill's a decoy?

Other than the fact that he was clearly a decoy the entire game?

Collinsworth remarked on it repeatedly. How it was a clear strategy of the Chiefs to use Hill to free up the rest of the skill positions. How the Steelers chasing Hill down was freeing up gains elsewhere.

I'm not saying I know. I'm offering an alternative narrative to 'Alex shit his pants on an no-brainer and simply spazzed over to the sidelines.' It's possible he was a good soldier, AND it's possible he should have chucked being the good soldier and heaved something Hill's way, given how the play unfolded.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2017 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12710653)
Other than the fact that he was clearly a decoy the entire game?

Collinsworth remarked on it repeatedly. How it was a clear strategy of the Chiefs to use Hill to free up the rest of the skill positions. How the Steelers chasing Hill down was freeing up gains elsewhere.

I'm not saying I know. I'm offering an alternative narrative to 'Alex shit his pants on an no-brainer and simply spazzed over to the sidelines.' It's possible he was a good soldier, AND it's possible he should have chucked being the good soldier and heaved something Hill's way, given how the play unfolded.

And as I said, even if Hill WAS a decoy, Alex still shit his pants on a no-brainder and spazzed over to the sidelines.

Decoy or not a decoy, throw the goddamn ball.

Baby Lee 01-26-2017 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710659)
And as I said, even if Hill WAS a decoy, Alex still shit his pants on a no-brainder and spazzed over to the sidelines.

Decoy or not a decoy, throw the goddamn ball.

As I said earlier 3 things having nothing to do with Hill went wrong.

The RB sat down a beat too long
The DE read Alex's rollout too quickly
Alex didn't manage to loft a pass over the top to the RB anyway.

Suboptimal end to a promising start for the play, but not the blatant QB-centric spazz job of all time some are arguing.

O.city 01-26-2017 02:48 PM

Running ghost motion or something to be a decoysybe, but running a route like that, I can't imagine he'd be that much of a decoy.

The steelers looked to start in a 2 high safety look and dropped the rookie safety whose name escapes me down into the kelce box there. Looks like the exact look you'd want with that hill route to develop. I dunno, the way it unfolded against the initial snap look, I dunno who they're trying to get open? By Smith's reaction I'm guessing kelce but he looked to be running a flat route with the outside wr running a shallow stop to hold that corner there.

Bowser 01-26-2017 02:50 PM

All I know is this - Alex makes that play, that one single play, and we are in the AFCCG. That long touchdown play would have changed the entire dynamic of the game.

O.city 01-26-2017 02:50 PM

The rb takes off on the scramble drill once the qb breaks the pocket. I don't think that's part of the design there from the get go.

Baby Lee 01-26-2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12710670)
All I know is this - Alex makes that play, that one single play, and we are in the AFCCG. That long touchdown play would have changed the entire dynamic of the game.

Would you have been satisfied if he had completed to the RB instead of Hill?

The Franchise 01-26-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12710672)
The rb takes off on the scramble drill once the qb breaks the pocket. I don't think that's part of the design there from the get go.

That's what I've been saying the entire time. The RB was not running a fly pattern.

Bowser 01-26-2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12710673)
Would you have been satisfied if he had completed to the RB instead of Hill?

Anything would have been better than what we actually got out of that play.

My point is that the Chiefs had been contained to that point. If Alex can just spot not just an open guy, but a wide the **** open guy streaking alone down the field before feeling the need to break from a clean pocket, then an explosive play like that would have put Pittsburgh back on their heels both offensively and defensively.

We would have made the AFCCG if that play is made, I have zero doubt. Alex didn't have it in him to make that play (or even the one to the running back).

Hammock Parties 01-26-2017 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12710602)
The scheme sent in from the sidelines freed up the RB on a fly pattern even more uncovered than Tyreek, . . . that developed too late with the DE closing in on Alex too fast. Otherwise it was a great scheme.

That part of the play wasn't "schemed." That's a scramble drill.

Smith is improvising because he botched reading the coverage and pressure made him run.

The RB completed his route, saw the QB running and took off trying to give him an open target.

You're just making excuses because you like Alex Smith.

stevieray 01-26-2017 04:13 PM

IMO, he watches Hill run open..when he takes the snap and goes back and plants.. he should be firing the ball...that hesitation cost them the play.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2017 04:44 PM

What is clear from watching years of Alex Smith is that he doesn't anticipate guys coming open.

Other than a few rare instances (mostly on predetermined throws), he mostly throws the ball WHEN they are open.

He dropped back and saw a safety near enough to Tyreek Hill that when a pass rusher flashed in his vision, escaping from that scary guy took priority over waiting any longer for Hill to get "Alex Smith open."

He plays from a place of fear and will continue to do so as long as it wins 10-12 games and earns him big fat checks.

SAUTO 01-26-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12710630)
Watch Hill - he's not acting like a decoy. He turned to look for the ball and even threw a hand up. He even tried rolling with Smith when he saw the bailout.

Apart from blind hope, what happens there that makes you think Hill's a decoy? Moreover, what in the world would've stopped him from actually catching the pass as he continued to look Smith's way, even if he was a decoy.

I don't believe for a second he was a decoy nor do I think a professional athlete would've been so shocked by seeing a ball come his way that he'd have wet himself and turtled.

If Alex thinks that Hill can't make that play, it's not a dehydrated goat, it's a vapor-locked engine. It's picture perfect 'paralysis by analysis' and if your physically limited game manager of a QB is getting locked up by that, just exactly what is it that he does out there?

He absolutely has to make that play. He just has to.

this is totally correct

Hammock Parties 01-26-2017 06:19 PM

"Pro Bowler"

http://i.imgur.com/fv8dDvK.gif

KCUnited 01-26-2017 06:21 PM

LMAO

Bowser 01-26-2017 06:21 PM

:LOL:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-26-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12710712)
Anything would have been better than what we actually got out of that play.

My point is that the Chiefs had been contained to that point. If Alex can just spot not just an open guy, but a wide the **** open guy streaking alone down the field before feeling the need to break from a clean pocket, then an explosive play like that would have put Pittsburgh back on their heels both offensively and defensively.

We would have made the AFCCG if that play is made, I have zero doubt. Alex didn't have it in him to make that play (or even the one to the running back).

Or the defense forces another punt. Or if the receivers didn't drop five passes. Or Reid learns how to call plays. Or special teams did something meaningful.

BigCatDaddy 01-26-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12711116)

:facepalm: LMAO

The Franchise 01-26-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12711135)
Or the defense forces another punt. Or if the receivers didn't drop five passes. Or Reid learns how to call plays. Or special teams did something meaningful.

Or Alex Smith tears his ACL and Foles comes in to win the game.

SAUTO 01-26-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12711116)

Oh
My
****ing
God

kccrow 01-26-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12711116)

That's how you average 1 TD per game as an NFL QB. I don't see the issue. :shrug:

I mean, get better defense, better lineman, and better receivers. All is good.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2017 06:55 PM

Smith even sucks at dodgeball.

http://i.imgur.com/nhHBjpO.gif

SAUTO 01-26-2017 06:56 PM

Holy ****

PRIEST 01-26-2017 07:07 PM

Haha


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