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The main thing I disliked about Oblivion was the main story, which paled by comparison to the awesome guild quests. Going through the portals to the hell island/tower things got old quickly, and whever too many NPCs were involved in a fight the game just went full reerun. I'm hoping these issues will be addressed.

Beyond that, I really enjoyed it, right up until the day I burned out right in the middle of Shivering Isles and never played it again. But I had played it for hundreds of hours before that. I guess I'm sort of the opposite of Pants, I love games like this - wandering, exploring, completing all the side quests, scraping together enough points to advance to the level. The endless quest to level up always drives me more than anything.

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 8075988)

There was not enemy scaling - that's what I'm saying.. Skyrim is reported to be like Fallout in that aspect

Ah, gotcha.

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8076015)

No, I agree with you, I love that part too. It was just that after the level and the gear were maxed, the game was over for me. I enjoyed it up to that point. My problem is that it was over before I was even half way through the main plot. Maybe I didn't pace myself right, I don't know. Oblivion could be so awesome if they added a looting system like the one Blizzard games employ (they have different rarities and improve as you level).

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8076002)

Sandbox games are awesome, I like them a lot. I like RPGs because I like leveling my character up and making tough choices about how I want to go about it. I like getting better gear as I level up and I like progressing through an epic story. Oblivion failed to deliver on leveling and itemization, the story sucked too. I could deal with a flat story as long as you give me a reason to keep going (ala Diablo II). I could deal with a weak leveling system and weak itemization if the story is awesome (see Mass Effect), but I can't deal when all that is missing. I lost all interest in Oblivion once I was max level with the best possible gear and I knew there was no more advancing. The story wasn't enough to make me want to keep playing.

I guess maybe that's why I liked WoW so much. It was endless character progression (first by leveling, then with loot) but the game also gave you a sandbox world which was like on ocean compared to Oblivion's puddle.

I'm sort of the opposite. I can handle crappy sandbox gameplay and progression if the story is good enough (Morrowind, which I played for hundreds of hours...) but if the story sucks and the combat is boring and the environment is brutally repetitive (Oblivion, and for me Fallout 3, which started great (best character creation sequence ever IMO) and then completely went in the pot - although I did like it more than TES4) I'll check out...

So for me, I think it's primarily about story (most important) and then gameplay (combat, primarily). I can grind away endlessly if the combat is fun. Character progression I'm kind of OCD about, but it's not what drives me to play.

I will play some other genres if I like the story, too, most recently Dead Space and Dead Space 2. Both of which were awesome.

Reserved my copy this evening - I'll be there with the rest of the dorks to pick it up Thursday at midnight.

I've been playing a lot of Fallout New Vegas over the last couple days. The PS3 crashes are the ****ing worst. It crashes every 2 hours. I hope that they got there shit together for Skyrim.

Going to be awesome to have full on battles with frickin dragons and having to avoid them, watch them destroy cities, etc.

Thursday night can't get here fast enough....

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8063270)

elder scrolls games should never touch an xbox :mad:

What the **** ever. 11 years later you're bringing this up? What's the last console you've owned?

Why is the 360 being shown as the leading platform for Skyrim? Shut up.

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 8080535)

What the **** ever. 11 years later you're bringing this up? What's the last console you've owned?

Why is the 360 being shown as the leading platform for Skyrim? Shut up.

Because people are idiots.

Elder Scrolls experience on a PC is vastly superior. Better graphics, and hundreds of mods that improve the game.

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8080781)

Because people are idiots.

Elder Scrolls experience on a PC is vastly superior. Better graphics, and hundreds of mods that improve the game.

It's time for an old fashioned NERD-OFF!!!!

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8080781)

Because people are idiots.

Elder Scrolls experience on a PC is vastly superior. Better graphics, and hundreds of mods that improve the game.

Really they are all PC's, just that the 360 and PS3 are stripped down PC's circa 2006 and are way behind the times.

And you can't run mods, which might be the most important thing.

Like battlefield 3, I'll have to get this one for the 360 and then buy the PC version later on when I get a decent gaming PC. Bethesda makes double their money off me.

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8076015)

Well said sir. I could not agree more. The main story in Oblivion was so repetitive for me, I just did the guild quests and gave it up. Skyrim, on the other hand, this game is gonna sap all my free time.