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pugsnotdrugs19 01-31-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Royals (Post 12719418)
Oaklands sitting at $46 million in cap space for this upcoming year. They can get to above $60 million with cuts to three players that made less than no impact for them on the field. Year after that they have upwards of $80 million in space.

It's pure fantasy to think that they're just magically going to get worse once they have to pay two players. They have tons of space to sign Carr, Mack, and whoever else they want.

I don't think he's saying that they won't be able to sign anyone or anything like that, but Oakland will be the first team in the league that I can recall to have to pay elite QB money to two players....

From the sounds of it, Carr is due for a $125 million type of deal, and Mack is going to approach Miller's $114 million. That eats a shit ton of your cap. If you are drafting well like you are supposed to, a lot of your money has to be saved just to retain your own players, likely ending the days of making splashes like Oakland has the past couple years in FA.

At the end of the day, every team's goal should be to draft good players and use your cap space to keep them. Unfortunately, the Raiders are finally on that track.

DaneMcCloud 01-31-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Royals (Post 12719418)
Oaklands sitting at $46 million in cap space for this upcoming year. They can get to above $60 million with cuts to three players that made less than no impact for them on the field. Year after that they have upwards of $80 million in space.

It's pure fantasy to think that they're just magically going to get worse once they have to pay two players. They have tons of space to sign Carr, Mack, and whoever else they want.

:facepalm:

That's worked out well for the Seahawks, right?

Carr and Mack will cost the Raiders a minimum of $40 million per year - maybe closer to $45 million. They'll need a left tackle because Penn is breaking down and old plus Amari Cooper's deal will be coming up soon. Their secondary is old and pretty much sucks, along with the rest of their defense. They'll need to hit on picks and if they don't, they'll need to reach into free agency, which isn't cheap when it comes to solid cornerbacks and safeties.

They face a shit ton of challenges but none more important than facing a first place schedule along with uncertainty of where the team will actually play their games.

RunKC 01-31-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12719410)
Losing Bailey and DJ really hurt our run defense

Losing DeVito and Mauga were big losses there as well

Mr. Laz 01-31-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12719466)
You always say this but how many safeties can consistently defend the sidelines while playing single high? The field is like 52 yards wide. That's a shit ton of ground to cover.

They have be able to read the offense and the QB to get a good jump

That takes experience at single high that Berry doesn't really have yet.

DaneMcCloud 01-31-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12719468)
Unfortunately, the Raiders are finally on that track.

Well, it's much easier to do so when you're picking in the Top 5 every year, as opposed to the Bottom 5.

McKenzie's certainly had his share of misses, like pretty much the entire 2012 draft, their first rounder in 2013 and not very much production on the back end of their drafts.

temper11 01-31-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12719052)
Instead we're stuck with a **** stick like Alex Smith and are left with the realization that we have almost no chance of things being better unless absolutely everything goes our way.

Absolutely everything? Chiefs can't advance with Smith unless absolutely everything goes their way?

Absolutely nothing went the Chiefs way in that game against Pittsburgh. Nothing. And yet you lost to the great and almighty Ben Rothlesburger by 2 points. Ben's receivers didn't drop easy passes, Ben had a running game that ran all over you all game, Ben was barely even hurried let alone touched all game... and this a QB that can barely move even when he's not coming off some kind of foot injury... and yet he won by 2 points - 2 points. And he even needed the refs to help him out with that at the end.

You hate Smith and want a QBOTF - fine. I hope to hell the Chiefs draft a stallion with their first pick so everyone can stroke a few out, but pretending that the Pittsburgh game is evidence that the Chiefs can't advance because of Smith is ridiculous. Nothing went right consistently enough offensively in that game. Smith made great throws that could have saved them but also missed a few opportunities that cost them. Kelce made a few great plays, but dropped a crucial catch and lost his head on a different play that cost them. Maclin made a few great plays, but dropped a few crucial ones. The Oline did a decent job, but the times in which they buckled were very costly. No running game to speak of... etc. etc. If any ONE of these things go the other way, Chiefs likely win. Just one.

Hammock Parties 01-31-2017 01:06 PM

Even if the Raiders have to pay Carr and Mack, that still puts them far ahead of the Chiefs.

We have no franchise QB or elite pass rusher on this roster.

We have Alex Smith and a busted-ass Justin Houston.

DaneMcCloud 01-31-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12719513)
Even if the Raiders have to pay Carr and Mack, that still puts them far ahead of the Chiefs.

We have no franchise QB or elite pass rusher on this roster.

We have Alex Smith and a busted-ass Justin Houston.

And we're all stuck with a Claynus

The Franchise 01-31-2017 01:09 PM

Houston will be back to his normal self next year. My guess would be 16-18 sacks.

Hammock Parties 01-31-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12719517)
Houston will be back to his normal self next year. My guess would be 16-18 sacks.

I'll believe it when I see it.

We haven't seen "elite Justin Houston" since 2014.

That feels like eons ago at this juncture.

RunKC 01-31-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12719513)
Even if the Raiders have to pay Carr and Mack, that still puts them far ahead of the Chiefs.

We have no franchise QB or elite pass rusher on this roster.

We have Alex Smith and a busted-ass Justin Houston.

Derek Carr has never played well vs the Chiefs. We are his kryptonite

Hammock Parties 01-31-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12719521)
Derek Carr has never played well vs the Chiefs. We are his kryptonite

Just another hurdle he has to get past. He has the talent and smarts to do it, and given that he's improved massively every single season, I wouldn't bet against him.

Mr. Laz 01-31-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12719524)
Just another hurdle he has to get past. He has the talent and smarts to do it, and given that he's improved massively every single season, I wouldn't bet against him.

Then go be a fan of the ****ing raiders, we don't need you.

trash your own, praise the opposition

**** off

Mr. Laz 01-31-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12719517)
Houston will be back to his normal self next year. My guess would be 16-18 sacks.

injured by game 5

DaneMcCloud 01-31-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12719524)
I wouldn't bet against him.

That's because you're ****ing stupid


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