Arguing for another 5 tech makes you more reeruned than Saccopoo.

He doesn't have the ability to be a Heisman favorite. Never did.

Peyton Manning didn't win the Heisman. Neither did Roethlisberger. Neither did Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Matthew Stafford, Alex Smith, Matt Hasselbeck, Kurt Warner, Kyle Orton, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Matt Schaub, Tony Romo, Jason Campbell, JaMarcus Russell, etc.

Guess none of them are elite, either.

Easy Mecca, let's not go too far ROFL

Says the guy who says Jared Allen will be the next Aaron Schobel...Uh huh lol

Matt Leinart was a great college player surrounded by great talent...but I find it pretty telling that as the heavy favorite to take over as the SC QB after Palmer that Cassel absolutely folded.

So you want to use 3 straight top 5 picks on the same position, seriously. Think about how stupid that is.

I don't care whether or not he was supposed to beat out Leinart or how many starts they had. Leinart was better, probably the best USC ever had. Cassel wasn't as good as Leinart at USC, and I'm not arguing otherwise. I just don't see how you could fault Cassel for not winning the Heisman.

it's pretty well known that winning the Heisman trophy has no correlation with how well they will do in the NFL. In fact, one could argue that there is a correlation with winning the Heisman trophy and NFL failure. That's pretty much common knowledge though.

My point exactly. So why, of all things, is that being used against Cassel?

I fault guys for not winning jobs they are suppose to win, that tells me about them as people.

This would be like if after Chase Daniel had gone pro for Missouri, Blaine Gabbert got beat out by the guy that was behind him. The other thing that really really speaks to Cassel as a player is that once he was beaten out by a player who was only a RS Sophomore at the time knowing he'd never play, he decided to play TE instead of transferring to a school where he'd get to play...

There's a lot of very bad signs in that.

I have no idea. But I missed that part of this thread and I'm not going back to read it :D

Berry or Clausen ... depends on what the real scoop is on Clausen.

Weis should know

If we take Clausen then i will take it as a indicator that Clausen isn't a spoiled brat and Weis believes he has the mentality for the NFL.

He had his chance to start for one of the best college programs in the nation that was right at the beginning of it's turn around, it would have made his career and he folded and was content to ride the pine.

This is the guy that's suppose to lead our franchise?

How's Leinart doing in Arizona?

All He needs is 150 million dollars worth of pro bowlers around him to make him a great QB /Cassel nuthuggers.
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