Brown's atrocious preseason outings against St. Louis and Seattle justified finding more depth at that position. At this point, all signs point to Brown becoming O'Connell 2.0.

Signing Routt as a replacement knocks the depth argument out of the equation.

Especially when you figure the comp pick into the equation.

No, it doesn't, not after Brown's horrendous outings in preseason. There is not one excuse that justifies Reeves starting position in game one.

Totally disagree.

Brown isn't there yet, but he has the talent to get to the point of being a quality #2 corner.

Regardless of his "potential," we are losing legitimate games because of his current lack of "quality."

24-40, 17-35.

If those results aren't indicative of Pioli's embarrassing lack of attention to the Chiefs secondary, I do not know what is.

Reeves is garbage and you won't find me defending him or why he was kept...but if it weren't for stacked injuries he wouldn't have ever gotten on the field except for special teams.

Flowers
Brown
Menzie

When you have stacked injuries like that...especially at corner...it's gonna get ugly for any team.

The sad part is that Daniels should have been the one out there after those guys went down.

That's a major head scratcher for me.

We had the cap room and ability to acquire more talent at corner in the offseason, with the knowledge of Flowers and Menzie's injuries before the preseason, (as well as Daniels new position.) Pioli's oversight on the secondary is nothing short of a humiliation for the team.

The Bills completed 10 passes and I bet we held Ryan to one of the lowest passing totals he will have all year, even though he roasted us.

Those scores are largely because of poorly timed turnovers.

Cassels fumble and first pick (along with the missed fg) knocked us out of the Atlanta game when it was a close contest up until that point.

Cassels fumble and Hillis fumble while going into the endzone killed the buffalo game...NOT secondary depth...we couldn't contain Spiller and we turned the ball over at inopportune times.

Jeez people, let's try to remain at least somewhat objective.

It sucks losing good players, but it happens to every team in football.

Menzie went down in preseason not before and the pickings at corner were very slim outside of Drayton Florence.

It is what it is.

To be fair, they didn't need to throw. But as of right now Jalil Brown is not a viable option to come in and start at the cb position, I went to the preseason game against Seattle and he looked absolutely horrible.

I would argue that this is moreso a result of our half-ply running defense, rather than any considerable achievement of our secondary. I also question the effect the turnovers truly had on the outcome of the game. While Hillis' fumble was a momentum breaker, Buffalo drove down the field more or less uncontested in four of their drives on Sunday.

Sigh, I can agree with you there. :(

How about a big healthy dose of crow man? What you said was bullshit and you should man up and apologize.

We kept the wrong guy. He is a #1 CB and he should have been in KC.
He's always been a better cover guy than Flowers. Also, Flowers quit growing a couple of years ago and Carr hasn't stopped. He is still an ascending player.

It's that stupid 2-3-6 scheme. We are relying on that scheme too much. With Lewis out, Daniels has to play safety. Romeo needs to trash that formation because it is killing us on so many levels.

The Chiefs should bring in Eric Hicks to mentor everyone on being ok with an 0-4 start.

How do you feel about the 2-3-6 defensive scheme, Mr. BlackBob?

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Surely you are forgetting a couple keys to these beatdowns. Spiller had like 60 yards rushing during the first qtr alone and just knifed through the line at will, so there really was no reason to throw the ball a lot.

Secondly, you know damn well this defensive backfield is more than one step down from what this team had last season -- even with Berry gone. They are undermanned back there, to say the least. I haven't seen that much confusion in this team's secondary since back when Herm was coach.

Third, QB's have all day to throw on the Chiefs, so there's that. It hasn't been this way in years. Tamba makes this defense look respectable when paired with Carr/Flowers. I know this will change some as the season progresses, but I don't think this defense will look as good as the did last year. They had deficits at the safety position, but the other three players did a good job keeping order much of the season.

This looks nothing like the defense we've seen recently and it's not the "new coach". The players are mentally breaking down. They are football stupid, some of them and that is showing up in spades this season because they are so full of themselves, they think they can just freelance this defense and be golden. Heh. Not. Gonna. Work.