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SnakeXJones 08-04-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6917621)
I wonder if the Royals will finish poorly enough to have the #1 pick.

The Orioles are locked for #1 Pick

alnorth 08-04-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6917621)
I wonder if the Royals will finish poorly enough to have the #1 pick.

no. They are tied for 5th-worst, but Pittsburgh would be hard to catch for 2nd-worst. Being worse than Baltimore (11 games worse) would be damn near impossible at this point, especially given their division and ours.

Sure-Oz 08-04-2010 10:50 PM

Royals will **** up the #1 pick anyway

DeezNutz 08-04-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6917619)
I don't know if next year is going to be it... but the payroll is probably going to take a dip once we start getting some of these prospects up and playing. Just the nature of it. Although if all we're going to do is sign guys like Guillen and Kendall and Farnsworth maybe we're better off spending the money somewhere else.

There's no question that will happen. However, it will be inexcusable if we don't make legit efforts to supplement the young talent with a high-quality FA acquisition or two.

And where is the proof that Moore can effectively evaluate ML talent? Soria? Ok. But there's far more evidence to the contrary.

BWillie 08-04-2010 11:50 PM

Who are the notable free agents available in 2011 and 2012 as of right now?

KevB 08-05-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6917609)
Tonight's Minor League Report:

Did I miss anyone?

He's a long way away, but Lane Adams at Idaho Falls is worth watching. He's an outfielder drafted out of an Oklahoma high school last year (20 years old). 6'4, 190 and an excellent basketball player (several D1 scholarship offers). I've read he's probably as close to a 5 tool OF we have in the system except perhaps P. Orlando.

duncan_idaho 08-05-2010 06:15 AM

I'd be hesitant to spend much on this year's FA crop. They can make a run at Crawford, but that ain't gonna happen. Werth is dangerous in my opinion. Cliff Lee is going to be a Yankee. I would have to look at the FA class again, though, beyond that.

I would be OK with locking up Butler and possibly DeJesus, then spending wildly in the draft (this class is loaded).

Losing into the no 3 draft spot would be nice. That would guarantee being able to get one of Purke, Rendon or Cole... All of whom would be a better use of 6 million than a middling FA, in my opinion.

ChiTown 08-05-2010 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6917701)
There's no question that will happen. However, it will be inexcusable if we don't make legit efforts to supplement the young talent with a high-quality FA acquisition or two.

And where is the proof that Moore can effectively evaluate ML talent? Soria? Ok. But there's far more evidence to the contrary.

This.

He has shown a penchant for developing the Minor League System. However, that does not make one an effective Major League GM. He has given us PLENTY of evidence to the contrary. My personal opinion............he is in WAY the **** over his little pin head.

DeezNutz 08-05-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6917837)
I'd be hesitant to spend much on this year's FA crop. They can make a run at Crawford, but that ain't gonna happen. Werth is dangerous in my opinion. Cliff Lee is going to be a Yankee. I would have to look at the FA class again, though, beyond that.

I would be OK with locking up Butler and possibly DeJesus, then spending wildly in the draft (this class is loaded).

Losing into the no 3 draft spot would be nice. That would guarantee being able to get one of Purke, Rendon or Cole... All of whom would be a better use of 6 million than a middling FA, in my opinion.

What do you mean by "making a run" at Crawford?

First, I agree with the overall premise that the FA class is weak. But I'm throwing serious cash at Crawford (6/108, opening bid) and Adam Dunn (3/45, opening bid).

We have a better chance at Dunn, obviously, but I'd want to try to keep the deal to 3 years, if at all possible.

Demonpenz 08-05-2010 08:40 AM

you have to give dayton some credit on Pods. He is having a good year, and was flipped for young players

Sure-Oz 08-05-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6917906)
What do you mean by "making a run" at Crawford?

First, I agree with the overall premise that the FA class is weak. But I'm throwing serious cash at Crawford (6/108, opening bid) and Adam Dunn (3/45, opening bid).

We have a better chance at Dunn, obviously, but I'd want to try to keep the deal to 3 years, if at all possible.

You have to grab Dunn, he can get on base and well jack 20+ hr's easy

DeezNutz 08-05-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6918063)
You have to grab Dunn, he can get on base and well jack 20+ hr's easy

Dunn would make a lot of sense for this team. Put him at #4 and then Butterball's fat ass doesn't need to worry about muscling up, and MooseTacos can hit 6-8 in the order and not feel like he has to be a power guy.

Plus, it would be nice to see the all-time HR record fall...

Dunn's career OPS+ is ****ing 133. What is that worth? I'm starting at 3 for 45 and willing to go 3 for 54 or 4 for 60.

CaliforniaChief 08-05-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6918071)
Dunn would make a lot of sense for this team. Put him at #4 and then Butterball's fat ass doesn't need to worry about muscling up, and MooseTacos can hit 6-8 in the order and not feel like he has to be a power guy.

Plus, it would be nice to see the all-time HR record fall...

Dunn's career OPS+ is ****ing 133. What is that worth? I'm starting at 3 for 45 and willing to go 3 for 54 or 4 for 60.

Agreed. And we can have someone in the HR Derby at the K in 2012.

Adding him would give us a respectable order:

1. De Jesus (CF)
2. Aviles (2B)
3. Butler (1B)
4. Dunn (RF)
5. Kila (DH)
6. Moustakas (3B)
7. Gordon (LF)
8. Pena (C) Lucas May?
9. Colon (SS)

And wait for Hosmer to take Kila's place, Myers to take Pena's.

siberian khatru 08-05-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6918071)
Dunn would make a lot of sense for this team. Put him at #4 and then Butterball's fat ass doesn't need to worry about muscling up, and MooseTacos can hit 6-8 in the order and not feel like he has to be a power guy.

Plus, it would be nice to see the all-time HR record fall...

Dunn's career OPS+ is ****ing 133. What is that worth? I'm starting at 3 for 45 and willing to go 3 for 54 or 4 for 60.

I'm a Dunn fan too, but who was it here a year or two ago arguing vociferously that most of Dunn's production doesn't really count because it comes when his team is way ahead or way behind? I just couldn't buy it -- when you have THAT many walks and THAT many HRs, a lot are going to help you. But he was pretty adamant that Dunn was a statistical mirage.

DeezNutz 08-05-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6918094)
Agreed. And we can have someone in the HR Derby at the K in 2012.

Adding him would give us a respectable order:

1. De Jesus (CF)
2. Aviles (2B)
3. Butler (1B)
4. Dunn (RF)
5. Kila (DH)
6. Moustakas (3B)
7. Gordon (LF)
8. Pena (C) Lucas May?
9. Colon (SS)

And wait for Hosmer to take Kila's place, Myers to take Pena's.

I like the order. I would like to be able to flip Gordon and Kila, though. You make a great point about the All-Star Game. Excellent point and one that should be a very real consideration for Moore and Glass.

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 6918100)
I'm a Dunn fan too, but who was it here a year or two ago arguing vociferously that most of Dunn's production doesn't really count because it comes when his team is way ahead or way behind? I just couldn't buy it -- when you have THAT many walks and THAT many HRs, a lot are going to help you. But he was pretty adamant that Dunn was a statistical mirage.

I'm not remembering that...Like you, though, I don't buy it. If I know someone is going to hit 35 HRs, I'll take my chances about when they come. But Dayton doesn't understand the value of the walk, so there's little chance we'll pursue Dunn.


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