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Fish 10-13-2011 11:55 AM

We're going to be implementing this at work....

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WilliamTheIrish 10-14-2011 10:43 AM

Fish:

Since purchasing the iPad 1 I've been looking for a FaceTime-like app. Do you know of anything like that. Since I'm moving away I'd like to find a way to keep in touch in real time with loved ones. Not a big fan of webcams.

Any suggestions short of purchasing an iPad2? Even if it's not iPad related I'd be interested. But my preferences lie with this technology since I have it in hand.

The_Doctor10 10-14-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7994384)
Fish:

Since purchasing the iPad 1 I've been looking for a FaceTime-like app. Do you know of anything like that. Since I'm moving away I'd like to find a way to keep in touch in real time with loved ones. Not a big fan of webcams.

Any suggestions short of purchasing an iPad2? Even if it's not iPad related I'd be interested. But my preferences lie with this technology since I have it in hand.

Skype for iPad? You don't need video calling, it works seamlessly in my experience... That'd be your best bet.

Fish 10-14-2011 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7994384)
Fish:

Since purchasing the iPad 1 I've been looking for a FaceTime-like app. Do you know of anything like that. Since I'm moving away I'd like to find a way to keep in touch in real time with loved ones. Not a big fan of webcams.

Any suggestions short of purchasing an iPad2? Even if it's not iPad related I'd be interested. But my preferences lie with this technology since I have it in hand.

I don't know of a solution for the iPad 1 in regards to a webcam. Nothing turns up when searching for it either. I really doubt you'd find a good solution for iPad 1.

You can get a really cheap and easy solution for a laptop though. Either Mac or PC.

Silock 11-09-2011 02:41 AM

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/09/...-mobile-flash/

Adobe discontinuing Flash for mobile players.

LOL

I guess it was really inevitable, though, considering how much of their approach they were switching to HTML5 lately.

The Rick 11-09-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8093997)
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/09/...-mobile-flash/

Adobe discontinuing Flash for mobile players.

LOL

I guess it was really inevitable, though, considering how much of their approach they were switching to HTML5 lately.

The guys at Apple must be feeling a little bit of vindication today regarding their decision to not include flash. :)

I'll be curious to see how everything shakes out as a result...

NewChief 11-09-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rick (Post 8094646)
The guys at Apple must be feeling a little bit of vindication today regarding their decision to not include flash. :)

I'll be curious to see how everything shakes out as a result...

AustinChief? Paging Mr. AustinChief?

The Rick 11-09-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8094649)
AustinChief? Paging Mr. AustinChief?

:LOL:

I had made up my mind that I wasn't going to go there...I was going to let someone else do it instead. :p

Pitt Gorilla 11-09-2011 02:10 PM

Well, duh.

AustinChief 11-09-2011 04:35 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously? you guys are going to claim this as a win 18+ months later? I told you that Flash would eventually go away... no one disputed that point... but you all screamed at me about HTML5 and I responded by pointing out its stupendously slow adoption rate... which unfortunately still holds true. I wish I could have been a little LESS right on that fact... but HTML5 has progressed at a snails pace over the last year.

Let's look at browser share... right now Firefox, Chrome, Opera and their mobile equivalents are just over 50% (or right at it... it doesn't matter let's just call it 50%) .. IE and Safari are the other 50% basically... The first group only supports(natively) WebM for HTML5 video the second only supports h.264... until THAT is resolved... HTML5 will remain stuck in a rut.

Let's look at the facts boys... Adobe has announced they will not focus on a new mobile Flash version AFTER the next release... so basically all the Android people have 2 or 3 years left before they might start to see issues.. which means someone like myself will have only gotten to enjoy Flash on my phone/tablet for 4-5 years ...

Guys, you LOST this argument a few Fridays ago when I was sitting at a college football game and watching the World Series game 7 on my phone... the guy in front of me wanted to watch too so I got his email and sent him the link... he opened it up and of course.. his iphone told him it wouldn't work. You lost this argument two days ago when I sent a few friends a link to the condo I am looking at http://vt.realtour.biz/?P=79149&T=NOTIDX and the ones on iphones couldn't open it and told me they would look at it when they are in front of a real computer.

yes Flash is going away.. we all knew this would happen some day.. my only concern is how strikingly WRONG you guys were on HTML5... I knew it would be slow but I certainly didn't think it would be THIS slow.

Frankly, I'm a bit concerned... I don't want to wake up in 2-3 years and be in the same boat as an iphone user... only able to use pieces of the web. I have used FLASH on my phone almost every day for the last year and a half. YEAR AND A HALF! That's a freaking lifetime in technology...


Oh and one last thing... in the last two weeks I have been places where I couldn't watch the Chiefs or Michigan games on TV or a computer so I watched them live on my Touchpad ... any of you iPad users able to watch them? No? Ouch.

Jawshco 11-09-2011 05:19 PM

The New Nook Tablet
 
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33198_7...es-fire-eater/

I have the Nook Tablet 1.0 (a.k.a. the easily modifiable Nook Color), but the price and the specs of this new Nook are pretty tempting, and I've really enjoyed the quality and the comfortable size of the Nook that I have. I'm sure the makers of the original Nook Color are well aware that most owner's of this device immediately mod'd it and made it into a fully functional tablet. It's surprising that it took them this long to put the product out since it's had the capability all along. At least this Nook will have even better performance than the first tablet.

Silock 11-09-2011 05:54 PM

First off

http://i39.tinypic.com/15yb2b.jpg

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8095469)
Let's look at browser share... right now Firefox, Chrome, Opera and their mobile equivalents are just over 50% (or right at it... it doesn't matter let's just call it 50%) .. IE and Safari are the other 50% basically... The first group only supports(natively) WebM for HTML5 video the second only supports h.264... until THAT is resolved... HTML5 will remain stuck in a rut.

iOS owns 61% of the mobile browser marketshare. The mobile marketshare is all that matters in this particular discussion.

http://www.slashgear.com/apple-ios-o...r-61-01192272/

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Let's look at the facts boys... Adobe has announced they will not focus on a new mobile Flash version AFTER the next release... so basically all the Android people have 2 or 3 years left before they might start to see issues.. which means someone like myself will have only gotten to enjoy Flash on my phone/tablet for 4-5 years ...
No one is disputing this.

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Guys, you LOST this argument a few Fridays ago when I was sitting at a college football game and watching the World Series game 7 on my phone... the guy in front of me wanted to watch too so I got his email and sent him the link... he opened it up and of course.. his iphone told him it wouldn't work. You lost this argument two days ago when I sent a few friends a link to the condo I am looking at http://vt.realtour.biz/?P=79149&T=NOTIDX and the ones on iphones couldn't open it and told me they would look at it when they are in front of a real computer.
I watch every sport I want to stream. There are plenty of ways to do it. Can you do it natively? No, and that's kind of a bummer. But there are things that Android won't do natively that are solved with a simple download/app.

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yes Flash is going away.. we all knew this would happen some day.. my only concern is how strikingly WRONG you guys were on HTML5... I knew it would be slow but I certainly didn't think it would be THIS slow.
This is revisionist history.

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Oh and one last thing... in the last two weeks I have been places where I couldn't watch the Chiefs or Michigan games on TV or a computer so I watched them live on my Touchpad ... any of you iPad users able to watch them? No? Ouch.
Uh, yes. Have fun with your underpowered Touchpad that won't even do Netflix because no one wants to be bothered to program for that abortion of a product.

Seriously, bro. Why you so angry? It's just an operating system.

AustinChief 11-09-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8095615)
First off

http://i39.tinypic.com/15yb2b.jpg



iOS owns 61% of the mobile browser marketshare. The mobile marketshare is all that matters in this particular discussion.

http://www.slashgear.com/apple-ios-o...r-61-01192272/



No one is disputing this.



I watch every sport I want to stream. There are plenty of ways to do it. Can you do it natively? No, and that's kind of a bummer. But there are things that Android won't do natively that are solved with a simple download/app.



This is revisionist history.



Uh, yes. Have fun with your underpowered Touchpad that won't even do Netflix because no one wants to be bothered to program for that abortion of a product.

Seriously, bro. Why you so angry? It's just an operating system.

No total browser share is what is important... because we are talking about the adoption rate of a STANDARD... it isn't going anywhere until the industry can at least pick a video standard...

YOU can stream sports because YOU jumped through hoops to do so.. most users of iOS can not or will not... and I notice you ignored the virtual tour link I posted? Can you view that on your iPad/iPhone?

And what exactly is revisionist history? Go back and read the posts... the fanbois were saying that HTML5 was taking over and Flash wasn't needed... they were wrong then and they'd be wrong now... I said HTML5 was the future but it was not here yet and would take a loooong time for enough adoption to make Flash obsolete. I was right, I was sooo right that I am getting worried that Flash will exit the picture before HTML5 has time to catch up.

Dude I got my "underpowered" touchpad for $150 and where do you get the underpowered nonsense? 1.2 Ghz proc with 1GB ram... not exactly a slouch. I also have a full implementation of Ubuntu running on and will probably switch to ICS when it is ported in a few months. And for REAL computing I have a Windows tablet...

Face facts... the apple crowd was dead wrong about html5 adoption rates and the impending demise of Flash.. to try to claim a victory A YEAR AND A HALF LATER ...is just sad.

Silock 11-09-2011 06:49 PM

But total adoption rate doesn't matter HERE because the issue at hand is Flash for MOBILE browsers.

Downloading an app is hardly jumping through hoops.

No, I can't. But I don't need or want to, either. I have been using iOS for well over a year now. The amount of times the lack of Flash has directly interfered with my enjoyment of the device or ability to use the web is about .00000001%.

It's revisionist history because no one said that Flash would die immediately. And it won't and hasn't. But the fact that Adobe has now discontinued it for mobile means that everyone saying Flash was dying were absolutely correct.

Even the TouchPad team said it was underpowered. They found that it ran twice as fast on the iPad 2 hardware.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives...webos_ipad.php

Wrong about the impending demise of Flash? Are you in denial? Flash's impending demise for mobile has been confirmed by its creators. The fact that you continue to deny it is unreal.

Fish 11-09-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8095672)
and I notice you ignored the virtual tour link I posted? Can you view that on your iPad/iPhone?

Do you mean this virtual tour?

Seems to work on my iPad2....

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