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chiefzilla1501 09-16-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8918734)
but I was talking TALENT added by Pioli only in terms of drafting.

Any GM could add a veteran like Orton and our momentum last season was carried by a core group of guys that WERE NOT drafted by Pioli. And I am saying that talent will slowly start to leave the Chiefs (i.e. like Carr) and Pioli in 4 years has done a poor job to replenish their voids with playmakers of equal value.

Who will replace Bowe, Albert, Dorsey? Who replaces Carr? These are answers Pioli has done a poor job of addressing and next offseason will be the biggest test if it blows up in his face

We have 2 terrific RBs. A solid receiver corps including a superstar as our #1. We have two solid receiving tight ends. And to boot, we saw behind Kyle Orton that behind a real QB, the offensive line is actually very good at protection -- they gave up ONE measly sack last year in Orton's 4 games.

Our offensive talent isn't all-world. But are you seriously going to tell me that John Harbaugh and Alex Smith couldn't turn this offense into an efficient one? Or an average coach and Aaron Rodgers couldn't?

As for our defense, we saw how good they were. But those were the days when our defense wanted to hit people in the mouth. Now they look too finessed. And the moronic decision not to hire a DC is killing us. Don't know if you saw Merrill Hoge's analysis on ESPN where he was showing how our players were constantly getting picked off in 1-on-1. DJ looks unfocused. Hali looks out of shape. And we went from starting a veteran nose tackle to a rookie who we know is going to take 3 years to develop.

If you replace Romeo with Harbaugh, put Romeo back into a DC role, and changed Cassel to at least a top 10 QB... are you really going to tell me this team isn't a serious contender?

The Franchise 09-16-2012 08:32 PM

The fact that ANYONE can defend this shit team right now is the reason why it is how it is today.

True fans can go **** themselves.

Baby Lee 09-16-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8918706)
Whitlock was right, yet people here flamed him.
Posted via Mobile Device

Let's not overstate things, Whitlock wasn't ripping Pioli for his assembly of talent or coaches. He was ripping Pioli for the way he treated the media and Haley. Those things MAY prove to be related, but that's not definitively established at present. Whitlock could have been JUST AS RIGHT about Pioli with us coming off our 2nd SB win by now and no one would care.

chiefzilla1501 09-16-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918761)
You are damn right.

I was thinking the same thing today. Vrabel got a raw deal getting traded to KC and he busted his ass. The dude never quit and was a pro. It's their job to play hard.

Also, the problem with Palko was that Haley obviously thought he was good enough to be the back up QB. He chose to go with Palko in that role rather than having Pioli get someone. It's part of what got him fired imo. He was a Pitt guy and Haley ate that shit up.

That is absolute bullshit.

Pioli called all the shots. Why would ANYONE think Haley had the power to tell Pioli not to add a 4th QB?

As I've said a million times, it would be one thing if Pioli brought in 4 QBs in a competition and Haley picked Palko in the top 3. That didn't happen. And it's more than fair to ask if there is truth to Gretz's accusation that Pioli was purposely holding back talent so Haley would underperform.

GloryDayz 09-16-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8918788)
The fact that ANYONE can defend this shit team right now is the reason why it is how it is today.

True fans can go **** themselves.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO I think I can see where you're coming from!

Sure-Oz 09-16-2012 08:38 PM

I can't wait till Pioli is fired...this team is way too talented to play this poorly.

Seriously, look at the RAVENS for a front office guy

petegz28 09-16-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 8918820)
I can't wait till Pioli is fired...this team is way too talented to play this poorly.

Seriously, look at the RAVENS for a front office guy

The problem is we keep getting sold marketing propaganda, remember when Clark first took over it was we were going to be like the Steelers. Then it was the Patriots. How about you put a team together and go out and make your own mark?

Easy 6 09-16-2012 08:42 PM

Dear God... its like rooting for the Cubs, its never going to pay off.

FAX 09-16-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8918761)
You are damn right.

I was thinking the same thing today. Vrabel got a raw deal getting traded to KC and he busted his ass. The dude never quit and was a pro. It's their job to play hard.

Also, the problem with Palko was that Haley obviously thought he was good enough to be the back up QB. He chose to go with Palko in that role rather than having Pioli get someone. It's part of what got him fired imo. He was a Pitt guy and Haley ate that shit up.

I'm not sure you can sell the idea that Haley could "tell" Pioli to do anything ... including, but not limited to, acquiring a different backup quarterback.

I'm wondering, though, Mr. BlackBob ... It seems as though you are posting on here quite a bit. Apparently, you have a great deal of time on your hands. Are you currently involved in a relationship with a significant other? Are you married? Do you have a girl- or boy-friend that is particularly special?

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DaneMcCloud 09-16-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8918829)
The problem is we

We?

JFC, Pete.

Rain Man 09-16-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 8918820)
I can't wait till Pioli is fired...this team is way too talented to play this poorly.

Seriously, look at the RAVENS for a front office guy

My problem with that is that Pioli acquires the players. He doesn't coach them. If we have a highly talented team that is playing poorly, that's a pretty clear indication that Pioli is doing his job and the coaches aren't. (Obviously, Pioli hires the coaches, so that's eligible for complaint.)

Dayze 09-16-2012 08:46 PM

I heart Fax. Welcome back. CIA mission?

Ace Gunner 09-16-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8918866)
My problem with that is that Pioli acquires the players. He doesn't coach them. If we have a highly talented team that is playing poorly, that's a pretty clear indication that Pioli is doing his job and the coaches aren't. (Obviously, Pioli hires the coaches, so that's eligible for complaint.)

You ought to know by now this is Pioli's show top to bottom, left to right, candy wrapper to candy wrapper.

OnTheWarpath15 09-16-2012 08:48 PM

Akili Smith was talented. He didn't pan out. You have to have talent just to get to this league.

People are going overboard with this "talented team" bullshit.

It may appear talented on paper, but looks far from it on the field, and that's where it matters.

FAX 09-16-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8918866)
My problem with that is that Pioli acquires the players. He doesn't coach them. If we have a highly talented team that is playing poorly, that's a pretty clear indication that Pioli is doing his job and the coaches aren't. (Obviously, Pioli hires the coaches, so that's eligible for complaint.)

There's the additional problem of acquiring players that are ill-suited for the type of scheme we run, Mr. Rain Man.

Dorsey, for example, would likely be a household name by now had he been drafted by a team that would allow him to penetrate.

Personally, I think there is sufficient justification for tying Dr. Evil to a tree and drenching him with cat urine.

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