Its almost more important these days to be a better actor than wrestler in the wresting biz.

It helps, you can be the best worker on that roster if you have no charisma or ability to speak you won't be on top.

Dude, her husband is dead because of what he did for this industry. I think she would want to stay away, rather than continue to stay involved and make jokes.

Well you go one way or the other, I doubt she complains about the money she makes for it.

Also: JEFF HARDY IS ****ING reerunED

I'm surprised that I'm surprised.

Vince did the right thing by hiring Vicki. Vicki is supporting her family in the business that Eddie lived and died for. Its a shame Benoit didn't just kill himself first, so Nancy could have gotten the same treatment as Vicki.

That was my reaction as well. I guess I thought that maybe he'd smarten up now that he's gotten the brass to notice his immense popularity and place him in the main event picture. :doh!:

She was awesome. :(

Jesus Christ that still hurts so much.

He's screwed himself as much as anybody possibly could, twice in the last year. Both times when he was probably on the way to a title. I don't see any way they'll ever give him a push again, because one more fail (which everybody knows is just a matter of time) and he's gone.

Even Kennedy didn't fuck up quite that bad.

I thought ECW was pretty bad this week, after a great opening match. Putting Punk against Big Fatty V had to be about the stupidest MitB qualifyer I've ever seen, and, of course, they couldn't let him find a way to win clean, or at least in a way that built him as strong (which isn't a surprise, the way they've been putting Chavo over him).

And no way he wins MitB. If you noticed last night, on the promo shot that had a belt-toting Jericho in the front, the two guys in the back were...MVP (who's inevitably going to lose his belt to Blahtista) and Punk. You could barely even see them behind such greats as Carlito, the afformentioned Kenney, Morrison and Shelton Benjamin. Hell, if you look at that lineup, I don't see how it's going to be a good match this year, anyway. Jericho's the only legit "star". Shelton usually comes through, but there's no edge, no hardy, just a bunch of mid-card guys. And since the winnner gets an "anytime, anywhere, any title" shot, I don't see how they give it to any ECW guys, which means Punk, Morrison and Benjamin are out, unless they've moving one of them to a main show. Carlito? They're not putting a belt on him. That leaves Jericho and (ugh) Kennedy, who won last year as you'll recall, knocking Punk off the ladder. Oh, and MVP.

Anyway, as much as I didn't like the last 45 minutes of ECW, Smackdown last night was all but unwatchable.

I haven't watched much lately. I admit it. I do flip it on every now again and usually stay captivated for no more than 5 minutes. My question is this, why? I have some ideas. Rock, Stone Cold, Angle, and others are gone. Although, there are other guys that could take their place IMO.

I think that they killed wrestling with the brand extensions. They just don't have enough main event quality guys to fill shows. They need to let their top tiered stars run the main events on each show. What do you think? Why is wrestling less watched now? Is it the stars? Is it the brand extensions I mentioned? Could it be stale story lines? What's your opinion?

God damn, imaginary slights ahoy.

Punk's the scrappy face who's been getting screwed by Chavo and is trying to get his title back. Until they have a definitive plan and an opponent for when he gets it back (Morrison's probably headed to Smackdown, and I guess they're not certain of Shelton yet), there's not much they can do beyond keeping him chasing. So he's going to get knocked around a bit. That's essentially the role. Just because Cena loses the week before the PPV doesn't mean he's not going to be coming out on top, you know?

And MITB looks awesome. Jericho, Punk, MVP, Morrison, and Benjamin? Sign me the **** up, regardless of who's going to win and where they're going with it.

No, he's not. I don't know what they're doing, but reality is that he's lost clean twice to Chavo, first at the PPV and then two weeks ago. This goes back a month. No interference, no cheating. Clean pins. They set it up great with all the antics and then have him do the job. To f'n chavo, of all people.

This is Punk in 2008, sad to say. My guess is that they don't know what they're doing with him, either. It's really bizarre. They treat him like he's a star, put his face/shirts on the merch ads, had him highlighted as one of the stars on the promo for last week's 3 hour raw, and then they don't follow through.

I don't know about Morrison going to SD. I know Umaga is, for a longer program with Batista, but I haven't heard anything about morrison. Actually, the most logical move would be Punk. They'd started to set it up for a feud with Edge weeks ago. I know you like him, but at this point, Morrison's a lower midcarder. The fact that he and the Miz have the tag titles shows just how meaningless the WWE thinks the tag division is (who has the other pair, Cody Rhodes and Bob Holly? Or did they lose them?). Anyway, right now, Morrison's just another guy on the C show. Although that trashcan moonsault was great.

(I thought they should've put Delaney and Dreamer over them on Tuesday, I think that crowd would have made it meaningful).

Yeah, the crowd would have exploded if Dreamer and Delaney had won Tuesday night.

And don't even mention a Punk-Edge feud, because it's too awesome to even imagine.

Did they just ****ing break up the Hooliganz?

Their best tag team?

Which hasn't even been on TV as a team in months?

RIP, Londrick.
RIP, tag-team division.

HA HA! YOU LOSE! I stole your delicious Subway sandwich, Jerry Stupid Lawler!

Also, what do you think Paul Heyman would say if you went back to 1997 and told him that, just over ten years from now, Vince McMahon would be caning Ric Flair in a WWF ring before Flair did a table spot from the top rope?

Not as shocked as if you would have told him Triple H would be two weeks away from his 12th World Title

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His pants were pretty rad, though.

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I guess WCW did manage to find people who could pull of the Razor's Edge and Jackknife after all, though.

Oh shit, I remember that.

God, the 90's were great.

The '90s WERE great.

Ringmaster vs Matt Hardy

UP:

300 Casino bucks says you can't find a Terra Ryzin clip.

While I search, enjoy this: Jean Paul Levesque speaks with Gordon Solie on his WCW aspirations (Get a load of the champions they mention.)

Plus Damon Striker (sans God Pyro) vs. THE REAL KILLER on {Pro} (it's no Muddaship, but it'll do)

And this Billionaire Ted spot, which includes Vince Russo talking about disloyal, greedy has-beens. Lesson learned, I guess.

Terra Ryzing ON THA MUDDASHIP

One Night in Larry Land.

I am humbled.

So is Trips.

He probably thought he'd destroyed all those tapes.

On a tonight note, why the fuck do fucking idiotic Jesse and Festus keep showing up on ECW, and why the fuck is Punk teaming with them.

I mean, Shelton Benjamin gets the tag team champs, and Punk gets reeruns.

WTF.

And why the fuck isn't it Delaney and Dreamer with Punk? I guess they need to sell JBL's beatdown (itself pointless, although that's Delaney's job).

I went to transfer cash and got a database error. I'll pay up shortly, or offer my left arm for you to break.

Come on. There's no shame being pinned by Larry Zybysko. After all, he learned from Bruno Sammartino.


LMAO

Shit, it sent 6 hundy? Can I have three back? (All part of my Casino Cash money laundering scheme).

Eh, Jesse's a pretty solid worker and Festus is super over, so I don't have a--BISCUITS AND GRAVYYYYYYY

Hello you have reach Yan Cooking Can! I take orders?

I really hate rednecks...

I know, that sounds funny on a rasslin thread, but what can I say.

Just pretend Jesse is Owen Hart. It's not too hard, and it makes you like him a lot more.

Wow. ECW was really, really, really borizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I confess I've watched rassling for years. So I feel stupid asking you this question. But what does it mean for a wrestler being over? :hmmm:

Put simply, being over means that the crowd gives a good reaction to you. If you're over as a face, the crowd pops (cheers loudly) when your music hits, and so on. If you're over as a heel, the crowd rains down the boos when you show up, and so forth.

So basically it's whom ever they save the good story lines for.

Well, not always. Take Chris Jericho, for instance. He was basically left to his own devices in WCW, and due to his cleverness, charisma, and innate ability to draw incredible heat, he got super-over even as management paid little to no attention to him. The Motor City Machine Guns in TNA are a similar case of midcarders who managed to win the crowd over on their own, without needing much support from the bookers.

On the flip side is someone like X-Pac, after whom "X-Pac heat" was named. People just did not give a shit about him no matter what he was doing. Lots of guys who get nice opportunities still fail to get over due to their own shortcomings or just bad luck.

What ever happened to him? Didn't he start out as the 1 2 3 Kid?

ECW was gawdawful tonight. I hope that battle royal doesn't kill wrestlemania. I can't believe they're giving one of those guys TWO wrestlemania appearances.

And no CM Punk. What's up with that?

He became a hardcore drug addict, gained a lot of weight, started dating Chyna, made a drunken, cracked out appearance on "The Surreal Life", then made a pr0n with Chyna where he pulled out and cummed on her ass, IIRC.

:shrug:

Jesse is Terry Gordy's son, so he's alright by me

Punk's been on RAW the last 2 weeks so maybe he's moving up. Noticed Carlito was on ECW last night so perhaps they made a roster change.

I'm a huge fan of the MCMG. In three weeks I'll be front row for the MCMG vs The Briscoes, part 2 when ROH comes back to Chicago. I saw the original match and if the rematch is just 50% as good as the first, it will still be great. It's really fun watching Shelley and Sabin just cut loose in the ring for 30 minutes. You can really tell they're having fun in there. In TNA, not so much.

I'm assuming he had a MitB preview match on Smackdown. I haven't checked the spoilers, though.

Still can't get a read on MitB. Jericho's the 'safe' pick, but he's already over and established, no need to give it to him. Kennedy won last year, don't see that again. Maybe MVP? I don't think they're ready to give any of the other guys (Punk, Carlito, Shelton, Morrison) a big push quite yet. Bryan Alvarez (f4wonline.com) came up with the idea that Matt Hardy's close to return, so maybe they put him in the match at the last minute and heat the feud with MVP back up.

When they announced the match, I thought maybe they'd somehow sneak Punk back into the 24-man tag (since I don't think he'll win MitB) and give him the win over Chavo, but I think they're going to do something stupid like give the belt to Khali.

I have now. Don't read further if you don't want spoilers.



Punk went over Morrison clean, so he's probably not winning Sunday (usually the guys who win immediately before a PPV don't win the event...).
Jericho won via DQ over MVP, which fits into their usual MO if they're going to give MVP the briefcase, although MVP did win on Monday, so it's a little convoluded.

Apparently Blahtista squashed Snitsky. That seems a little odd. I guess they're really trying to build him up for the Umanga match.

Ron Killings wrestled the dark match, so we may be seeing him sometime in the not-too-distant future.

Killings had one at Raw too.........he's probably going to debut after Mania.

I'm with you, I have no idea about MitB. At this point, I predict they do a do-over and give it to Kennedy, as they were so high on him before his injury/suspension. Jericho doesn't need it (and he already had a title shot right after he came back). Carlito, Shelton and Morrison would make no sense, as no one right now really care about them. MVP makes some sense, but I'd give him a much better shot a year from now. As for Punk, it makes all the sense in the world to have him win it and start a several-months long feud with Edge, but they don't seem to want to give him the ball quite yet either.

They're probably going to need another couple of push-depush cycles with Punk before they trust him enough for such a big push, but the two feuds I would absolutely be overjoyed to see arise from MITB would be Punk-Edge and/or Jericho-MVP. Neither's likely to happen for a while, but they would be glorious.

Hopefully MattVP starts back up again soon, at least.

I just hope they don't give Kennedy the win. I honestly detest that guy; everytime he's on it's pure X-Pac heat from me.

IMPORTANT REMINDER:

iMPACT! is going to be LIVE. That's right, two hours of LIVE TNA. Prepare for the comedy/horror event of the year!

Someone hold me.

Oh God yes, they start the show with a brawl (between Booker T and Robertzzzzzzz Roozzzzz) that started before the show came on the air! Brilliant hook, guys!

INTERACTIVE FAN MATCHES!!!!!!

Johnny Devine is shit.

Oh hey, I guess they killed off Jay Lethal in that vignette.

Robby?! I know the Heat circuit isn't exactly grueling, but why the **** are you at Impact?!

He looked so embarrassed to be there.

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Ditto. He fucking sucks.

I forgot the live TNA, turned it on right as Team 3D gave that bizarre promo.

So you were just in time to see ROBBIE hide his face.

It's a shame this Frank Trigg guy can't just kill Don West and take his spot, because he's actually a pretty decent color guy.

Yes indeed, I saw red-faced Robbie.

Kevin Nash in a sparring session.

Yeah, that sounds realistic.

Sting's back, I'm pretending I give a shit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Smooooooooth, D'Von.

OH MY GOD IT'S STIIIIIIIING

Wait, it's not 1997 anymore? You mean nobody really gives a **** about Sting or anyone in TNA at this point?

Well, I'm glad I watched now, I'd have totally forgotton to watch the new Ultimate Fighter next week.

There's some sort of time dilation that goes on when you watch TNA. I can't believe there are fifty more minutes of this shit.

Also lawl:

I'm actually more surprised that the WWE higher-ups have heard of TNA.

lmao, this could be an interesting night

In real promotion thoughts, I really really really really wish I could spare the FIFTY-FIVE ****ING DOLLARS for Wrestlemania. I'm such a sucker for outdoor PPVs, and to this day I have a spot in my heart for Hog/Road Wild.

Raw sold me on Wrestlemania.

ECW unsold me on Wrestlemania.

Tomorrow's SD decides for me.

God.

Worst. Accent. Ever.

What, you don't think hiring Cheerleader Melissa to wear a burqa and not wrestle was smart?

At least Kong's about to kill someone.

Robbie is screwed because see...

- WWE told its wrestlers at a meeting yesterday to not socialize or be seen with TNA wrestlers over the course of WrestleMania week. WWE feels that TNA is piggybacking off their week by holding special events like tonight's live Impact. Both WWE's Fan Axxess Tour and TNA's Impact take place at Universal Studios in Orlando.

WWE wrestlers were not told to stay away from ROH wrestlers that are also in town for special ROH shows.

Credit: PWInsider.com

Taking the time to point out that one of the F'N HIGHLANDERS came to their show might be the lowest point in the history of TNA.

Someone on another forum offered up this great visual of WWE and ROH guys hanging out, then getting really quiet and trying to shoo the TNA guys away whenever they showed up.

Punk and Morrison work together so much better than anyone in ECW.

Watching SD brings to mind (yet again) the question of why the fuck Chavo Guerrero has the belt.

More on Robbie (who vince sent home today, he isn't working WM) and TNA Management's total incompetence:

So are we all watching Mania?

I'm pretty sure I'm getting it Sunday. Raw was so awesome that I was 100% sold. Then ECW was so fucking bad I thought there was no way. But I don't want to miss Flair's last match, and the BS/FM thing should be one hell of a spectacular. Saw the blurb on SD tonight that was "breaking news" announcing it as no holds barred with win coming from pin, submission or...knockout. rofl.

from prowrestling.com:
I had completely forgotten sydal was in developmental.

The TNA-Robbie thing really was a pathetic move by TNA that made them look more classless than anything. They got no rub from showing a jobber who looked embarrassed to be there, and potentially cost the poor guy his job.

Oh, and another great decision by TNA was this:

Torch contributor Justin Parker sent in the following first-hand report from the site of the Impact taping tonight...

- Just got the word that TNA wrestlers and management invited 700 "VIPs" and they only let about 200 fans into the venue. They probably turned away 700-1000 fans, many of whom were here to sample the product and had waited 4-6 hours. There was a pretty hostile scene with an "F--- TNA" chant breaking out. Not exactly the exposure they were looking for.

Hey, don't sell Burke short, either. He and Punk have amazing chemistry, though they haven't gotten much of a chance to have it since the "He Who Has Been Erased from History" thing.

Just a beltpillow waiting for a suitable champ, I suppose. I really have no ****ing clue where they're going with the battle royal, though. Kane winning the title makes no sense, and beyond that, no one else in the match is really ready to lead a show, even the C-show.

No shock that Mayweather-Show is going to be laid out carefully. Having someone so green try to call a match on the fly in the biggest PPV of the year would be utterly idiotic.

Anyways, someone gimme FIFTY-FIVE MOTHER****ING DOLLARS, okay?

I'm just going to use xtremewrestlingtorrents.net

How bout an invite? Registration is closed.

Burke's a non-entity right now. They're turning him into a jobber.I thought it might be Khali until they had Mark Henry make him look like a bitch tonight.

Watch it be fucking Festus. I'm still waiting for a smart heel to ring the bell mid-match to turn him back into a reerun. Actually, it has to be somebody good enough to put on a WM match with Chavo.

Question is...who the hell is that, out of those 24?