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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Sorry Bob, but you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong.

ESPN.com provides splits, free of charge, and they track passes IN THE AIR (back to 2002).

Let just take 3 years from each "period" that you've chosen as your sample.

2010 - 64 attempts over 20 yards, 11 over 40 yards
2009 - 48 attempts over 20 yards, 12 over 40 yards
2008 - 62 attempts over 20 yards, 11 over 40 yards

2004 - 71 attempts over 20 yards, TWENTY EIGHT over 40 yards
2003 - 63 attempts over 20 yards, 6 over 40 yards
2002 - 48 attempts over 20 yards, 8 over 40 yards

2004 WRs were Todd Pinkston, Terrell Owens, and Freddie Mitchell. No Maclin, no Jackson.

You're wrong dude, you're just wrong.

I mentioned Owens all along dude. Now, let's see the 20+ attempt rankings like Clay used. Where did they rank in the league? Quit twisting shit and tell the whole story. Post the rankings for every year from 1999 to present

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9355404)

Your shit has been proven wrong.

You want to begin to establish credibility, then stop being a dipshit here and admit your mistake.

Let's see the stats of how many times Reid threw it deep to Pinkston and Thrash or Charles Johnson and Torrence Small. I've been asking for it all along. My first response to Clayton's post started with "you can't just pick and choose stats."

If he is going to make an argument, start from the beginning. Andy Reid was a coach there for 14 years and he picked all the years they had their best deep threat in his tenure.

I won't resort to name calling but, you are way off here.

I am done with this argument. The point was that Geno is not any better of a prospect than Wilson for Reid's offense.

Let's get back to talking about Wilson as this is a Wilson thread.

Can you Geno ball washers do that?

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355416)

I mentioned Owens all along dude. Now, let's see the 20+ attempts rankings like Clay used.

Let's see the stats of how many times Reid threw it deep to Pinkston and Thrash or Charles Johnson and Torrence Small. I've been asking for it all along. My first response to Clayton's post started with "you can't just pick and choose stats."

If he is going to make an argument, start from the beginning. Andy Reid was a coach there for 14 years and he picked all the years they had their best deep threat in his tenure.

I won't resort to name calling but, you are way off here.

I am done with this argument. The point was that Geno is not any better of a prospect than Wilson for Reid's offense.

Let's get back to talking about Wilson as this is a Wilson thread.

Can you Geno ball washers do that?

:banghead:

This guy absurdly deserves a ban. He's shit on thread over a d over then turns it on others

It's awful and needs to stop

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9355429)

:banghead:

Edited... see above

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355435)

Edited... see above

The attempts over 20 yards in '02, '03, and '04 are equal to or higher than the numbers in '08, '09, '10, when the league had evolved more to a pssing league.

There's no way those attempts are not top 10 on those years.

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355151)

Again, he went back to like 2007 which is five out of 14 years in Philly. He had speed during that time. My point is that Reid uses the tools he has and doesn't force his offense. I can't say it any other way. It's time to move on...

I included 2004, 2003, and 2002.

Admit you are wrong.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9355434)

This guy absurdly deserves a ban. He's shit on thread over a d over then turns it on others

It's awful and needs to stop

It's easier to just not respond to it.

I'd like to kill it with fire, though.

Here's an idea: how about you do your own research to prove your point?

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9355442)

Horseshit. Show the league rankings or you have no argument. You are spinning this shit. The argument is 20+ yard pass attempt league rankings vs. talent with speed vs. yards passing average.

That's been the comparison all day and you started this. I have catered to you all day and you have nothing.

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9355449)

Here's an idea: how about you do your own research to prove your point?

Yeah, no shit man. I am tired of doing all the work and being twisted around.

People are way to liberal on stats here. If you are going to use them, tell the whole story.

Here are Donovan McNabb's ATTEMPTS over 20 yards for every year of his career.

Code:

Year        Team        20

2011        Minnesota Vikings        14

                

2010        Washington Redskins        41

                

2009        Philadelphia Eagles        55

                

2008        Philadelphia Eagles        52

                

2007        Philadelphia Eagles        35

                

2006        Philadelphia Eagles        44

                

2005        Philadelphia Eagles        27

                

2004        Philadelphia Eagles        50

                

2003        Philadelphia Eagles        44

                

2002        Philadelphia Eagles        27

                

2001        Philadelphia Eagles        44

                

2000        Philadelphia Eagles        45

                

1999        Philadelphia Eagles        7

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355451)

No, the argument has been that Reid likes to go downfield with the ball.

You are the one that has been spinning, and you continue to do so, rather that admit your error.

Good luck with credibility, dipshit.

You'll never have any.

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355453)

Yeah, no shit man. I am tired of doing all the work and being twisted around.

People are way to liberal on stats here. If you are going to use them, tell the whole story.

ROFL

You just going to play if off are ya?

Admit you're wrong and move on.

How hard can it be? If you're MAN enough...

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9355460)

I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong. Don't cop out now. You are the one losing credibility. Do I have to cite every quote to show you are pussing out?

hitsmaqe, post a link to the split stats. Let me see the rankings.

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Originally Posted by Rambozo (Post 9355465)

Don't cop out now. You are the one losing credibility. Do I have to site every quote to show you are pussing out?

hitsmaqe, post a link to the split stats. Let me see the rankings.

ROFL

Use Google ****face. I found them on ESPN AND NFL.com.

Furthermore, why do you care what the rankings are? Gonna try to move the goalposts again.

Let's recap:

You said Andy Reid's offense didn't throw the ball deep until the got fast WRs.

As the 20+ yard attempts CLEARLY shows, you're wrong.

Seriously, own up or go away.