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duncan_idaho 04-29-2014 03:31 PM

If I had a son, he might ask me: "Why is Mizzou going with THIS coaching staff, Dad?"

And I might say: "Because this is the coaching staff Mizzou truefans deserve, but not the coaching staff Mizzou needs right now. So we'll watch them. Because they're going to 'take it' for the next few years. Because Anderson is a true son. Because he was an All-American 40 years ago. He's a D2 National Champion. A nice guy. A clean guy. A True Son."

duncan_idaho 04-29-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10593118)
Aside from sucking in the short-term, this is the type of disastrous hire that makes the overall job far less appealing when the university is looking to fill it again in three years. The program is mediocre now, and I expect it to be bottomed out then.

At one time, the job was hot enough to have a final 3 of Bill Self, John Calipari and QUin Snyder. All three of whom were highly, highly sought after at that time.

Hmm, what has changed since that hire? What is the common factor? :hmmm:

Pepe Silvia 04-29-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10593125)
At one time, the job was hot enough to have a final 3 of Bill Self, John Calipari and QUin Snyder. All three of whom were highly, highly sought after at that time.

Hmm, what has changed since that hire? What is the common factor? :hmmm:

Mike ****head Alden

Ebolapox 04-29-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10593125)
At one time, the job was hot enough to have a final 3 of Bill Self, John Calipari and QUin Snyder. All three of whom were highly, highly sought after at that time.

Hmm, what has changed since that hire? What is the common factor? :hmmm:

:sulk:

duncan_idaho 04-29-2014 03:49 PM

Absolutely stellar post on PM from a very knowledgeable basketball guy, StuBlack, who breaks down every game (good, bad, ugly format) and has connections in high school recruiting/recruiting coverage nationwide.

I dub this the "jizz of truth" post.

Of course there'll be a team either way. There was a team on the court from Mizzou '96 and '97 and '98, too.

The problem is, they sucked. Yes, I said it:

SUCKED.

Tyron Lee was the "best" scorer Mizzou had in the end of that run, averaging an eye-popping 11.4 ppg.

They went 51-47 in those years.

Why? Because they didn't recruit enough good players, that's why. And the second in charge then was the guy, likable and easy to cheer for as he undeniably is, introduced today as the head coach. They improved ONLY when they brought in high-end players, namely Keyon Dooling (who was 100% leaving, had NS stayed) and Albert White. It wasn't grit. It wasn't sealing the borders. It was better players (and both of them were from OUTSIDE the state, to put a kink in the meme that it'll be "all Missouri kids").

I can almost buy the part about having Kim improve the Xs & Os. I truly believe he will. But if his plan is to bring in a staff full of D2 guys, he's doomed to fail. They simply do not have the recruiting chops to bring in high-end talent in-state, let alone regionally or nationally. It's not their fault; they simply do not run in the right circles to have met those people and forged relationships with them.

Perhaps too many of you are too young to remember the last 5 years or so of the Norm Stewart era (and let me state again, for the record, I LOVE Coach Stewart. He IS Missouri Basketball)...but it...here's that word again....

SUCKED.

Coach Kim Anderson is my guy now, because he's the head coach of my alma mater. There's no point debating whether or not he should be, because he IS.

But someone...for the love of Byron Irvin..explain to me how/why you believe a staff of D2 coaches without the contacts with elite prospects is going to magically retain the good recruits we have, let alone seal the borders. The "old Mizzou" model that Stewart built...say this slowly to yourself....DIDN'T WORK with regards to keeping the best players at home.

Now a guy who's within 3 years of the age Stewart was when he was forced out...I mean, when he retired...is going to jumpstart in-state, high-end recruit interest?

What am I missing? I don't mean that to be snide, and I hope I'm wrong....but I just don't see it.

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:08 PM

For when this thread gets bumped a few years from now

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-c...10/eatcrow.jpg

ROFL

confused 04-29-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10593213)
For when this thread gets bumped a few years from now

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-c...10/eatcrow.jpg

ROFL

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TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:18 PM

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Pasta Little Brioni 04-29-2014 04:22 PM

Coach of the Mules ROFL Still....wow

Listening to that makes me listen for a "what the hell Bobby?"

Trevo_410 04-29-2014 04:22 PM

what's the staff look like atm?

kim english?

anthony peeler?

any of those dudes ready?

duncan_idaho 04-29-2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10593213)
For when this thread gets bumped a few years from now

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-c...10/eatcrow.jpg

ROFL

No one will be happier than I will (or other Mizzou fans will) if this works.

But if you look at it objectively, there are many areas of concern.

DeezNutz 04-29-2014 04:38 PM

His voice is intolerable.

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:41 PM

http://youtu.be/Pv20TQBeVGM?t=9m27s

Pepe Silvia 04-29-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10593231)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/tFaKpzmiy8I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

He just dwarfs his wife. ROFL

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:42 PM

all 20 people in the arena were in tears LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-29-2014 04:43 PM

It's just like dumbass truefans pining for Marty. You won jackshit with him so your solution is to go back to an era that yielded nothing of consequence.

I just don't understand why people are so ****ing stupid. This isn't organic chemistry.

Pepe Silvia 04-29-2014 04:46 PM

I have to chuckle when he says "I'm here to win rings." Yeah no.

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10593281)
I have to chuckle when he says "I'm here to win rings." Yeah no.

It's better than saying, I'm here to flee to Tulsa

ROFL

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...y66.St.81.jpeg

Pepe Silvia 04-29-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10593287)
It's better than saying, I'm here to flee to Tulsa

ROFL

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2...y66.St.81.jpeg

Frank Haiths quote from his Tulsa presser was full of fail. "Yeah I'm here to teach them how to pass, how to shoot, how to dribble but we make them great men." Yeah he said that.

stonedstooge 04-29-2014 04:53 PM

So will Rosburg transfer to Tulsa to be a starter there?

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10593293)
Frank Haiths quote from his Tulsa presser was full of fail. "Yeah I'm here to teach them how to pass, how to shoot, how to dribble but we make them great men." Yeah he said that.

LMAO that is too awesome

TribalElder 04-29-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10593299)
So will Rosburg transfer to Tulsa to be a starter there?

I figured he would stay and play 39 min a game

Reaper16 04-29-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10593074)
We will be lucky to ever get a 4* recruit with this clown staff in place. Before long, Missouri hoops will look like Alabama sans Travis Releford.

Having seen plenty of Alabama basketball in recent years...this is the bleakest post in this whole thread.

Discuss Thrower 04-29-2014 05:37 PM

Signing Kim Anderson is like going to Ruth's Chris and asking for day old meatloaf.

kepp 04-29-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10593015)
LMAO

DAT D-2 MAGIC!!

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Pepe Silvia 04-29-2014 10:13 PM

Kim Anderson had me lmao early on in his presser when he said "Apparently I'm old, I really had no idea of that until yesterday and I gotta tell you it devastated me." ROFL Poor guy. I wonder if he read chiefs planet.

KcMizzou 04-29-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10594492)
Kim Anderson had me lmao early on in his presser when he said "Apparently I'm old, I really had no idea of that until yesterday and I gotta tell you it devastated me." ROFL Poor guy. I wonder if he read chiefs planet.

LMAO That's cool. I hope the guy kicks ass. (obviously)

duncan_idaho 04-29-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10593379)
Signing Kim Anderson is like going to Ruth's Chris and asking for day old meatloaf.

Or getting the KC Strip well done and asking for catchup to put on it.

CoMoChief 04-29-2014 11:20 PM

The guy bleeds black n gold...and they needed a coach like that because the previous 2 didn't give a shit about the program or it's "history".

So in that regards MU nailed the HC search.

Only problem is, they traded that aspect of it, for the fact that they're not going to get a lot of talent and therefore they're probably not going to win a lot...which is the point all together. Kim Anderson can win 17-18 games a year with a NCAA tourney appearance every so often and he's not going to get fired. MU will be perfectly happy w/ that.

So I guess you can say that Alden doesn't give a shit about the program, he just did this to shut the mouths of some fans and boosters, while he cares more about the football stadium's add-on and SEC football. Basketball has officially taken the back seat at that school.

GloryDayz 04-30-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10593213)
For when this thread gets bumped a few years from now

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-c...10/eatcrow.jpg

ROFL

I paid-forward your rep!

patteeu 04-30-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10591676)
Here is what we know:
Anderson is an outstanding X & Os guy.
Anderson is a great motivator.
Anderson has no D1 head coaching experience.
Anderson was not an outstanding recruiter previously at MU.

If he can get assistants that can recruit, I could grow to appreciate the hire.

It seems to me that it's way too early to start up the car in the garage and huff on the tailpipe. But I guess that's the culture here.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-30-2014 10:25 AM

Tim Fuller‏@CoachTimFuller·14 mins
MIZ-thanks for all the fans that have supported me over last three years here at the-ZOU. ThankYou to Coach Anderson for the opportunity!!!!

Ebolapox 04-30-2014 10:26 AM

well, I guess that's some good news.

siberian khatru 04-30-2014 10:26 AM

Well, that's one initial move in Anderson's favor.

kepp 04-30-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10595096)
Tim Fuller‏@CoachTimFuller·14 mins
MIZ-thanks for all the fans that have supported me over last three years here at the-ZOU. ThankYou to Coach Anderson for the opportunity!!!!

Does that mean he's staying or leaving? It could point either way.

Sure-Oz 04-30-2014 10:43 AM

I think he's staying

Stanley Nickels 04-30-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 10595113)
Does that mean he's staying or leaving? It could point either way.

The "thanks for the opportunity" is what makes me think he's staying. Otherwise, he'd wish KA all the best.

Stanley Nickels 04-30-2014 10:44 AM

Also, the enthusiasm in that tweet is of a man who just got a nice raise. Let's hope, at least.

Discuss Thrower 04-30-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10594609)
Or getting the KC Strip well done and asking for catchup to put on it.

Yeahhh buddy, then wash that thing down with a large Coke!

Pitt Gorilla 04-30-2014 11:16 AM

Gant is sticking with Mizzou. Assuming Wright stays as well, I'm pretty content.

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10595182)
Gant is sticking with Mizzou. Assuming Wright stays as well, I'm pretty content.

They said that Wright was going to be the easier recruit to keep. Supposedly he has a good relationship with a mizzou guy, I forgot who it was though.

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2014 11:59 AM

Damn, apparently things have changed with Wright, he asked for his release on friday but the school wanted to let Anderson have a talk with him first. Doesn't look good guys. :(

Pitt Gorilla 04-30-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10595291)
Damn, apparently things have changed with Wright, he asked for his release on friday but the school wanted to let Anderson have a talk with him first. Doesn't look good guys. :(

Not saying you're wrong, but I've heard the exact opposite; Wright should stay as well.

TribalElder 04-30-2014 02:16 PM

Kim Anderson retains fuller and gant

Kim will be the patron saint of the true fan

OmahaChief 04-30-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10595547)
Not saying you're wrong, but I've heard the exact opposite; Wright should stay as well.

Eric Bossi reported that he asked for his release but we would not Grant until he spoke with Anderson. I know he is fairly tight with Gant so hopefully that helps.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmahaChief (Post 10595669)
Eric Bossi reported that he asked for his release but we would not Grant until he spoke with Anderson. I know he is fairly tight with Gant so hopefully that helps.

Do you mean Fuller? How would Gant have any relationship with the coach of a DII team?

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2014 02:58 PM

Gant staying is a huge relief and makes me a little more comfortable about the hire. If Wright stays that leaves 3 spots left on the 2014-2015 list, any chance we land a couple more players even if they are 2 or 3 stars? Or is it too late?

GloryDayz 04-30-2014 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10595641)
Kim Anderson retains fuller and gant

Kim will be the patron saint of the true fan

And just like that, we're back in the dance...

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-30-2014 03:49 PM

The team is better off running with a walk-on for a year than wasting a scholarship on some late trash signee.

Do you really want players like Webster Chan, Jankovic, or Bull bloating the roster?

TribalElder 04-30-2014 04:30 PM

Did Kim just break recruiting rules on the drive on 610?

Hope not

nychief 04-30-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10595852)
Did Kim just break recruiting rules on the drive on 610?

Hope not



how?

TribalElder 04-30-2014 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10595866)
how?

Talking about a recruit when Danny Parkins asked about one by name :shrug:

They mentioned it after the segment that the text line said that

I do not know the rules but that would be a huge bedshit LMAO

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2014 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10595880)
Talking about a recruit when Danny Parkins asked about one by name :shrug:

They mentioned it after the segment that the text line said that

I do not know the rules but that would be a huge bedshit LMAO

That would be sooooo Mizzou. ROFL

penguinz 04-30-2014 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10595880)
Talking about a recruit when Danny Parkins asked about one by name :shrug:

They mentioned it after the segment that the text line said that

I do not know the rules but that would be a huge bedshit LMAO

The kid is already committed so he is not a recruit.

TribalElder 04-30-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 10595906)
The kid is already committed so he is not a recruit.

:clap:

Pepe Silvia 04-30-2014 05:18 PM

Good news Penguin.

KChiefs1 05-03-2014 01:52 PM

From the Columbia Tribune:

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Anderson hopes state's best stop running for border

In-state recruits have shunned MU.

David Lee, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush, Alec Burks, Bradley Beal, Otto Porter and Ben McLemore have three things in common. They're in the NBA, they're from the state of Missouri and they did not attend the University of Missouri.

Although the MU basketball program had some good times under three coaches in the last 15 years, Quin Snyder, Mike Anderson and Frank Haith struggled to land the state's elite recruits.

"To not get any of them, I just go back to the most important piece, and that's relationships," said Kirkwood High School Coach Bill Gunn, the president-elect of the Missouri Basketball Coaches Association. "There was a time when I first started coaching when Norm Stewart would have a clinic and everyone in Missouri would go. You just felt that connection. You felt like you wanted your teams to go to summer camps.

"I think you build that respect and build those relationships whether or not you have players. In time, when those players come along, they feel like the University of Missouri is a destination where they want to be, playing for their home state university. I really think they don't have to look far, because Gary Pinkel has been able to do that."

Kim Anderson was tabbed as Missouri's basketball coach on Monday, and by Tuesday he had heard so many pundits question his ability to recruit that he joked about it during his introductory press conference. After spending the last 12 years coaching at the Division II level at Central Missouri, Anderson obviously will have to land higher-caliber athletes at MU. But the reality is he doesn't have a high bar to clear to improve the school's in-state recruiting.

He inherits a roster with only two scholarship players who are Missouri natives — Ryan Rosburg and Cameron Biedscheid — and only Rosburg chose MU out of high school.

The advantage Anderson has over his three predecessors is he arrives at Missouri as an insider. He's from Sedalia, he played at MU and with the exception of a six-year stint as an assistant at Baylor and three years as an assistant commissioner of the Big 12, Anderson has coached in the state since 1982.

Many high school coaches in the state already know him. Hickman's David Johnson, who grew up in Columbia, even recalled playing some pick-up basketball games with Anderson.

"Great guy, personable, great communicator — just a guy you felt comfortable being around," Johnson said. "He's always kept that relationship every time I've seen him. I can always sit and chat with him."

Conversely, Haith, who from the start of his tenure was trying to put out NCAA fires and come up with short-term fixes to his roster, never really developed a recruiting base in Missouri. Johnson and Gunn said Haith got off to a bad start with the state's high school coaches in his first year when he declined an invitation to speak at the annual MBCA fall clinic, which was held at Columbia College.

"As long as we've been doing this, we've always tried to go out of our way to make them feel welcome and build that partnership," Gunn said of the relationship between the state coaches association and MU. "At some points, the relationship seemed important, and at other points it didn't. Sometimes we might get an assistant to come, or sometimes we might get invited to go to a practice, but it wasn't until this past year that we could get Frank Haith to come speak.

"Meanwhile, Bill Self would come and Bruce Weber came. We've had really impressive coaching staffs come to our clinics and want to be there and have an opportunity to address 1,200 of Missouri's basketball coaches, but for some reason there was a disconnect with Mizzou."

The other convenient opportunity to meet lots of high school coaches without leaving the city limits is at MU's annual summer camps. But there were missed opportunities to connect there, too, as high school coaches reported being ignored by members of MU's staff who were preoccupied with their cell phones.

"When Kim Anderson was an assistant and Bob Sundvold was an assistant and Norm was the head coach, they spent time at every camp with the high school coaches," Rock Bridge's Jim Scanlon said. "They spent time during the day with the coaches, mixed with the coaches. They enjoyed doing that. They weren't just talking to us because they wanted to recruit our kids — we didn't have guys that were recruitable. But they just enjoyed having camp with you. We had laughs. We had fun together.

"Now, it's the high school coaches, and then the college coaches are over in the corner somewhere. I think Kim will change that. He was brought up the other way."

Anderson relied heavily on junior college players and some four-year-college transfers at Central Missouri. Last year's Division II national championship roster was composed of eight jucos, five transfers and three players who came to UCM out of high school. Haith took so many transfers — initially, at least, to balance the classes on his roster and avoid a total rebuilding season in his second year — that Missouri was nicknamed Transfer U. Several of those players — Alex Oriakhi, Keion Bell, Earnest Ross, Jabari Brown and Jordan Clarkson — were key contributors, so the strategy made sense.

But Anderson told reporters he will take a different approach at Missouri.

"I want kids that fans can identify with over a period of four years, and, obviously, if you can get the great players, then you do that," Anderson said. "That's kind of the blueprint. I just kind of want to build them over the four years."

Anderson arrives at a critical time, as there are some highly touted uncommitted players in the state who could be impact players. Rivals.com rates Hickman guard Jimmy Whitt 74th nationally in the class of 2015 and Chaminade guard Jayson Tatum fourth in the class of 2016. Tolton's Michael Porter Jr. is expected to be near the top of the class of 2017.

Christian Brothers College Prep Coach Justin Tatum — who is Jayson Tatum's father — said he thinks the state's best players do see value in staying home to play for Missouri or Saint Louis University so family and friends can see them, but that doesn't sway them "if they see Roy Williams more than coaches from Mizzou and SLU."

In the end, the task for Anderson will be making the state's best players see MU the way he did and still does.

"He has ties with high school coaches around the state and I think values the talent in the state as well as the high school coaches who work with that talent," Lee's Summit West Coach Michael Schieber said in an email. "If he can get the top-tier talent that has left the state over the past 15-plus years to stay and play for Missouri, he will most definitely have success."

KChiefs1 05-03-2014 02:06 PM

Bernie Miklasz:

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Bernie: Anderson will turn critics into believers

Memo to the fans and (mostly) national media outlets that disparaged Missouri’s decision to hire Kim Anderson as basketball coach: I like it. Please continue to underestimate him.

Anderson is eminently qualified to do this job. And after taking some time restore order to a dysfunctional program, Anderson will succeed.

I’ve heard some folks pose the question: If Anderson is so good, then why didn’t another Division 1 program hire him? My answer: It’s irrelevant. This is all about what Mizzou needed in a coach at this moment in history, and Anderson is the ideal fit for several reasons:

He’s a smart basketball man. He won’t lose many, if any, strategy matchups. If you can, get a video of Central Missouri’s win in the DII national championship game. You will see a coach in total control of the game; his timing with adjustments and substitutions were spot on.

He’s an excellent leader who has commanded respect in every job he’s had. Anderson is the kind of leader who can get his players to work hard, and execute the system, and put the team’s goals first. That’s been missing at Mizzou.

He will install core basketball principles and give the wayward program a firm identity, especially on the defensive end. And MU’s chronic incompetence in running an efficient half-court offense? That’s over as soon as Anderson cultivates a couple of guards who can run the system. And you’ll be surprised by the tempo.

NCAA scandals have been a problem at Mizzou — but it won’t be an issue under this head coach, who has impeccable integrity. Players coming and going and using Mizzou Arena as a bus terminal? No roster stays 100 percent intact, but the incessant roster shuffling will cease with Anderson in charge.

Anderson will put an end to another recent Mizzou tradition: the head coach running off to chase dollars. This is the only job that Anderson ever wanted. It’s his dream come true. And fans who care about Mizzou hoops can now rest easy knowing that the guy in charge loves MU as much as they do.

Sure, Anderson will have to prove that he can recruit. But there are plenty of recruits out there who are good kids and good players. They’re not all spoiled, selfish egomaniacs. Not every potential recruit is looking to get paid. I’m confident that Anderson can find enough talent — and the right blend of personalties — to create a winner.

So go ahead an underestimate him. That way it will be a lot more fun when he wins and converts the skeptics.

Reading time, five minutes








Free Oscar Taveras.

The Cardinals are 15-15. Not good. But as my friend Randy Karraker of WXOS (101.1 FM) has pointed out, some of the greatest teams in Cards’ history have gotten off to poor or mediocre starts in the season’s first month — most recently in 1985 (5-11) and 2004 (12-11). Conclusion: long season.

It’s simply astounding how quickly manager Mike Matheny gave up on rookie second baseman Kolten Wong and new center fielder Peter Bourjos. … Bovada.lv has updated odds; the Cardinals and Dodgers are still co-favorites to win the NL pennant at 7-2. … Eight Cardinals made John Sickels‘ list of the top 150 prospects for 2014: They are: Taveras (No. 4), RHP Carlos Martinez (17), Wong (57), OF Stephen Piscotty (70), RHP Alex Reyes (88), OF Randal Grichuk (110), LHP Marco Gonzalez (116) and LHP Tim Cooney (139).

C’mon now. It’s bad enough that catcher Ted Simmons has gotten snubbed in the voting for the national Baseball Hall of Fame. But now he’s been snubbed in the first-year voting for the Cardinals Hall of Fame? This is one of the greatest players in franchise history.

In the 10 seasons of the 1970s, during his career peak, Simmons was fourth in the National League in hits, fourth in runs created, fourth in RBIs, third in doubles, fifth in total bases, sixth in multi-hit games, seventh in extra-base hits, 16th in homers and 16th in combined on-base and slugging percentage.

And Simmons produced all of this offense while toiling behind the plate in the steaming cauldron of the AstroTurf-covered Busch Stadium II. Can you imagine what it must have been like for a catcher to maintain the energy, strength and stamina to hit with the consistent excellence displayed by Simmons?

In Cardinals’ franchise history only five players finished with more wins above replacement (WAR) than Simmons: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Albert Pujols, Ozzie Smith and Ken Boyer. The voters’ strikeout on Simba is a shame. Congrats to Willie McGee and Jim Edmonds, who were voted in by the fans. Hopefully it will be Simmons’ turn next year.








Moving on, we were pleased to see retiring Washington University director of athletics John Schael chosen as a member of the St. Louis Sports Hall of Fame’s incoming sixth class. Schael will be honored along with fellow inductees Bob Plager, Brian Sutter, Chris Carpenter, Orlando Cepeda, Aeneas Williams, Kristin Folkl, Taylor Twellman, Gus Otto, Ed Hightower, Connie Price-Smith and Todd Joerling. The annual enshrinement dinner will be Sept. 24, at the Renaissance Grand downtown. Visit www.stlshof.com for more details.

I want to wish my friend and former KMOX colleague Ron Jacober a happy retirement. Jacober is the consummate pro and in my opinion one of the most underrated sportscasters to work in our town. … Atlanta Hawks assistant coach Quin Snyder, the former Mizzou head coach, has received positive reviews for his work this season and is being touted as a candidate to land an NBA head-coaching gig for next season.

Hope I can make it to Fairmount Park today. I like California Chrome to win the Kentucky Derby. I usually look for reasons to toss out the favorite because the Derby is a crazy race that has taken down many a formidable 3-year-old. But I can’t do it this time. This is an inexperienced field that lacks depth. California Chrome is trained by Art Sherman, 77, who had taken the old-school approach by sending Chrome to the post 10 times already. So in a fragile field, California Chrome’s edge in experience and fitness loom as huge advantages. There’s a lot of early speed entered in this one, and if for some reason jockey Victor Espinosa gets caught up in an insane speed duel and burns California Chrome, I like closer Wicked Strong to be in position to steal the race. I’ll have both horses – mixed with Candy Boy and Intense Holiday — in my exotics.

Congrats to St. Louisan Bradley Beal. In the Washington Wizards’ first-round upset of the Chicago Bulls in the NBA Eastern Conference playoffs, Beal led his team with an average of 19.8 points a game. He knocked down 10 of 22 3-point shots, had 21 assists to five turnovers and averaged nearly five rebounds. Beal, 20, is in his second NBA season. When he scored 26 points in Game 2, Beal became only the 10th player in league history age 20 or younger to score 25 or more points in a playoff game.

The Mizzou Tiger Club of St. Louis is having its annual “Pigskin Preview,” featuring coach Gary Pinkel, on Wednesday at the Edward Jones Building at Interstate 270 and Manchester. The coach’s talk begins at 7:30 p.m. with a general admission for $10. But at 6:30 p.m. there’s a private meet and greet ($50 per person) with an appetizer buffet, happy hour refreshments, and a chance to gab with Pinkel, assistant coach Cornell Ford and MU broadcasters Mike Kelly and Howard Richards. For information and reservations call Curt Sawyer at 314-401-8604 or email him at curt@sawcap.com

Some pre-NFL draft intrigue from former NFL scout Daniel Jeremiah, who keeps talking up the Rams’ interest in Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel. As a guest on Pat Imig’s radio show on WGNU (920 AM), Jeremiah said, “Going back to the scouting combine, I had some people there telling me that the Rams are really interested in Manziel. Over the last couple of weeks I just kept getting it from more and more people around the league.”

Finally ...

Saturday is Free Comic Book Day. Around St. Louis places will be celebrating the occasion with signings, free comic books and other goodies and activities.

Many places, like Star Clipper on The Loop, will also be carrying the graphic novel, "Home Brew." It's a collection of stories to celebrate the 250th birthday of St. Louis and its done by local artists, the Ink & Drink Comics group.

That graphic novel also leads off with Derrick Goold's first published comic book story, "Shad's Tale." The Post-Dispatch and STLtoday.com baseball writer inked a fictional, fanciful retelling of the real disappearance of Cardinals pitcher Flint Rhem, and it explores why St. Louis has such deep, successful and cherished roots in baseball.

I read "Shad's Tale" and it's fantastic.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-03-2014 02:12 PM

No one questions Anderson's X's and O's ability. Unfortunately, that is about 10% of the job. The other 90% is recruiting and hobnobbing.

TribalElder 05-03-2014 03:24 PM

Kim Anderson will cut your nets down take the game ball and go home

I wouldn't recommend ****ing with him :)

TribalElder 05-03-2014 03:27 PM

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Pasta Little Brioni 05-03-2014 04:55 PM

...and the dozen fans go wild!!

Pepe Silvia 05-03-2014 05:00 PM

Well bad news, Fuller has been talking to Namon Wright but Wright said regardless hes opening up his recruiting, apparently UCLA swooped in and has him leaning there, especially with a spot at shooting guard opening up. They said even if Haith had stayed we would have had a tough time keeping him, that shit show had to scare him away a little.

nychief 05-03-2014 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10600625)
Well bad news, Fuller has been talking to Namon Wright but Wright said regardless hes opening up his recruiting, apparently UCLA swooped in and has him leaning there, especially with a spot at shooting guard opening up. They said even if Haith had stayed we would have had a tough time keeping him, that shit show had to scare him away a little.

Just curious where you got the info?

Pepe Silvia 05-03-2014 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10600626)
Just curious where you got the info?

SEC Rant, they're pretty reliable, its where I got all the Anderson information.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-03-2014 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10600625)
Well bad news, Fuller has been talking to Namon Wright but Wright said regardless hes opening up his recruiting, apparently UCLA swooped in and has him leaning there, especially with a spot at shooting guard opening up. They said even if Haith had stayed we would have had a tough time keeping him, that shit show had to scare him away a little.

Wright signed his LOI. If Haith didn't leave, it's not likely that Missouri would have just released him.

Pepe Silvia 05-03-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10600636)
Wright signed his LOI. If Haith didn't leave, it's not likely that Missouri would have just released him.

Good point there. Haith did leave though so it looks like we lost him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-03-2014 05:20 PM

That definitely sucks. Silver lining: if you had to lose one, Wright was the inferior of the two prospects.

Pepe Silvia 05-03-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10600652)
That definitely sucks. Silver lining: if you had to lose one, Wright was the inferior of the two prospects.

Gant was the better of the two. The only thing I knew about Wrights was that he was a four star from cali.

TribalElder 05-03-2014 06:33 PM

re: Basketball Recruiting Thread (Posted on 5/3/14 at 11:46 am to the808bass)
PM reporting Gant's high school teammate, Jay Wright is officially visiting Mizzou this Thursday.



http://www.secrant.com/rant/display....42425048&pg=21

:shrug:

Wrong wright :facepalm:

Pepe Silvia 05-03-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10600743)
re: Basketball Recruiting Thread (Posted on 5/3/14 at 11:46 am to the808bass)
PM reporting Gant's high school teammate, Jay Wright is officially visiting Mizzou this Thursday.



http://www.secrant.com/rant/display....42425048&pg=21

:shrug:

Wrong wright :facepalm:

We're talking about Namon Wright.

TribalElder 05-03-2014 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10600770)
We're talking about Namon Wright.

LMAO I realized that after I posted that :facepalm:

TribalElder 05-04-2014 12:46 PM

The following titangraph was copy and pasted from kansascity.com

MU coach Kim Anderson’s upbringing made him the man he is today
May 3
By VAHE GREGORIAN
The Kansas City Star

SEDALIA, Mo. — In a profession speckled with rogues and hucksters among its more virtuous sorts, new Missouri men’s basketball coach Kim Anderson stands above most as an opposite extreme.

He is 6 feet 7 inches of genuine gentleman and self-deprecating wit.

Talk to him, and he’ll actually listen, rare and telling in itself.

All of which makes Anderson almost universally liked and about unanimously seen as just plain nice.

Yet it’s basically that demeanor that makes detractors wonder whether he can make a nimble leap from coaching Division II Central Missouri to the national championship to whisking Mizzou back to national prominence.

But there’s this curious contradictory snippet in his profile that speaks to a broader, more important truth about Anderson … even if the example isn’t inherently laudable.

No MU basketball player fouled out of more games in a career (34) or season (13) than Anderson.

On Tuesday at his introductory news conference, Anderson was presented a replica of his No. 42 jersey from the 1970s that seemed inauthentic to one observer.

“There’s no blood on that thing; it doesn’t belong to Kim,” former Tiger Al Eberhard joked to Anderson’s father, Keith.

Even one who protested a few of the fouls now bears witness to their legitimacy.

“I’ll tell you one thing: They weren’t slapping fouls, either,” former Tigers coach Norm Stewart said, laughing.

With a chuckle, Anderson embraced the distinction as a record that probably will never be broken and tried to answer what it suggested about the way he played.

“The positive interpretation would be I played hard, and the negative would be I played stupid,” he said, deadpanning, “So I guess I played hard and stupid.”

As it happens, Anderson’s foul play is easily reconciled with his demeanor.

It had little to do with playing “stupid,” though surely he could have been more judicious at times.

It reflects his sincerity and authenticity and straightforwardness and single-mindedness of purpose, the traits that also helped make him Big Eight player of the year in 1977.

And that way is what makes him resonate as the fresh face of basketball in Missouri as MU seeks stability after churning through three coaches since Stewart retired in 1999.

That reverberated at the news conference Tuesday.

“There’s no way anybody who saw that could think that wasn’t him,” said his wife, Melissa. “What you see is what you get, really.”

That helps explain why an unscientific poll by The Star asking readers to choose between loving and loathing his hiring yielded 1,779 votes in favor and 482 against.

And it’s a reason that even those who wonder if this will work out can’t help but want it to.

“I think Missouri people are kind of a unique breed,” said Melissa Anderson, a Lee’s Summit native who on Thursday wore a Sporting KC T-shirt inside their Warrensburg home, adorned with a Royals flag. “And he’s like that. I think people can connect to that. He’s generous. He is thoughtful. And he’s one of us. One of them.”

The forces that formed Anderson still radiate from here, the house a mile or so from the Missouri State Fairgrounds that Keith Anderson and his wife, Donna, bought 57 years ago.

It’s the immaculately maintained home with the manicured lawn and the U.S. flag flying and a smaller Central Missouri banner on display — and dueling Mizzou logos etched in concrete at the doorstep.

Here, the melt-your-heart kind Keith Anderson, 85, delights in having a visitor in his living room, where he could still picture former Kansas coach Ted Owens showing his son post-up moves on a recruiting visit while Stewart was idling outside.

He calls the house where Kim Anderson shared a room with his younger brother, Kevin, “nothing fancy.”

And that seems a point of pride for a longtime teacher, coach and referee who put himself through Central Missouri with jobs that included a few summers in Kansas City driving 4 a.m. delivery routes for The Star.

“We didn’t have much,” he said. “We kind of struggled there for a long time.”

But not with the most precious things: nurturing their children and setting examples and providing opportunities for them.

Some of that started in the driveway for his two oldest children, Kim and Kathy, who is three years younger and became a basketball star, too: an All-American at Central Missouri and a member of the U.S. women’s national team for three years entering the 1980 Olympics that the United States boycotted.

They learned to dribble on the gravel driveway, learned how to go left because of a bush in the way on the right that became their cushion for fadeaway shots.

“Bush didn’t last long,” Keith Anderson said. “They played until the dust would get thick out there. The backyard looked like a plowed field. Donna, my wife, she kept Kool-Aid out there all time.”

Neighborhood kids congregated there, too, for basketball, and sometimes Wiffle ball.

But mostly it was Kim vs. Kathy, because Kevin was 10 years younger than Kim. The father remembers a lot of “pushing and shoving and griping” and sometimes crying.

“It was that really fine gravel, so if you fell down you were going to get scratched pretty good,” Kim Anderson said. “Your hands were always skinned up.”

The Andersons also could play in about any school gym around since their dad held keys as a longtime administrator and coach.

That was magic to the children, who saw — and see — their father as firm, fair, honorable and amiable.

He didn’t wield an iron hand at home, but maybe he didn’t need to because his children heard how he ran his classrooms.

As a teacher, he was known for accurately throwing tennis balls and chalkboard erasers at inattentive students.

“I’d be in jail by 8 o’clock in the morning now,” he says, laughing.

Donna Anderson, who was working in special education when she died at 73 after suffering a heart attack in 2006, was more outgoing.

She was the one who needed to take care of everyone and everything, the one whose voice carried at every game her children played in, the one who instilled competitiveness in them.

The combination made for a remarkable reaction in their children, whether or not they recognized it at the time.

“We just wanted to be like them,” said Kathy Anderson, now a senior associate athletic director at Central Missouri.

So they were respectful.

One elementary-school teacher told her family that Kim Anderson was her favorite student because he’d stay after school daily to help her clean. Kathy was apt to do the same, though she scoffed that Kim actually helped clean.

They were attentive and well-behaved … even if Kathy Anderson wanted her brother asked how often he said he was going to the library and didn’t.

“I’m not sure what she’s insinuating,” Kim Anderson said, with mock indignation. Still, Kim Anderson seldom, if ever, was in trouble.

“He wasn’t a saint, but there was only one night I can remember he didn’t come home when he was supposed to,” Keith Anderson said. “We made a phone call or two, and he wasn’t long to come home. I think that’s about the only time we kind of restricted what he could do the next day or two.”

And they learned to work.

Kim Anderson spent many summers working at the Sedalia Country Club, starting as a janitor and working his way up to manager.

They’d all work every summer at the state fair, where Kim Anderson typically helped with parking or selling concessions in the grandstands.

By the time Anderson arrived at MU in 1973, Stewart said, he was “eassssssy coaching” because of his parents.

Stewart and Anderson have vivid memories of their first meeting at Wentworth Military Academy in Lexington about 46 years ago, possibly in 1967 before Stewart coached his first game at MU.

“It was on Court Three. I remember he came over; I was shooting,” Anderson said. “We talked a little bit, and he took me to the goal, and we started working on post moves.

“That’s pretty special when you’re 12 years old. That always made a lasting impression on me that he took the time to do that.”

Stewart came to make an even more indelible impression recruiting Anderson, who took visits to Kansas, Kansas State, Memphis, Texas and Vanderbilt. Anderson knew he would go to MU but hadn’t been out of state much and just wanted to travel, but Stewart left little to chance.

Recruiting rules were more relaxed then, and down the stretch Anderson believes Stewart drove 190 miles round trip from Columbia every day for two weeks to either visit or just hover in the Smith-Cotton High cafeteria as Anderson ate.

Anderson went on to a thriving career at MU that included helping the Tigers to their first NCAA Tournament appearance in 32 years.

But that season ended with a chapter in MU’s star-crossed history as the Tigers fell to Michigan 95-88 in an NCAA Tournament Elite Eight game in 1976 … despite Donna Anderson clutching her rosary in the stands in Louisville.

The game is best-known for Willie Smith’s 43 points. But it also featured a controversial technical-foul call on Anderson with Mizzou leading 76-71 in the final 8 minutes after trailing 50-37 at halftime.

Anderson had escaped for a layup only to be undercut at the rim and grabbed it for self-preservation.

The layup was ruled a dunk, which wasn’t allowed then, and Anderson was assessed a technical. Michigan got free throws and the ball and outscored rattled MU 24-12 in the final minutes.

Stewart still struggles some to talk about the ruling that arguably kept MU from its only Final Four.

Asked if the play had seemed game-changing, Stewart said, “Oh, it was more than that. … That changed a lot of things.”

Including, Stewart believes, the dunk being reinstated the next season.

At the time, Anderson felt the anguish but naïvely thought, “Well, we’ll just come back next year.”

Now he knows nothing can be taken for granted through a career that included playing briefly in the NBA and three years in Europe before starting his coaching life at Mizzou in 1982.

Anderson paid serious dues there, driving around the state with then-MU assistant Gary Filbert to conduct clinics, sometimes for $12.50 a day each, and selling sunglasses that read “Mizzou” on one lens and “Tigers” on the other before football games at Memorial Stadium.

“I truly have come a long way,” Anderson said, laughing.

For a long time, it wasn’t evident he would come back this way.

He spent 11 years in two coaching stints at Mizzou only to be jilted for the top job in 1999, a rejection that pained him and his wife but that they also learned to compartmentalize and not feed.

On he went to the Big 12, where he served as director of basketball operations for four years and kept absorbing tips from other coaches even as it appeared he wouldn’t join their ranks again.

And on he went to Central Missouri when athletic director Jerry Hughes had a vision Anderson was the right man for the job.

And then Anderson took the Mules to his third Final Four and the championship in March to finally become the right man for the MU job when Frank Haith left for Tulsa.

Along the way, so many experiences have formed Anderson’s profile.

But mostly he stayed true to himself and what he comes from, the same characteristics that always have and always will serve him well.

“If you want an eagle,” Stewart said, “get an eagle egg.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/03...#storylink=cpy

TribalElder 05-04-2014 04:45 PM

New Missouri coach Kim Anderson landed his first new recruit for the 2014-15 season when D’Angelo Allen, a small forward from Dallas, committed to the Tigers.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/04...#storylink=cpy

stonedstooge 05-04-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10602040)
New Missouri coach Kim Anderson landed his first new recruit for the 2014-15 season when D’Angelo Allen, a small forward from Dallas, committed to the Tigers.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/04...#storylink=cpy

Is he from a State School?

TribalElder 05-04-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10602043)
Is he from a State School?

3 star from dallas

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...o-Allen-136603

On Sunday afternoon, the new Missouri head coach secured his first commit, landing Kimball High (Texas) 2014 small forward D’Angelo Allen. The 6-foot-6 recruit had been in Columbia on a visit this weekend.

He pledged to Mizzou over offers from Arkansas, Georgetown, Marquette, Oklahoma, Oregon, Providence and Texas A&M. He is a three-star prospect, according to Rivals, and joins an incoming class that includes the No. 52 overall recruit Jakeenan Gant. Four-star guard Namon Wright has reportedly asked out of his National Letter of Intent.

TribalElder 05-04-2014 04:54 PM

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TribalElder 05-04-2014 04:55 PM

kid looks like he can ball a little bit :)

Titty Meat 05-04-2014 05:47 PM

Star rankings in college basketball mean shit

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-04-2014 06:43 PM

This is actually a really good sign:

"Coach Anderson, the time that I spent with him, he told me he's not going to sell me dreams. He's going to make me a pro."

A late-add mid-tier 3* getting bullshitted like that is at least proof that Anderson has some car salesman in him.


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