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KC_Connection 01-09-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14021772)
Vick?

6 turnovers in 27 minutes tonight. An improvement from the 7 last game.

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Lzen 01-09-2019 09:28 PM

I really wish at times that self would bench Vick.

DJay23 01-09-2019 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14021785)
I really wish at times that self would bench Vick.

The way he handles the ball when he passes or dribbles is like he is point shaving.

KC_Connection 01-09-2019 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14021785)
I really wish at times that self would bench Vick.

Just did. Problem is that unlike last year, this team has no good players this year to do so (although Agbaji may be exactly that).

KC_Connection 01-09-2019 09:37 PM

Dedric is so much better offensively with space in the 4 guard set. He may legitimately average 20-10 in conference play.

Uh oh, Vick is entering the game again. Draws a foul on what should have been his 7th turnover on the slip.

KC_Connection 01-09-2019 09:49 PM

Not sure why Self pulled Dedric, just got TCU right back in it.

Reerun_KC 01-09-2019 09:53 PM

Worse KU team in Selfs tenure.

KC_Connection 01-09-2019 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14021835)
Worse KU team in Selfs tenure.

Played quite well tonight.

TambaBerry 01-09-2019 10:04 PM

I thought KU played awesome tonight.

Pants 01-09-2019 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14021835)
Worse KU team in Selfs tenure.

Worse than what?

BWillie 01-09-2019 10:42 PM

Charlie Moore needs to just not play. At all. When Dotson goes out, Garrett becomes our back up PG and we can have Agbaji play in the four guard offense. Charlie Moore has just been terrible - like one of the worst power 5 players bad that gets 15 minutes or more a game. So disappointing.

KJ looked pretty good too tonight. Please give me more KJ if it means less Moore. Agbaji looks like a 3-year player to me, if we are lucky. What a great get - he looks as good as Grimes quite honestly.

Buehler445 01-09-2019 11:07 PM

Fuuuuuck.

I forgot KU played tonight.

Jesus Christ. Lawson went for 31 and 14? Holy **** ass. Did TCU make it out alive?

Prison Bitch 01-09-2019 11:10 PM

I’ve prob missed 5-10 televised KU games in the past 15 years

Didn’t even know they played tonite till I checked this. I’m sorta checked out but that’ll change when league play winds down

If we make it to the 2nd weekend I’ll be pleasantly surprised

KC_Connection 01-09-2019 11:23 PM

Oddly enough, I too forgot they played tonight until just before the game. Was planning to work late until I saw it.

Just that kind of season so far.

jimidollar 01-10-2019 04:41 AM

I'm finding it hard to get into KU games right now. I'll follow more closely after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

Imon Yourside 01-10-2019 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 14022056)
I'm finding it hard to get into KU games right now. I'll follow more closely after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

Pretty much this.

condensed game kinda

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Mr_Tomahawk 01-10-2019 07:37 AM

Apathy.

Mr. Plow 01-10-2019 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14021765)
Agbaji actually looks like he might be better than Vick as an overall player (not the highest of bars, I know). Certainly providing more on both ends than Charlie Moore.

I was fairly impressed that he didn't come out there and look completely lost. Looked like he'd been playing all year.

Mr. Plow 01-10-2019 07:57 AM

For every one good play that Vick makes, he makes 2 equally stupid plays.

Lzen 01-10-2019 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14019241)
Self decides to burn Ochai's redshirt.

Could we see this?

Dotson
Grimes
Vick
Agbaji
Lawson

Switch out Vick for Garret and I'm okay with that. I know a lot of people bash on MG because he is limited on offense but I like him. While his play doesn't usually jump out at you, he is a solid, smart player that plays hard and also plays pretty good defense.

Vick, OTOH, has been awful since those first few games. And for a senior, he sure turns it over A LOT! He is not showing any leadership out there as far as I can tell. He just chucks up guarded shots and hopes they go in like they were early in the season. But they aren't hitting. :#

Reerun_KC 01-10-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14022202)
Switch out Vick for Garret and I'm okay with that. I know a lot of people bash on MG because he is limited on offense but I like him. While his play doesn't usually jump out at you, he is a solid, smart player that plays hard and also plays pretty good defense.

Good post.

O.city 01-10-2019 08:48 AM

Dotson is gonna be really good. I hope he and Grimes stick around for a while.

Lzen 01-10-2019 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14022204)
Good post.

Thanks. See my edit.

Prison Bitch 01-10-2019 08:51 AM

No, sorry Lzen, Garrett isn’t very good. Vick can get 25, he might pull a Newman in March and go nuts. Our only shot to do anything frankly. Garrett won’t do squat, we will lose R32 with him starting

Reerun_KC 01-10-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14022211)
Thanks. See my edit.

And yes agree on edit.

Lzen 01-10-2019 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14022212)
No, sorry Lzen, Garrett isn’t very good. Vick can get 25, he might pull a Newman in March and go nuts. Our only shot to do anything frankly. Garrett won’t do squat, we will lose R32 with him starting

The only thing that Vick is better than Garret in basketball is that he is capable of getting 25. The problem is that you would think by his senior year he wouldn't be so up and down. He should have gotten it by now. But he hasn't. And I seriously doubt that he will by tourney time. He's just a blockhead.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-10-2019 09:16 AM

With the Azubuike injury, I've kind of accepted the fact that this team will not win a title this year. Even with Azubuike, it was hard to envision them beating a team like Duke in the tourney.

However, I'm starting to feel like next year could be a monster in the making (previously expected a down year w/ a mass exodus).

As of now, the mock drafts I've seen have 0 projected first rounders on this team. And Azubuike, Lawson and Grimes tend to be low second, if listed at all. Plus, with the timing of Azubuike's expected return, going pro may not be a realistic option anyway.

A sophomore Dotson, plus seniors Lawson and Azubuike, sophomores Grimes and McCormack, Garrett/Moore/Agbaji, plus I'd assume a decent freshman class...damn.

Seems like a longshot to bring all those guys back, but as of now, how could any of them feel comfortable in leaving?

Mr. Plow 01-10-2019 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14022202)
Vick, OTOH, has been awful since those first few games. And for a senior, he sure turns it over A LOT! :#

And they are some of the dumbest turnovers I've seen a KU player make.

smithandrew051 01-10-2019 10:40 AM

Garret, Vick, Agbaji, KJ, Dedric

Bizarre lineup, but it seemed to work pretty well. Few teams have this type of collection of odd skill sets that they can play together. Hope we see more of it.

BWillie 01-10-2019 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14022451)
Garret, Vick, Agbaji, KJ, Dedric

Bizarre lineup, but it seemed to work pretty well. Few teams have this type of collection of odd skill sets that they can play together. Hope we see more of it.

The trick is letting Garrett play the back up PG and not letting Charlie Moore play - ever - unless we are losing big.

Chief Pagan 01-10-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 14022056)
I'm finding it hard to get into KU games right now. I'll follow more closely after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

And when the Chiefs are one and done we can still look forward to Kansas basketball where a down year is winning another Big 12 title and getting to the elite 8.

Mr. Plow 01-14-2019 07:48 PM

A few notes....

Duke fans yell at anything that appears to go against them. Even if legit and even after the replays.

Williamson is kind of like a bull in a China shop.

saphojunkie 01-14-2019 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 14023493)
And when the Chiefs are one and done we can still look forward to Kansas basketball where a down year is winning another Big 12 title and getting to the elite 8.

whoops

Buehler445 01-14-2019 08:08 PM

Refs really want Puke to win this one. So they’re going to get OT. Yay.

Buehler445 01-14-2019 08:11 PM

****ing fighting over boards.

Mr. Plow 01-14-2019 08:20 PM

Duke gonna lose.

Buehler445 01-14-2019 08:24 PM

**** Shaka Smart. End

Reerun_KC 01-14-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14039255)
**** Shaka Smart. End

With a rusty belt sander.

Reerun_KC 01-14-2019 10:04 PM

We’d guys.

Mr. Plow 01-14-2019 10:05 PM

That's a Shaka Smart finish if I've ever seen one.

Reerun_KC 01-14-2019 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 14039520)
That's a Shaka Smart finish if I've ever seen one.

Gah. It was aids.

Buehler445 01-14-2019 10:20 PM

So my question is why did it take so long to yoink Ochai's redshirt? He took a bunch of dudes minutes, and the crunch time minutes no less. If he's played his way into those minutes in like a week, why did it take so long to do it?

Prison Bitch 01-14-2019 11:00 PM

Lawson was just nails down the stretch.

CoMoChief 01-14-2019 11:14 PM

It appears Jim Boeheim pissed himself during the Duke game.

Buehler445 01-14-2019 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14039676)
It appears Jim Boeheim pissed himself during the Duke game.

I have no idea how he continues to field competent teams.

KC_Connection 01-14-2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14039566)
So my question is why did it take so long to yoink Ochai's redshirt? He took a bunch of dudes minutes, and the crunch time minutes no less. If he's played his way into those minutes in like a week, why did it take so long to do it?

The answer is that it shouldn't have. Guess Self didn't want to give up on Moore, but we'd seen enough.

BWillie 01-14-2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14039676)
It appears Jim Boeheim pissed himself during the Duke game.

Again? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdInoyEU...pg&name=medium

Mr. Plow 01-18-2019 08:26 AM

De Sousa attorney calls for immediate reinstatement from NCAA

Quote:

Silvio De Sousa's attorney, Scott Tompsett, released a statement calling for the Kansas basketball sophomore to be immediately reinstated by the NCAA, the Kansas City Star's Jesse Newell tweeted on Thursday.

De Sousa, who joined the KU basketball team for the second semester last year, has not played in 2018-19, pending the result of a review into his eligibility by KU and the NCAA.

KU coach Bill Self announced before the season that De Sousa would be withheld while an investigation took place to better understand everything that was revealed during a trial that took place in New York with regard to the FBI investigation into college basketball.

"I don't see a scenario where I won't coach him again unless there's something that comes out more," Self said at the time. "But let me make this very clear, and make sure you guys get this correctly: There is an eligibility review that's going to be done jointly by our university and the NCAA and that will determine when he can play, and I guess you could even put the word 'if' in there, but that's something that will be determined by somebody else."

Most recently, Self was asked about De Sousa at his weekly press conference on Thursday and said he had heard no new developments. Later in the day, De Sousa's attorney put out the statement.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-18-2019 08:35 AM

Just let him play vs Kentucky. That's all I ask for.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 01:18 PM

This is disgusting basketball...as usual in West Virginia.

Reerun_KC 01-19-2019 01:19 PM

The collective BBIQ of Kansas players is humiliating. These guys are pretty bad.

Pablo 01-19-2019 01:23 PM

Woof. Guess I'm glad I missed the first five minutes of this. The last five have been brutal to watch.

Reerun_KC 01-19-2019 01:25 PM

Some basic dribbling fundamentals should be practiced at least once a day. These guys can dribble or pass the basket ball for shit.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 01:26 PM

Huggins just has an incredible ability to turn this sport into a trashfest that I've seen from no other coach in the country.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 01:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KU at 0.655 PPP.<br><br>If it lasted a full game (it won&#39;t), this would be the worst offensive performance in Self&#39;s 16 seasons in Lawrence.</p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1086709132579741696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Somebody make it stop.

Pablo 01-19-2019 01:47 PM

Mother****er, that was shit on my eyes. I don't want to watch the second half of this "basketball" game.

Kiimo 01-19-2019 02:00 PM

West Virginia is TERRIBLE this year, in case anyone wasn't mad right now. They should be deconstructing this garbo team.

Chiefspants 01-19-2019 02:02 PM

WV does this to great teams even in down years. Tech barely made it out against them earlier this year.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14052370)
West Virginia is TERRIBLE this year, in case anyone wasn't mad right now. They should be deconstructing this garbo team.

I'm just annoyed at Huggins for what he does to the game of basketball. I'm used to Kansas playing awful this year, that's nothing new.

ROYC75 01-19-2019 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14052373)
WV does this to great teams even in down years. Tech barely made it out against them earlier this year.

Yep,and it's painful to watch KU allow this shit too happen.

BWillie 01-19-2019 02:24 PM

Kansas has 4 assists - in the entire game.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-19-2019 02:26 PM

Garrett is dominating this game.

BWillie 01-19-2019 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14052408)
Garrett is dominating this game.

5 steals - and probably should have 7. If he could shoot like Vick he would be a lottery pick.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:42 PM

Phantom foul on Garrett followed by an awful jump ball call. Interesting.

Pablo 01-19-2019 02:45 PM

Great ****ing foul Grimes.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14052450)
Great ****ing foul Grimes.

Was it even a foul or was it just Bolden falling down on an off balance shot hoping to get a call?

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:50 PM

Garrett is becoming this team's clear 2nd best player with his offensive contributions over the past little while.

BWillie 01-19-2019 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14052455)
Was it even a foul or was it just Bolden falling down on an off balance shot hoping to get a call?

James Harden Disease is spreading.

jimidollar 01-19-2019 02:54 PM

Wow! Great steal by garrett.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:55 PM

Run a play for Dedric Lawson please.

jimidollar 01-19-2019 02:56 PM

Shitty loss. This team sucks.

Pablo 01-19-2019 02:56 PM

Disgusting.

BWillie 01-19-2019 02:57 PM

OMG how do you lose that game - just absolute garbage way to close out the game.

SithCeNtZ 01-19-2019 02:57 PM

The game was lost with 3 straight play calls for Garret in crunch time. Self should be embarrassed.

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 02:58 PM

Only two more months of having to watch Vick play basketball at least. This may be the year the streak ends, though.

Rivaldo 01-19-2019 02:58 PM

West Virginia mountain momma!

Mr_Tomahawk 01-19-2019 02:59 PM

@Morgantown and @Ames aren't terrible losses...historically.

...this is what I am telling myself at the moment.

PHOG 01-19-2019 02:59 PM

Why was Garret the go to guy today? :rolleyes:

ROYC75 01-19-2019 03:01 PM

Well, that was a lot of ffun, for WV.

When you play ugly, you look ugly against an ugly team!

Just pathetic!

KC_Connection 01-19-2019 03:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bolden did the “I’ve been shot” and it worked. <a href="https://t.co/gZAQS2axtI">pic.twitter.com/gZAQS2axtI</a></p>&mdash; CJ Moore (@CJMooreHoops) <a href="https://twitter.com/CJMooreHoops/status/1086726871625146368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This wasn't a foul, not that it matters at this point. You can't lose that game.


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