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Rams Fan 02-10-2011 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7423256)
From all I have heard true or untrue, the story is Stl has to offer what is considered the biggest $ to keep AP. If that's his groups stance they can die in a fire.

I understand them wanting to be paid appropriately but he also wants to be on a contender.

If he wants to be a Cardinal and be on a contender he has to leave room for other top players while being the highest paid guy on his club not necessarily in MLB.

Anything else puts his own wants before team needs. He is already wealthy beyond need x100 and will be rich forever with a reasonable top $ deal.

Your legacy is what you do, not what you get $. Being the #2 or 3 $ maker in baseball is no shame. Even if you are the #1 player.

This is as bad as the NFL CBA BS.
Well said.

Rams Fan 02-10-2011 09:45 PM
BTW, I think Albert could sign for $25 mil. and have up to $5 mil. in incentives.

jd1020 02-10-2011 10:00 PM
The Cardinals ****ed up with the Holliday contract. Whether or not they decide to pay Pujols they are in a lose-lose situation. If they pay Pujols they'll have to say good bye to their rotation. If they don't pay him they have to say good bye to the best player in the league.

IMO, I'd say good bye to Pujols. You don't win in the playoffs with a mediocre rotation.

Take it from a Cubs fan.

Rams Fan 02-10-2011 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7423292)
The Cardinals ****ed up with the Halladay contract. Whether or not they decide to pay Pujols they are in a lose-lose situation. If they pay Pujols they'll have to say good bye to their rotation. If they don't pay him they have to say good bye to the best player in the league.

IMO, I'd say good bye to Pujols. You don't win in the playoffs with a mediocre rotation.
The Cards have $43 mil. coming off the books over the next two seasons if they don't pick up any options. That's a lot. And it's not the Holliday contract that's hurting the Cards, it's the Lohse contract.

WV 02-10-2011 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7423298)
And it's not the Holliday contract that's hurting the Cards, it's the Lohse contract.

And that one hurts a lot in many ways.

Marcellus 02-10-2011 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7423298)
The Cards have $43 mil. coming off the books over the next two seasons if they don't pick up any options. That's a lot. And it's not the Holliday contract that's hurting the Cards, it's the Lohse contract.
Don't worry he is healthy this year.:rolleyes:

BigRedChief 02-10-2011 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7423306)
Don't worry he is healthy this year.:rolleyes:
ROFL

BigRedChief 02-10-2011 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7423298)
The Cards have $43 mil. coming off the books over the next two seasons if they don't pick up any options. That's a lot. And it's not the Holliday contract that's hurting the Cards, it's the Lohse contract.
You can't replace pujols but we can still afford a top ten payroll. We won't ever suck like the late 70's again.

Marcellus 02-10-2011 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7423365)
You can't replace pujols but we can still afford a top ten payroll. We won't ever suck like the late 70's again.
I really really want Pujols resigned but, we can not resign him and win the WS, which is the ultimate goal.

We have won 1 in the last 10 years with him, many other teams have won without him.

I want him to be a Cardinal for his career but if it gets to be too much, so be it. More $ for other players as long as they pay it.

Oh yea, and as long as he doesn't become a Cub.

Rams Fan 02-10-2011 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7423382)
Oh yea, and as long as he doesn't become a Cub.
If he goes to the AL(any team besides the Red Sox or Yankees), I wouldn't feel that bad.

BigRedChief 02-10-2011 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7423382)

Oh yea, and as long as he doesn't become a Cub.
A pox upon your heirs for such a thought.

BigRedChief 02-10-2011 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7423264)
If they don't resign him they are the biggest idiots in the world.
I agree.

jd1020 02-10-2011 10:53 PM
The Cubs have alot of money coming off the books next year. They could afford him and Hendry is dumb enough to offer such a contract but if he isn't a Cardinal next year he'll probably be an Angel or Met.

Rams Fan 02-10-2011 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7423396)
The Cubs have alot of money coming off the books next year. They could afford him and Hendry is dumb enough to offer such a contract but if he isn't a Cardinal next year he'll probably be an Angel or Met.
No way he'll be a Met. The owner is being sued and the Angels just traded for Wells. Not happening.

BigRedChief 02-10-2011 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7423396)
The Cubs have alot of money coming off the books next year. They could afford him and Hendry is dumb enough to offer such a contract but if he isn't a Cardinal next year he'll probably be an Angel or Met.
I think you make your money back On the 300 million from marketing, jerseys, ticket sales and value of the franchise. He's going to start to break records in The next few years. It's a marketing blitz waiting to be leveraged. I could see he cubs doing it for that reason.


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