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SAUTO 01-01-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265282)
Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

I think you are spot on here
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ShortRoundChief 01-01-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9265169)
The official logo of people on this message board who cry "Don't panic over crappy results in the preseason, it means nothing towards predicting regular season results".

FAIL.

Dude. It's the second day of the offseason for us. The first day was the firing of the head coach and a statement from the owner that the current GM, if he's retained, will have an insignificant role.

A week or 2 into it I would start to worry. Not the second day.

WildTurkey 01-01-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9265295)
I think very similarly. Clark's deadlocked on getting Cowher right now.

Yep. Cowher seems to be exactly who he was talking about in his interviews yesterday

ShortRoundChief 01-01-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9265295)
I think very similarly. Clark's deadlocked on getting Cowher right now.

I got no love for the chin. Just a short term solution.

ArrowheadMagic 01-01-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265282)
Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

Plausible, just have to wait this shit out and see what happens.

aturnis 01-01-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9265262)
I don't believe the Ferentz garbage, but I do expect Pioli (not Clarke's ll hire one of his cronies to HC this team next season. They are going to hunker down another season.

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

They'll likely keep Gary Gibbs at DC running the 34, let him pick and choose his staff and figure in the new OC & staff on that side of the ball. I am hopeful the ST coach was RC's guy, because he was no good for this ST unit.

That's about it. As for whether I'd be turning my back on the Chiefs if I find out Clark is lying -- omitting the truth during an explanation is lying in my book -- Clark's sidestepping comment with regard to Pioli was a ****ing lie -- as of this point, Clark is fine with Pioli continuing to run football operations for the team.

Unless I see evidence Clark was not lying, I'll go with Clark is a big ass liar -- just another dishonest "businessman" and we all know the new rule$ on greed post '80's. He ain't the first liar we've been around and really, it's sports -- not like it effects me much. I stopped giving the Chiefs my financial support a year ago. Hell, what Goodell and all the owners have done to this game bothers me more.

But hey, if you're gonna lie, try and be clever about it. I do get annoyed at stupid lies.

This is so ****ing drivel. LOLWUT? Why would you notbbelieve Clark is interested in running the Chiefs the way they do it in Pittsburgh?

What on earth makes you think Clark sidestepped Pioli questions?

Bowser 01-01-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265282)
Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

This pretty much mirrors how I feel right now, right or wrong.

Ace Gunner 01-01-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9265274)
So, you don't believe Clark?

Why is that?

JMO Dave. Everybody knows Pioli ****ed up and needs to pay the price.

Any expert could analyze that video -- bet he would say Clark was lying during the Pioli questioning.

Bowser 01-01-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 9265309)
Plausible, just have to wait this shit out and see what happens.

That's the worst part, especially with a rabid fanbase that wants answers/solutions yesterday at the latest.

aturnis 01-01-2013 05:07 PM

I don't see Cowher as a solution...

DeezNutz 01-01-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265282)
Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

Yep.

aturnis 01-01-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9265319)
JMO Dave. Everybody knows Pioli ****ed up and needs to pay the price.

Any expert could analyze that video -- bet he would say Clark was lying during the Pioli questioning.

Lying about what? That Pioli's future with the Chiefs is yet to be determined?

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9265295)
I think very similarly. Clark's deadlocked on getting Cowher right now.

I just hope that Clark isn't so deadlocked that if Cowher declines, that we don't get royally ****ed and end up with some slapdick out of desperation. Sound familiar?

Cowher just makes too much sense.

Clark's been talking to Marty. You know Marty is going to bat for Cowher, and doing the same for Clark to BC.

Clark has a hard-on for all things Steelers.

Cowher fits the criteria Clark laid out yesterday to a T.

Cowher immediately fills Arrowhead, or at least comes close - certainly brings in more fans than any other possible hire.

Cowher wants total control, and based on Clark's comments yesterday, he's looking for that type of HC.

The question is, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching?

Hammock Parties 01-01-2013 05:10 PM

The fact we have heard literally 0 reports from the media on Gruden or Cowher is interesting.

Carl was also in KC on Monday, according to a fan post on AP.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265346)
I just hope that Clark isn't so deadlocked that if Cowher declines, that we don't get royally ****ed and end up with some slapdick out of desperation. Sound familiar?

Cowher just makes too much sense.

Clark's been talking to Marty. You know Marty is going to bat for Cowher, and doing the same for Clark to BC.

Clark has a hard-on for all things Steelers.

Cowher fits the criteria Clark laid out yesterday to a T.

Cowher immediately fills Arrowhead, or at least comes close - certainly brings in more fans than any other possible hire.

Cowher wants total control, and based on Clark's comments yesterday, he's looking for that type of HC.

The question is, how bad does Cowher want to come back to coaching?

again with a post that is spot on
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