Agreed. This D played well against Rodgers, Rivers, Peyton, even Brady in Foxborough for a stretch. All of those games besides Manning was without Berry. We can beat teams with elite QBs.

add Ben to that list. But, but, but they can only slow down bad QB's. Fail.

And? The Chiefs swept you sorry assholes 8-0 during the Vermeil and Herm years.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It's just really raw and undeveloped.

Chimpionship always trolls until something bad happens to his Faiders, then he runs and hides. We won't see much of him this season.

We were 2-4 against a weaker division in 2010.

And came very close to getting swept.

Thats kind of what I was thinking.....

And last year, with a crappy depleted team we were close to winning every game.

3-3 in division.

Tim Tebow, Kyle Boller and a ****ing miracle!

Big shock that we lost the other games.

You need to let it sink in: we have the worst QB in the division. That gets you beat most of the time.

They didn't prove that on the field last year, and they haven't proved that this year..... yet, so until then.. it's all unicorns and glitter for Chief fans

And spare me the injury crap.. the Raiders lost both their RB and QB too, as well as WR's etc and finished higher than the Chiefs.. in fact they beat the Chiefs in week 16 in Arrowhead, Chiefs had every opportunity to win that game and didnt

Yes they did. You only mentioned the blocked field goal game, not the 28-0 game, so they did prove it on the field, and spare me the Boller, and Palmers first game crap.

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

What?

We won that game solely because of Kyle Boller.

Our offense wasn't good.

The Raiders own us hard the last two years. We need to PROVE otherwise. Not this "lololol we have talent bros" bullshit.

I dont give a fart in the wind about Palmer, oakland is a team in serious transition, brand new from the top down & missing several key players from years past... they're pretty much entering the same phase we went through with Piolis arrival & institution of a brand new program.

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

I maintain the Chiefs D was on that day, and the Raiders would have been out of luck at full strength. Boller was awful, Palmer was awful, our D was really good.

And yet the Chiefs routinely beat the Chargers once a year and the Ravens consistently make the playoffs (I'd take Ruthlessraper and even Andy Dalton over Flacco).

While the Chiefs absolutely need to find a true Franchise QB, it's ridiculous to state they'll lose every game in which they face a superior QB. That's simply not the case.

I didn't say we would lose every game against superior QBs.

But generally speaking, the team with the worst QB in a given division isn't winning that division.

And Cassel enjoys losing to inferior QBs from time to time, too.

We'll be no better than 3-3 against the AFC West.