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suzzer99 04-28-2017 10:01 AM
Bottom line: if you think you have a potential franchise QB - it's very hard to give up too much to get him. The only thing is if you miss...

Pasta Little Brioni 04-28-2017 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12844915)
PIMP.
We got our Dark Peniight!

Hammock Parties 04-28-2017 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12845500)
We got our Dark Peniight!
It's White Chocolate Penii. Get it right.

Reerun_KC 04-28-2017 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12845497)
Bottom line: if you think you have a potential franchise QB - it's very hard to give up too much to get him. The only thing is if you miss...
Chiefs have a history of missing in the 1st round, so at least they took a chance to actually try for the first time in decades to win.

We havent drafted a player in the first round that could have the impact of a QB ever...

Mr. Laz 04-28-2017 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12845497)
Bottom line: if you think you have a potential franchise QB - it's very hard to give up too much to get him. The only thing is if you miss...
true

Frosty 04-28-2017 12:35 PM
When the Falcons moved from 27 to 5 to draft Jones, they gave up a 1st, 2nd and 4th that year and a 1st and 4th the next year. So, based on that, a 1st and 3rd with a 1st the next year, seems reasonable to go from 27 to 10.

Ming the Merciless 04-28-2017 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12843833)
I am all for it. Gotta buy a ticket to win it. They took their shot, and it's up to the coaches to get him where they want him.
This.

Even if it isn't a home run, you gotta swing the damn bat....

Hats off to them for trying.

Chiefspants 04-28-2017 01:21 PM
I keep reading that the Chiefs should have only made this move for a "sure thing."

Serious question: Is there such a thing as a "sure thing" QB out of the NFL draft?

Andrew Luck was considered the closest thing to a "sure thing", but it's taken him four seasons to truly find his footing, and there are still many who wouldn't consider him elite.

suzzer99 04-28-2017 01:29 PM
And a guy like Luck comes along once a decade or less.

suzzer99 04-28-2017 01:31 PM
Wasn't JaWalrus supposed to be pretty close to a sure thing? Jeff George? Ryan Leaf? Who else am I forgetting?

PAChiefsGuy 04-28-2017 01:52 PM
Reid knows what he is doing. He's a good coach when it comes to QBs so I think Mahomes will be fine. If it wasn't for Reid I probably would not approve this trade because it is a huge gamble but with him here the kid should be fine.

Beef Supreme 04-28-2017 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12845963)
And a guy like Luck comes along once a decade or less.
And he goes first overall, and nobody is trading out of the pick.

And look at what Washington gave up for the SECOND best QB prospect in that draft.

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12846078)
And he goes first overall, and nobody is trading out of the pick.
.. and Mahomes isn't a 9-pick behind prospect, comparatively.. and Luck hasn't exactly brought Indy grand success either..

... but what's done is done, and Mahomes will be a fun alternative... so whatevz.. bring it on in 2018.

el borracho 04-28-2017 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12844559)
Value of the 10th pick - 1300

Value of the 27th pick - 680
value of the 3rd pick - 136
Value of 1st next year - unknown

Current Difference is negative 484
Lowest value of any 1st round pick - 590

so as of right now, we are 106 pts in the hole with no possibility of getting to even since you can't pick lower than 32.

To put that in perspective, if we pick in the middle of the 1st round next year, it's the 15th(1050 value) we would be in the negative 566 in trade value.
I'm pretty sure that future picks have less value in the current year. IIRC, the value of next year's 1st is roughly the value of this year's 2nd.

Beef Supreme 04-28-2017 02:33 PM
I don't give a shit what the draft value chart says. Have you ever seen a team move up 17 spots into the top 10 for less?


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