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staylor26 03-22-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16870138)
The offense struggled pretty hard when Kemp had to play...

And I'm pretty sure Veach and Andy noticed.

The Franchise 03-22-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16870142)
Going into the draft last year they had absolutely nothing in terms of young talent outside of Hardman.

Toney and Skyy haven't even scratched the surface yet. They will add more young talent this year in the draft regardless of whether they add Hopkins or OBJ. You're just being impatient and irrational.

It's not irrational to question what the hell they have planned.

MVS is inconsistent. Toney hasn't proven he can be counted on for an entire season and Moore is a complete unknown. Right now...that's all they ****ing have.

Mecca 03-22-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16870144)
Do you really think they'll take a WR in the first? With this class? And considering the talent at other position groups? I'm not so sure they will and can't really blame them if they don't.

I've been pining for a 1st round WR for years now. This just doesn't really seem like the draft class for it. Looks like a bunch of 2nd round guys to me.

Depends, I think there's 3 guys who could be instant starters after that it gets kinda rough.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16870138)
The offense struggled pretty hard when Kemp had to play...

Sure, but my point being is that they simply may feel the position is less important than in years past.

Mecca 03-22-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16870146)
It's not irrational to question what the hell they have planned.

MVS is inconsistent. Toney hasn't proven he can be counted on for an entire season and Moore is a complete unknown. Right now...that's all they ****ing have.

The have the broken dick's of the Ross brothers.

staylor26 03-22-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16870144)
Do you really think they'll take a WR in the first? With this class? And considering the talent at other position groups? I'm not so sure they will and can't really blame them if they don't.

I've been pining for a 1st round WR for years now. This just doesn't really seem like the draft class for it. Looks like a bunch of 2nd round guys to me.

They will if they don't add somebody like Hopkins or OBJ.

Seems like Addison is more likely to make it to 31 every passing day.

At worst, you're looking at a guy like Corey Davis and a 2nd round pick like Marvin Mims or Tyler Scott.

staylor26 03-22-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16870146)
It's not irrational to question what the hell they have planned.

MVS is inconsistent. Toney hasn't proven he can be counted on for an entire season and Moore is a complete unknown. Right now...that's all they ****ing have.

He's not just questioning it. He's making assumptions that they are prepared to do absolutely nothing at the position. He's bringing up 0 TDs to a WR season as if that's what we're looking at. How is that not irrational?

Mecca 03-22-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16870150)
They will if they don't add somebody like Hopkins or OBJ.

Seems like Addison is more likely to make it to 31 every passing day.

At worst, you're looking at a guy like Corey Davis and a 2nd round pick like Marvin Mims or Tyler Scott.

Which is weird because Addison is the guy I'm most confident can be a day 1 starter.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16870142)
Going into the draft last year they had absolutely nothing in terms of young talent outside of Hardman.

Toney and Skyy haven't even scratched the surface yet. They will add more young talent this year in the draft regardless of whether they add Hopkins or OBJ. You're just being impatient and irrational.

I don't think looking at our $9M in cap space and looking at what OBJ wants, and what Hopkins GETS and may want, and what we've offered in the past and drawing the conclusion that the $$$ may not work is being irrational.

They'll add more young talent, not in disagreement on that.

Will it be a 1st round WR? Meh, idk about that. I don't even care all that much tbh because i honestly don't think there's enough separation between the 1st round guys and the 2nd round guys.

Chief Pagan 03-22-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16870137)
They've since then realized Mahomes can win championship games with Marcus Kemp.

The receiving room is in the 3rd season of a talent slide. We're a long ways away from the Legion of Zoom.

You want Mahomes to finish with more rushing yards and more hits than Josh Allen?

staylor26 03-22-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16870152)
Which is weird because Addison is the guy I'm most confident can be a day 1 starter.

Hey, if the NFL wants to get worked up about his testing, by all means...

I like JSN a little more, and also think he can be ready to start day 1, but he's obviously not making it to 31.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16870151)
He's not just questioning it. He's making assumptions that they are prepared to do absolutely nothing at the position. He's bringing up 0 TDs to a WR season as if that's what we're looking at. How is that not irrational?

I never said, not once, that they'll do "nothing". Simple math suggests they have to do SOMETHING.

I'm leaning into the idea that they really do think Toney/Moore are the solution here, and the guys they add will be depth behind them.

I bring up the 0 TD WR season because it's an example of how Reid has settled for crumbs at the position before.

staylor26 03-22-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16870154)
I don't think looking at our $9M in cap space and looking at what OBJ wants, and what Hopkins GETS and may want, and what we've offered in the past and drawing the conclusion that the $$$ may not work is being irrational.

They'll add more young talent, not in disagreement on that.

Will it be a 1st round WR? Meh, idk about that. I don't even care all that much tbh because i honestly don't think there's enough separation between the 1st round guys and the 2nd round guys.

You're ignoring that they can create more space, and restructure with Hopkins.

Clearly nobody else is offering OBJ what he wants either. It's the market this year. It's not like everybody else is throwing 15 mil at OBJ while the Chiefs are lowballing him by 10 mil.

ToxSocks 03-22-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16870156)
You want Mahomes to finish with more rushing yards and more hits than Josh Allen?

Do I want that? No. Of course not.

Im very much a, "give him every weapon you can" guy. I'm just not sure the Chiefs feel the same way, or they may feel that Moore/Toney ARE the weapons he needs.

O.city 03-22-2023 05:10 PM

You wanted a first round wr? Ok that’s Toney

You wanted a 2nd rounder ? That’s moore

At some point you need them to play to that level


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