Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8739611)

Dream Scenario:

Bowe Holds out during the preseason which gives Baldwin a chance to develop

Bowe signs 1 year tender and comes back for game 1 of regular season

Stanzi wins the start QB job in preseason

Stanzi,Bowe,Baldwin,Breaston go on to lead the league is passing yards

Charlis and Hillis both break 1000 yards rushing

Chiefs shatter the dreams of the 72 dolphins by have a perfect season

Chiefs win the Super Bowl

Bowe is so happy with this season that he signs a reasonable long term contract in the offseason.

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8739614)

You said Chiefs and Superbowl :hump:LMAOLMAO:LOL:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8739603)

Anyone not named Brodie Croyle or Tyler Palko is an upgrade over Cassel at QB.

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8739590)

PFF has graded Cassel higher than Orton in 2008, 2010, and 2011.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8739605)

Heh 3 years. How convenient.
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8739617)

at least i know how to dream


unlike that moron goatboy

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8739586)

Cassel: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CassMa00.htm

Orton: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...O/OrtoKy00.htm

Cassel has a higher TD% and lower INT%. And he has a higher QB rating.
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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8739709)

Hey, just thought I'd club the baby seal some more.

Matt Cassel throws over 20 yards:

2008 – 8 for 38 – 21 percent
2009 – 16 for 55 – 29 percent (thank you Chris Chambers for snagging those underthrown jump balls)
2010 – 10 for 44 – 23 percent
2011 – 9 for 30 – 30 percent

Now compare him to a guy who is just “OK.”

2008 – 18 for 57 – 31.5 percent
2009 – 19 for 48 – 39.6 percent
2010 – 26 for 63 – 41.2 percent
2011 – 4 for 11 – 36.3 percent

That player? KYLE ORTON.

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 8739810)

Pioli doesn't budge. The only position you potentially overpay for is QB. And Pioli's worst fear is coming true with Cassel that he is trying to prevent. Common sense at that point would then dictate that you go ahead and overpay Bowe to help prevent your worst nightmare.

But an even worse nightmare would be to have Cassel to continue to suck with Bowe not performing up to his contract let alone being married to his longterm contract. Pioli doesn't doubt Bowe's ability for a second. But what Pioli does doubt in a second is Bowe's character and integrity to the game and to himself. Pioli doesn't trust him because he figured out about Bowe a long time ago with all the little red flags along the way that Bowe is a quiet 'premaddona' whose ego is waaaaaay to big for the KC small market.

If Bowe had Rice or Fitz talent and integrity to the game Pioli has this deal done a long time ago.:thumb:

Bowe is good but he ain't no Fitz or Rice.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 8739810)

Pioli doesn't budge. The only position you potentially overpay for is QB. And Pioli's worst fear is coming true with Cassel that he is trying to prevent. Common sense at that point would then dictate that you go ahead and overpay Bowe to help prevent your worst nightmare.

But an even worse nightmare would be to have Cassel to continue to suck with Bowe not performing up to his contract let alone being married to his longterm contract. Pioli doesn't doubt Bowe's ability for a second. But what Pioli does doubt in a second is Bowe's character and integrity to the game and to himself. Pioli doesn't trust him because he figured out about Bowe a long time ago with all the little red flags along the way that Bowe is a quiet 'premaddona' whose ego is waaaaaay to big for the KC small market.

If Bowe had Rice or Fitz talent and integrity to the game Pioli has this deal done a long time ago.:thumb:

Bowe is good but he ain't no Fitz or Rice.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8739817)

Thanks for your contribution.

After reading that tripe, I'm going to watch Sesame Street so I can get a more intelligent perspective on things.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8739815)

How does Bowe have an ego problem? Dude does stuff for the fans, stays after practice, works his butt off, and has no criminal record. He's the ultimate team player that Pioli likes.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8739603)

Anyone not named Brodie Croyle or Tyler Palko is an upgrade over Cassel at QB.

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8739623)

yep, that's how i see it.