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Pujols signs w Angels (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=253437)

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8181080)

I'll believe it when I see it. LA is a Laker's market first, anyway. If Howard gets traded to LA, Pujols will be the 3rd dog in that town immediately, maybe even 4th behind Griffin. And if the Dodgers were worth a damn, he would possibly slip to 5th behind Kemp.

If Angels fans are really sprinting to the ballpark to see a declining .299 hitter, I'll be shocked. He hasn't built up the goodwill in the LA area that he has in STL. If he doesn't come out and live up to that contract, they simply aren't going to care. They're going to spend their money on Kobe and Griffin. If the Dodgers come back strong, they'll spend it there. And the California economy is going to crater; it really doesn't have a choice with the deficits you fellas run out there.

If he comes out there and plays like he played during his prime, you're absolutely right - the fans will come; I've conceded as such. However, if he plays like he played in 2011 - i.e about as well as Kendry Morales did in 2009 - the shine will come off that contract in a hurry.

You can cite 'Fernandomania' all you want - as long as you admit that it lasted all of one season. By 1983 he was just another pitcher and Dodger fans went right back to showing up in the 3rd inning. In 2003, the year after they won the WS, the Angels drew about 85% of their capacity, (the Cardinals, OTOH, put over 2K per game over their stated capacity of 46,000 in 2007).

The LA area fans have no attention span to speak of. Every season, Moreno has to get the Angels fans a shiny new bauble to convince them to come out to the park. In 2004, it was Guerrerro, in 2005 it was Colon, in 2006 it was Jeff Weaver, in 2007 it was Gary Mathews, in 2008 it was Torii Hunter, in 2009 it was Bobby Abreu, in 2010 it was Vernon Wells.

Really? Baseball town? Every season your owner has to go out there and throw a bunch of money at a declining player to keep you folks involved. The year after the Angels won the World Series, they had the audacity to only win 77 games and suddenly you people couldn't get 38,000 people to come to the ballpark.

Spare me - if he's great and the Angels win, fans will come out. If he sucks, Angels fans will do what Angels fans have always done - they'll find something else to do.

Wow you sure are angry and spewing shit about a city you know nothing of really. Its a town that can have 2 baseball teams within an hour of each other in MARKET #2. Angel stadium has 43k every home game, 3 mil every year the last 10 years or so. The bad players, Vernon in paticular have more to do with idiot GM and he has been wiped out. I get that you are unhappy with losing Albert, but being a ****ing asshole about it is unbelievable, especailly since I was being respectful and civil...but now--GO **** YOURSELF!

DJ's a little high strung. However, I like it. And besides, it's not often I get to be the voice of reason. :D

I wonder if he'll have the ****ing guts and class to do what he should do: take out a full page ad thanking the fans in St. Louis.

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8181168)

DJ's a little high strung. However, I like it. And besides, it's not often I get to be the voice of reason. :D

At least until the next post from L.A. ShitDick, that is.

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 8181191)

At least until the next post from L.A. ShitDick, that is.

Good point. LMAO

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8181139)

Was anything I said inaccurate?

You put 37,000/gm in your stadium the year after you won the World Series. The Angels have never put 43k/game in their stadium and last year put in just a hair over 40K/gm.

Did I lie about a single one of those signings? As to your assertion that all those bad signings were the result of 1 bad GM - try again, sport. Most of those signings were made by Bill Stoneman, the same 'idiot' GM that showed up in 1999 and built that Angels roster into a Champion. Stoneman is a very respected baseball man operating at the behest of Arte Moreno. Tony Reagins, the 'Idiot GM' of whom you speak, is only responsible for a couple of them. And Jerry DiPoto probably just got some blood on his hands through CJ Wilson, if nothing else.

Is LA not a Lakers town first? Do Dodgers fans not show up in the 3rd inning? Was Valenzuela not fairly irrelevant starting in 1983?

Go ahead and refute any of these points. I've done my homework on it - have you?

I was extremely civil in my response. I presented you with fact after fact after fact. Your response is both fictional (43K/game, 1 GM screwed us up, blah blah blah) and hysterical.

Enjoy your new shiny baubles.

The best part of the story: The word "angles" is now a trending US topic on Twitter because there are too many morons in this country who can't spell.

If I'm DeWitt, this is what I do:

Wait until Pujols retires, then call him back the next year for an unveiling of his statue in front of Busch. Right after unveiling it, to a lusty press corps and scattered applause, you pull the mother****er over like the statue of Saddam and let Cards fans take their turns with a plasma cutter and sledgehammers.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8181250)

Pujols made DeWitt a LOT of money. Then he ended up making DeWitt look like the good guy when he bolted.

DeWitt has no reason at all to hold a grudge against Albert Pujols. Remember, DeWitt and crew bought the franchise for less than they sold the parking garages that came with it for. They got the Cardinals essentially for free.

They've turned an operating profit all but something like 3 years during his tenure and the merchandise sales alone of the playoff, pennant and WS runs are astounding.

And Pujols did all this at a well below market rate.

Pujols is probably still one of Dollar Bill's favorite people in the world. At the very least, he should be.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8181260)

I'm not saying DeWitt should be doing it for himself, I think he should do it for the fans who were patronized and lied to for 11 years.

Pujols owes the organization essentially nothing. He owes the fans a damned good explanation for why he ended up being such a duplicitous one who sucks the penis.

One of the stltoday columnists raised a good point - considering the much higher tax rate and cost of living are in Los Angeles, Pujols probably won't be bringing home much more cash than he would have had he stayed in St. Louis.

Another thing, for a rich and famous multi-millionaire parent - he may regret moving his kids to a place where they'll be BFFs with the next generation of Lohans and Cyruses.

I'm not mad.

I would have loved for him to spend the rest of his career in St. Louis, but it isn't going to happen.

This also frees up $20 million in payroll over the next 10 years, which can help the Cards in the long run.

Short term, they should be okay.

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8181139)

The Angels haven't put 43k in the stadium for quite a while.

Hate to see the guy go, and quite frankly feel a little betrayed.

The same way Packers fans felt when Favre gave way to Rodgers, I'm sure.

Just goes to show you never know.