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Hammock Parties 12-17-2010 02:52 PM

We haven't significantly improved, and last week's game is proof, as is the total collapse of our run defense.

If we were significantly improved we wouldn't have gone into San Diego and laid down like the 2009 Chiefs.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7265848)
Okay, so the Chiefs' win doesn't count because Bowman played like crap in the second half.

But the Chargers win counts in spite of Croyle playing like worse crap in the first AND second half.

Got it.

I think it's pretty obvious Bouman cost the Jaguars that game. They were in it until he self destructed.

The Chiefs were getting their asses kicked on both sides of the ball for the entire game against San Diego. Huge, huge difference.

Coogs 12-17-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265844)
I think we can all agree there's a difference in an injury to a starting QB vs a tight end or a wide receiver.

The Chiefs blew out the Jags because Bouman couldn't do crap in the second half of that game.

The Chargers blew out the Chiefs because they were a legit better team.

Clear?

So Chiefs beat San Diego with Rivers... and that does not qualify as a legit win?

Yet the Bolts beat the Chiefs with Croyle at the helm, and that does qualify as a legit win... but when the Cheifs win over Jax with Bouman QB'ing it does not. :hmmm:

Ming the Merciless 12-17-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265853)
We haven't significantly improved, and last week's game is proof, as is the total collapse of our run defense.

If we were significantly improved we wouldn't have gone into San Diego and laid down like the 2009 Chiefs.

You would have to be blind or reeruned to not think that we have improved as a team. To be talking about playoffs with 3 weeks to go.....To have 8 wins so far, and be guaranteed a .500 season....You seriously have to be an idiot or just completely ignorant to believe that the 2010 Chiefs are not an improvement over the last few years....Oh wait, you're both...Carry on.

chiefzilla1501 12-17-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265853)
We haven't significantly improved, and last week's game is proof, as is the total collapse of our run defense.

If we were significantly improved we wouldn't have gone into San Diego and laid down like the 2009 Chiefs.

Last year, we don't beat anybody. Good, bad, ugly, testicular cancer ugly. This year, we're clubbing the bad teams, heavily competing with the average to slightly below average, and we got clubbed once by one of the hottest teams in football in a game where we didn't have our starting QB and subbed in a guy who threw for less than 50 yards.

That's significant improvement.

Norman Einstein 12-17-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265844)
I think we can all agree there's a difference in an injury to a starting QB vs a tight end or a wide receiver.

The Chiefs blew out the Jags because Bouman couldn't do crap in the second half of that game.

The Chargers blew out the Chiefs because they were a legit better team.

Clear?

What's clear here is that you can say Jacksonville lost because Garrard wasn't there but when the Chiefs lose Cassel it's because SD was better?

That's sticking your foot in your mouth again.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7265870)
we got clubbed once by one of the hottest teams in football

Whoa, what?

The same team that lost by 15 points on their home field to the Oakland Raiders a week before?

Sorry, but the Chargers are not that good. But as the Broncos showed us...

Norman Einstein 12-17-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265875)
Whoa, what?

The same team that lost by 15 points on their home field to the Oakland Raiders a week before?

Sorry, but the Chargers are not that good. But as the Broncos showed us...

Let me get this straight, everyone sucks but the Chiefs suck worse?

JFC dude, get out of here.

Norman Einstein 12-17-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265831)
Really? What's this, then?

It shows the fact that you should be on your home website doing whatever it is that you do there.

I tried to log in there and my login is not working. Did you ban me there?

chiefzilla1501 12-17-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265859)
I think it's pretty obvious Bouman cost the Jaguars that game. They were in it until he self destructed.

The Chiefs were getting their asses kicked on both sides of the ball for the entire game against San Diego. Huge, huge difference.

The Jaguars were not running the ball well that game. Their defense played like shit. Todd Bouman was the only reason the Jags were in that game. The Chiefs dominated the Jags in every facet of the game but the pass defense.
At least Todd Bouman gave the Jags a half. Brodie Croyle didn't even give the Chiefs a minute.

By the way, at this point, Cassel > Garrard. Bouman >> Croyle. The QB gap is far more significant. It's not like Garrard is head and shoulders better than Bouman. Far from it.

Croyle played negatively. Jamarcus Russell negatively. Don't act like Croyle starting didn't have any impact on the game. We still don't know how the Chiefs would have fared with Cassel in the lineup. Different gameplan, different game if the Chiefs convert for first downs, rested defense. We don't know.

Coogs 12-17-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7265878)
Let me get this straight, everyone sucks but the Chiefs suck worse?

JFC dude, get out of here.

Clearly he is pulling for the Rams this Sunday. :shake:

Hammock Parties 12-17-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7265884)

I tried to log in there and my login is not working. Did you ban me there?

Yes, Tom. Go away.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7265886)
Todd Bouman was the only reason the Jags were in that game.

Shows you how fraudulent the Chiefs are. And as we saw, a real QB like Philip Rivers was no match.

chiefzilla1501 12-17-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265875)
Whoa, what?

The same team that lost by 15 points on their home field to the Oakland Raiders a week before?

Sorry, but the Chargers are not that good. But as the Broncos showed us...

It's funny that you're still trying to act as if the Broncos game somehow defrauded this team.

Teams are allowed to have bad games. That was the first game all season where the Chiefs were not competitive. And they came back and beat the Broncos, despite continually shooting themselves in the foot.

Or that the Oakland game is somehow significant. The Chargers are good. They are arguably the most talented team in the league. With good coaching that gets them motivated to play week in and week out, they are easily Super Bowl favorites. When they are motivated to play, they are simply unstoppable. "When."

Coogs 12-17-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7265899)
Shows you how fraudulent the Chiefs are. And as we saw, a real QB like Philip Rivers was no match.

Dude. We beat the Chargers with Rivers.


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