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kysirsoze 09-07-2011 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7885980)
15 games in Cold Weather Stadiums after thanksgiving in 12 years. a Colts fan admitting his greatest snow game of all time was against the 4-11 Bills while playing for nothing since they were already locked into their seed. I didn't enjoy admitting Peyton was one of the best ever to play the game,
but you guys gave me some serious Anti Peyton ammunition tonight. the tradeoff was well worth it.

He may not be able to control where he plays and when, but you have to admit his stats would not be nearly as high if he played in Foxboro like Brady or Lambeau like Favre. You and all the other Manning fans know it. He's still great, don't get me wrong. But not nearly as great as others.
I forgot to mention.... No one but you said this. Bearcat said that is his most recent, not most memorable or greatest. Also, is Bearcat a Colts fan?

kysirsoze 09-07-2011 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7885996)
and he used to play with the Bills and patriots and jets, before he was conveinently moved in 02. not trying to support a conspiracy just sayin
If there's a conspiracy, it's to make it easier for the Colts and the Patriots (the two most consistently great AFC teams with the best QBs) to make the playoffs and make the NFL more money.

tk13 09-07-2011 08:14 PM
Are we really saying that the Colts were moved out of the AFC East because they didn't want Manning to play snow games?

Backwards Masking 09-07-2011 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7885979)
And I wonder how many outdoor games in cold weather cities Atlanta has played in the same timeframe.
id bet my bottom dollar its more than 15. how many post thanksgiving games did Favre and Brady play outdoors in the same time frame?

Qb's are going to put up bigger numbers and complete more passes under a roof than are outdoors. thats a fact.

Mannings a great QB, but I highly doubt he'd have the same numbers playing in Arrowhead.

Backwards Masking 09-07-2011 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7886003)
Are we really saying that the Colts were moved out of the AFC East because they didn't want Manning to play snow games?
not at all, i AM however saying that Peytons playing conditions (which I've admitted ad nauseum are out of his control) have contributed to better stats than if he had played in an Arrowwhead of Soldier Field all of his career.

I suppose im a conspiracy theorist for saying that too....

Bearcat 09-07-2011 08:16 PM
The Titans number is 4 cold weather stadiums in 6 years... .66/year (away games).

The Pats is 1.42/year over the past several years.

The Pats need to see if they can start playing in the AFC South. :shrug:

Bearcat 09-07-2011 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7885997)
I forgot to mention.... No one but you said this. Bearcat said that is his most recent, not most memorable or greatest. Also, is Bearcat a Colts fan?
No, just procrastinating.

Backwards Masking 09-07-2011 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 7886014)
The Pats need to see if they can start playing in the AFC South. :shrug:
Can you imagine how much better Brady's #'s and wins would be if they did? Holy crap! :drool: The Manning / Brady argument would never exist at all if that were the case.... not because the East has been stellar (its been as medicore as the South ) but because Brady's already fantastic #'s would be even more fantastic with 9 guaranteed indoor games a year like Manning's benefited from.

kysirsoze 09-07-2011 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7886011)
not at all, i AM however saying that Peytons playing conditions (which I've admitted ad nauseum are out of his control) have contributed to better stats than if he had played in an Arrowwhead of Soldier Field all of his career.

I suppose im a conspiracy theorist for saying that too....
Nope. You're a conspiracy theorist for saying this...


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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7885432)
Yeah, yeah, I know Manning apologists, Peyton doesn't control the schedule. But that's my point, whoever does makes sure Manning is NEVER put in a position to play in bad weather, EVER. And that, to me, makes him look like a giant p*ssy when compared to Favre, Brady, Bradshaw etc.. I guess it bothers me that a sure fire Hall Of Famer QB is exempt from playing in snow. Kinda like it bothers me his O Line is exempt from False Start too.

Or did you forget?

Bearcat 09-07-2011 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7886003)
Are we really saying that the Colts were moved out of the AFC East because they didn't want Manning to play snow games?
YES!

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 7885533)
It was a brilliant plan by the NFL, actually.... put the young Manning & the Colts in the AFC South, and schedule division games late in the season. "It's all about division rivalries and fighting for a spot in the playoffs" ....the fans will eat it up. BUT!!!! The real reason is so Peyton Manning can spend his Decembers in Houston and Jacksonville.

Yeah, I'm sure the other AFC SOUTH teams play a bunch of games in NYC and Cleveland and Buffalo in Dec/Jan. :doh!:

And I guess if you want actual games, you can go all the way back to January of 2010, or wait a few months when they go to Baltimore & NE in back to back weeks in December.

Backwards Masking 09-07-2011 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7885997)
I forgot to mention.... No one but you said this. Bearcat said that is his most recent, not most memorable or greatest. Also, is Bearcat a Colts fan?
Since you're bringing this up without providing a better example yourself, it now serves as yours, in addition to his, best choice as Manning's Greatest Snow Game. You've both had three plus hours to come up with something better, yet you haven't, because you can't.

Backwards Masking 09-07-2011 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7886019)
Nope. You're a conspiracy theorist for saying this...





Or did you forget?
Paranoid, but not wrong... at the end of the day, they've played 15 cold weather stadiums post Thanksgiving in 12 years. TWELVE YEARS!!!!!

BigMeatballDave 09-07-2011 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7885775)
It's a losing battle. Some people are just Manning haters and there's nothing to be done about it. I understand there are some legitimate concerns and I get why many people don't think he's the best ever, but a lot of people are so butthurt about losing to him all the time, they refuse to accept that he's one of the greats.
Stupid. This hasn't got shit to do with it.

I call Manning a play off choker because it's what he is.

I don't give a **** about his stats. Think about how many times he shit himself in the post-season. He's the reason the Saints have a SB win.

Bugeater 09-07-2011 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7886004)
id bet my bottom dollar its more than 15.
And you'd lose that bet.

Total # of outdoor games in cold weather cities from 1998-2010:

(drum roll...)


7

CONSPIRACY!!!!1

Frazod 09-07-2011 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 7886031)
Stupid. This hasn't got shit to do with it.

I call Manning a play off choker because it's what he is.

I don't give a **** about his stats. Think about how many times he shit himself in the post-season. He's the reason the Saints have a SB win.
It's even worse if you consider that he had every ref in the league in his ****ing pocket, and his offensive linemen were allowed to hold on every play.


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