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ToxSocks 03-22-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16868912)
The longer this lingers the more likely I think it is that Hardman comes back for a year.

The longer this lingers the closer we get to hearing, "Chiefs view Toney as 'WR1' "

O.city 03-22-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16868912)
Just repeating what Nate Taylor said on the pod.
The longer this lingers the more likely I think it is that Hardman comes back for a year.

He needs to rehab his body and his value. Better to stay at a place you know then try to go somewhere else later on

When he went on a pod and said something along the lines of "Andy stunted my production" I'm guessing he's done here.

chiefzilla1501 03-22-2023 10:24 AM

I want a WR1 as much as anyone but there’s no need to panic. Play DHop and obj off of each other and hope one flinches. If neither does, just wait it out.

Meanwhile, I can’t imagine the wr free agent market is fully formed yet. I imagine jeudy and Higgins will move which takes teams out of the market and maybe let’s a few WRs loose. Can’t see players like allen Robinson and maybe several jets WRs sticking around. Several mega contracts coming… biggest one being Herbert which opens up Keenan allen and mike Williams. But also guys like Lamar, hurts, burrow, etc…

And if not, the 2024 market looks good. We just need a one year bandaid which is why getting a 1-2 year fix like obj and DHop is intriguing… at the right price. If not the right price then you can find a 1-year stopgap elsewhere.



And if not, just wait til next year when you have guys like waddle, Devonta smith, etc… probably a much stronger wr market.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16868920)
When he went on a pod and said something along the lines of "Andy stunted my production" I'm guessing he's done here.

Meh. He didn't really say it like that.

RunKC 03-22-2023 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16868920)
When he went on a pod and said something along the lines of "Andy stunted my production" I'm guessing he's done here.

Woah did he really say that? I miss something?

htismaqe 03-22-2023 10:27 AM

I totally agree with you that there's no reason to panic.

O.city 03-22-2023 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16868926)
I want a WR1 as much as anyone but there’s no need to panic. Play DHop and obj off of each other and hope one flinches. If neither does, just wait it out.

Meanwhile, I can’t imagine the wr free agent market is fully formed yet. I imagine jeudy and Higgins will move which takes teams out of the market and maybe let’s a few WRs loose. Can’t see players like allen Robinson and maybe several jets WRs sticking around. Several mega contracts coming… biggest one being Herbert which opens up Keenan allen and mike Williams. But also guys like Lamar, hurts, burrow, etc…

And if not, the 2024 market looks good. We just need a one year bandaid which is why getting a 1-2 year fix like obj and DHop is intriguing… at the right price. If not the right price then you can find a 1-year stopgap elsewhere.



And if not, just wait til next year when you have guys like waddle, Devonta smith,

I'm not going to FA for a WR. The guys that hit FA, do for a reason and some of the guys you listed here are just on the back side of their career.

Draft or trade for a guy and pay him. It is what it is.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16868934)
Woah did he really say that? I miss something?

He basically said that he didn't have more production because he had Hill and Kelce ahead of him and it's hard to get targets with those guys above you in the pecking order.

People are kinda just twisting it a bit to sound more malicious than it was.

O.city 03-22-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16868932)
Meh. He didn't really say it like that.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16868934)
Woah did he really say that? I miss something?

I just saw clips of it. Maybe I missed something.

Reroka 03-22-2023 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16868934)
Woah did he really say that? I miss something?

I read an article on this and heard the clip on twitter. I say that he is done here.

The Franchise 03-22-2023 10:30 AM

All Mecole said that was when he was getting 8+ targets a game...he was putting up good numbers. Basically it was hard to get in a rhythm when he wasn't getting targets. He never said that Andy stunted his production.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16868954)
All Mecole said that was when he was getting 8+ targets a game...he was putting up good numbers. Basically it was hard to get in a rhythm when he wasn't getting targets. He never said that Andy stunted his production.

This.

DJ's left nut 03-22-2023 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16868889)
According to Hopkins representatives, they aren't looking at bank-breaking money. I don't think there's anything to the rumors that he wants well over $25M AAV.

'Bank-Breaking' is pretty relative. Especially for a team sitting on about $9 million in cap space right now.

I just get so exhausted by these guys who want to re-do their contracts every season. It makes proper roster planning damn near impossible. Then to see folks like Mahomes and Kelce, or even Jones - who has played quietly on his deal from day 1 that it was signed, or guys like Fisher and Schwartz before this group...

We've been awfully fortunate to not have '**** you, pay me' on this roster really in Reid's entire tenure. Frankly the last guy I can think of who was often saber rattling about his deal was Tony Gonzalez.

staylor26 03-22-2023 10:32 AM

If the Chiefs don't trade for Hopkins or sign OBJ, Hardman would be a fool not to return on a 1 year deal.

With no JuJu in the picture, the opportunity is there for a career year.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-22-2023 10:33 AM

From today on PFF:

WR DEANDRE HOPKINS, ARIZONA CARDINALS
Possible Landing Spots: Carolina Panthers, New York Giants, New England Patriots

Hopkins has been the biggest name on the trading block all offseason, and in a year where elite receivers are hard to come by, he is still an option that must be tempting for several teams, even with his contract. That contract, long seen as an outlier by the rest of the NFL, is significantly more palatable now than it was when he first received it, which could tempt some teams into parting with a draft pick to secure a No. 1 option. Hopkins has gained over 2.0 yards per route run for his entire career despite having a rough quarterback situation for much of that time. He caught over 50% of contested catches last season and at 30 years old, he still likely has multiple seasons at the top before decline sets in.

Best Fit: Carolina Panthers


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