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penguinz 11-29-2022 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16633854)
Well, job done.

Be hard to advance beyond this since we seem to be without much of an attacking threat, but credit the team for hanging on.
If Renya is healthy he needs to be on the pitch against Ned. USA needs the spark and magic he is capable of.

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:07 PM
Commentators are exactly right, the subs were poor. Zimmerman played well but Wright and Moore are poor.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16633834)
Zimmerman balling out.
Subs were bad and I know people love shitting on Zimmerman here but he played really well.

RetiredSeniorChief 11-29-2022 03:08 PM
The only way this gay shit would be in the least bit interesting is if the Iranians brought sabers to the match.

New World Order 11-29-2022 03:09 PM
Ahhhh that was an intense final 10 minutes

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633865)
The only way this gay shit would be in the least bit interesting is if the Iranians brought sabers to the match.
If you were capable of not bitching about things you are ignorant about you would have zero posts.

RunKC 11-29-2022 03:11 PM
Sweet. Who do we play next?

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633865)
The only way this gay shit would be in the least bit interesting is if the Iranians brought sabers to the match.
Love you

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16633868)
Sweet. Who do we play next?
Netherlands.

DJ's left nut 11-29-2022 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16633868)
Sweet. Who do we play next?
Netherlands

Gary Cooper 11-29-2022 03:12 PM
We're moving on boys.

The U.S. definitely isn't suited to sit back and defend. They're best when they're attacking and using their speed and youth. I understand why they sat back the last 15 to 20 minutes but I felt they started playing passive too early in the second half. Dodged some bullets there toward the end.

dmahurin 11-29-2022 03:12 PM
Ive never really been into soccer until I saw someone recently compare it to basketball in the sense of passing around to try and set up plays and once I understood offsides and what to look for, it's kind of enjoyable.

New World Order 11-29-2022 03:13 PM
We can beat Netherlands.

It’s nice we don’t play a super heavyweight like Brazil or France

cj2wr 11-29-2022 03:14 PM
Is Gio dead?! If he doesn’t play Saturday then it’s def beef with coach. Netherlands is very beatable

RetiredSeniorChief 11-29-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16633867)
If you were capable of not bitching about things you are ignorant about you would have zero posts.
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loochy 11-29-2022 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16633875)
We can beat Netherlands.

It’s nice we don’t play a super heavyweight like Brazil or France

Netherlands aren't quite what they used to be, but they're a consistent powerhouse and no joke. Even though they are ranked lower than England, they should prove to be considerably more formidable.

WilliamTheIrish 11-29-2022 03:16 PM
Keep Shaq Moore off the field please. He’s in over his head.

Hell Dempsey finally called him out

Said "I saw Moore raise his hand to say my bad moore than the number of passes he completed".

About time too.

loochy 11-29-2022 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633865)
The only way this gay shit would be in the least bit interesting is if the Iranians brought sabers to the match.

I just can't understand why non fans come into a thread just to post asshole things. Just go away...

Womble 11-29-2022 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16633880)
Netherlands aren't quite what they used to be, but they're a consistent powerhouse and no joke. Even though they are ranked lower than England, they should prove to be considerably more formidable.
They won't be playing for a draw, that's for certain.

loochy 11-29-2022 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16633882)
Keep Shaq Moore off the field please. He’s in over his head.

Hell Dempsey finally called him out

Said "I saw Moore raise his hand to say my bad moore than the number of passes he completed".

About time too.

Also, Haji Wright...slow AF and doesn't look like he hustles despite coming on late in the game. That dude should be up off the ground ASAP and sprinting back to help on D with the game on the line like that. Instead he casually gets up off the ground and gently jogs back to the center circle area. I know he's a CF, but come on man, you aren't effing Ronaldo out there

BWillie 11-29-2022 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 16633476)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How to fix soccer: <br><br>1. The field is ****ing huge. Shrink it.<br><br>2. Too many players on the field. Limit to three forwards, two defenders, and a goalie.<br><br>3. Players should get to come in and out whenever they want. Don’t stop the game.<br><br>4. Shrink the goal.<br><br>5. Ice everywhere</p>&mdash; Jarvis (@jarvis_best) <a href="https://twitter.com/jarvis_best/status/1597299021760311296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
To me the two biggest things that hurt soccer are
1) Too many defenders and players on field. You want as many 1 on 1 opportunities as possible as it adds excitement.
2) Offsides penalties mitigate speed and explosion to try to score goals.

Both of those things mitigate the need for elite athleticism, and also limit goal scoring in the process. But my guess is soccer has not changed for decades.

Great Expectations 11-29-2022 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16633880)
Netherlands aren't quite what they used to be, but they're a consistent powerhouse and no joke. Even though they are ranked lower than England, they should prove to be considerably more formidable.
England looked vastly overrated.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633887)
To me the two biggest things that hurt soccer are
1) Too many defenders and players on field. You want as many 1 on 1 opportunities as possible as it adds excitement.
2) Offsides penalties mitigate speed and explosion to try to score goals.

Both of those things mitigate the need for elite athleticism, and also limit goal scoring in the process. But my guess is soccer has not changed for decades.
Shout out to all the people who watch soccer once every 4 years and during that time are laboring under the idea that anyone wants them to fix it. A thing that is already the most popular sport in the world and is not broken. 🤣

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16633880)
Netherlands aren't quite what they used to be, but they're a consistent powerhouse and no joke. Even though they are ranked lower than England, they should prove to be considerably more formidable.
Yeah, they still have a lot of quality players in that team, particularly defenders.

The USA is going to be overmatched in every game from here. It will take something special to advance any further. But I think advancing to the knockout stages is a realistic goal for where the USA is and we’ve done that.

RunKC 11-29-2022 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16633875)
We can beat Netherlands.

It’s nice we don’t play a super heavyweight like Brazil or France
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tredadda 11-29-2022 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633865)
The only way this gay shit would be in the least bit interesting is if the Iranians brought sabers to the match.
What were you hoping to accomplish with this comment?

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633887)
To me the two biggest things that hurt soccer are
1) Too many defenders and players on field. You want as many 1 on 1 opportunities as possible as it adds excitement.
2) Offsides penalties mitigate speed and explosion to try to score goals.

Both of those things mitigate the need for elite athleticism, and also limit goal scoring in the process. But my guess is soccer has not changed for decades.
The game has been played essentially the same way since the 1860s and the entire world is obsessed with it. It does not need “fixing”.

BWillie 11-29-2022 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633895)
Shout out to all the people who watch soccer once every 4 years and during that time are laboring under the idea that anyone wants them to fix it. A thing that is already the most popular sport in the world and is not broken. 🤣
It absolutely needs to be fixed. The world likes alot of things that suck. When you are born with certain things, it will be ingrained into you.

Hark Clunt 11-29-2022 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633895)
Shout out to all the people who watch soccer once every 4 years and during that time are laboring under the idea that anyone wants them to fix it. A thing that is already the most popular sport in the world and is not broken. 🤣
yeah seriously, it's so damn annoying.

BWillie 11-29-2022 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16633903)
The game has been played essentially the same way since the 1860s and the entire world is obsessed with it. It does not need “fixing”.
Wrong.

Hark Clunt 11-29-2022 03:26 PM
we have a shot against the dutch. hopefully pulisic can play.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633906)
It absolutely needs to be fixed. The world likes alot of things that suck. When you are born with certain things, it will be ingrained into you.
Sorry to tell you this but literally nobody cares about the ways you think dodder needs to be fixed and none of your ideas that are lazy and people have had for decades will be given a single thought. Soccer is as good as it’s ever been. If you don’t like it then watch something else nobody gives a shit.

RetiredSeniorChief 11-29-2022 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16633901)
What were you hoping to accomplish with this comment?
Soccer and their fans are annoying and pretentious.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:28 PM
Wonder if a more open game will allow our offense to click a little more and be more dynamic.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633915)
Soccer and their fans are annoying and pretentious.
Stay mad about it.

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uplo...5-1024x683.jpg

BWillie 11-29-2022 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633914)
Sorry to tell you this but literally nobody cares about the ways you think dodder needs to be fixed and none of your ideas that are lazy and people have had for decades will be given a single thought. Soccer is as good as it’s ever been. If you don’t like it then watch something else nobody gives a shit.
Imagine if football never started allowing the forward pass or if basketball never created a 3-point shot...

jd1020 11-29-2022 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633895)
Shout out to all the people who watch soccer once every 4 years and during that time are laboring under the idea that anyone wants them to fix it. A thing that is already the most popular sport in the world and is not broken. 🤣
It clearly doesn't need to be "fixed," but I feel like shrinking the playing field in which you can be offsides would make things a bit more exciting and open it up for more attacking.

loochy 11-29-2022 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 16633889)
England looked vastly overrated.
England are ALWAYS overrated. They're kind of the San Diego Chargers of international soccer (minus the injury thing). They are always ranked high and always picked to be awesome and they end up being consistently mediocre.

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 16633911)
we have a shot against the dutch. hopefully pulisic can play.
We scratched out a goal against Iran and Wales, but the Dutch have top class defenders and we have very little attacking threat. I wouldn’t bet on the US scoring against them. Hopefully I’m wrong and they pull what would be a shocking upset, but I’m not expecting anything.

DJ's left nut 11-29-2022 03:31 PM
Pulisic to the hospital with an abdominal injury, eh?

Well that's probably not great.

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16633903)
The game has been played essentially the same way since the 1860s and the entire world is obsessed with it. It does not need “fixing”.
The game has actually changed a lot since then. IFAB publishes updates to the laws every year. There are changes every year. Sometimes just clarifying how the law is actually meant to be interpreted but often actual changes as well.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633921)
Imagine if football never started allowing the forward pass or if basketball never created a 3-point shot...
The ecstasy and the agony attached to the worlds game as it is right now is absolutely perfect. But keep spinning your wheels come back and see us in 2026 it will be the same and it will be amazing.

loochy 11-29-2022 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16633922)
It clearly doesn't need to be "fixed," but I feel like shrinking the playing field in which you can be offsides would make things a bit more exciting and open it up for more attacking.

It would wreck the explosiveness of the game and it would turn into a stupid long ball contest. You'd get a forward or two camping out by the goal, which would then pull two defenders to the goal. That would happen on both sides and you'd get this massive emptied out field in between in which the need for speed and explosiveness in attack would be mitigated.


The only people in the world that think this particular aspect of the game needs changed are Americans that aren't regular viewers of the game.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16633922)
It clearly doesn't need to be "fixed," but I feel like shrinking the playing field in which you can be offsides would make things a bit more exciting and open it up for more attacking.
No

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16633901)
What were you hoping to accomplish with this comment?
RerunnedSeniorCitizen wasn’t picked for a game back when he was a kid and the soccer balls were leather and had stitches, he’s been mad ever since

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16633922)
It clearly doesn't need to be "fixed," but I feel like shrinking the playing field in which you can be offsides would make things a bit more exciting and open it up for more attacking.
Compressing the field would do the opposite. In soccer open space is how creativity and goals are created.

Make it more compact and goals will go down and penalties increased.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16633925)
Pulisic to the hospital with an abdominal injury, eh?

Well that's probably not great.
Yea this sucks. He should have left the game immediately.

Dartgod 11-29-2022 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16633901)
What were you hoping to accomplish with this comment?
To get himself banned from the thread.

And it worked!

Hark Clunt 11-29-2022 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16633924)
We scratched out a goal against Iran and Wales, but the Dutch have top class defenders and we have very little attacking threat. I wouldn’t bet on the US scoring against them. Hopefully I’m wrong and they pull what would be a shocking upset, but I’m not expecting anything.
oh yeah, we're still total underdogs against them. but i'd rather face the netherlands than a team like brazil or france.

sedated 11-29-2022 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633906)
It absolutely needs to be fixed. The world likes alot of things that suck. When you are born with certain things, it will be ingrained into you.
No one gives a shit about your opinion, except maybe your friends at the lunch table in 7th grade.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:35 PM
The way Tyler Adams navigated this game on and off the field was incredible.

Chieftain 11-29-2022 03:35 PM
Here is to hoping for those english cun*s to get eliminated in the next round.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:36 PM
Matt Turner is so likeable.

New World Order 11-29-2022 03:36 PM
Man, not having Pullisic would be huge

backinblack 11-29-2022 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633878)
<iframe width="400" height="225" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/FsLxEUkscNA" title="Hank Hill tells Bobby the reason Soccer was invented" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
you know the joke of this clip is on Hank right?

how can you interpret this show so poorly lol

sedated 11-29-2022 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16633925)
Pulisic to the hospital with an abdominal injury, eh?

Well that's probably not great.
Not great in general or the fact that its a hospital in Qatar?

tredadda 11-29-2022 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 16633915)
Soccer and their fans are annoying and pretentious.
So are retired Senior Chiefs who feel the need to post in a thread about a sport they care nothing about.

sedated 11-29-2022 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633941)
The way Tyler Adams navigated this game on and off the field was incredible.
I'm not soccer aficionado but Aaronson looked really good out there, and seemed to be the only one capable of being a true striker.

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 16633938)
oh yeah, we're still total underdogs against them. but i'd rather face the netherlands than a team like brazil or france.
USA will be lucky to put a single goal on the board and hold Need to two or fewer.

This WC is just a warm up for a run in 26.

NJChiefsFan 11-29-2022 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633914)
Sorry to tell you this but literally nobody cares about the ways you think dodder needs to be fixed and none of your ideas that are lazy and people have had for decades will be given a single thought. Soccer is as good as it’s ever been. If you don’t like it then watch something else nobody gives a shit.
There are plenty of people around the world that don't like some of the antics that come with time wasting or flopping. Don't exaggerate to make a point. There are issues that even hardcore soccer fans don't like. You can even see it in the different styles of play from regions like North America and Europe(minus Italy) compared to Latin America.

sedated 11-29-2022 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 16633951)
There are plenty of people around the world that don't like some of the antics that come with time wasting or flopping. Don't exaggerate to make a point. There are issues that even hardcore soccer fans don't like. You can even see it in the different styles of play from regions like North America and Europe(minus Italy) compared to Latin America.
People bitch about every sport (rules, refs, etc), just look at a CP game day thread

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 16633946)
you know the joke of this clip is on Hank right?

how can you interpret this show so poorly lol
He is senile.

tredadda 11-29-2022 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16633925)
Pulisic to the hospital with an abdominal injury, eh?

Well that's probably not great.
Yeah. Gonna be even tougher without him if he can’t go Saturday.

chiefzilla1501 11-29-2022 03:40 PM
Playing subs like Moore while refusing to play Reyna is ****ing brutal.

ChiefaRoo 11-29-2022 03:40 PM
USA rainbow warriors -1
Flopping falafel drama floppers - 0

Haven’t been this excited since I watched beer fest.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 16633951)
There are plenty of people around the world that don't like some of the antics that come with time wasting or flopping. Don't exaggerate to make a point. There are issues that even hardcore soccer fans don't like. You can even see it in the different styles of play from regions like North America and Europe(minus Italy) compared to Latin America.
Are you’re telling me a sport isn’t perfect?

Thanks.

You just described every fans relationship with the sport they love. Those ideas were literally terrible.

BWillie 11-29-2022 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16633928)
It would wreck the explosiveness of the game and it would turn into a stupid long ball contest. You'd get a forward or two camping out by the goal, which would then pull two defenders to the goal. That would happen on both sides and you'd get this massive emptied out field in between in which the need for speed and explosiveness in attack would be mitigated.


The only people in the world that think this particular aspect of the game needs changed are Americans that aren't regular viewers of the game.
There is nothing explosive about soccer. But there could be.

KChiefs1 11-29-2022 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 16633874)
Ive never really been into soccer until I saw someone recently compare it to basketball in the sense of passing around to try and set up plays and once I understood offsides and what to look for, it's kind of enjoyable.

Explain this to me.

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|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16633964)
There is nothing explosive about soccer. But there could be.
There is explosion everywhere.

Look it’s ok that you don’t like soccer. You sitting down and watching soccer 4 times doesn’t make you a good resource to make it better. It actually makes you a terrible person for that.

We don’t want soccer games to end in 14 to 9 scores.

You are trying to fix something that is the most popular thing in the world (and it isn’t close) as it is.

Hark Clunt 11-29-2022 03:43 PM
guys, no one is making you like soccer. you don't have to like soccer. please, for the love of god, stop bitching about stuff like the offside rule. it's never going away, just watch something else if you don't like it.

GloryDayz 11-29-2022 03:43 PM
I'll be on my way to Bonaire when our game with the Netherlands is going on, if they lose all my luggage between the plane and the baggage carrousel I guess I'll know who won... LMAO o:-)

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16633965)
Explain this to me.
Part of his body is behind the last man, therefore he is offside.

Jewish Rabbi 11-29-2022 03:44 PM
Do the Iranians still get a goat to **** when they go home?

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16633965)
If any part of the attacker, except for the arm, is closer to the goal line than the ball or the second to last defender, keeper is the last defender 98%of the time, when the ball is played from a teammate then they are offside.

penguinz 11-29-2022 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16633971)
Part of his body is behind the last man, therefore he is offside.
Not quite. There is more to it.

loochy 11-29-2022 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16633965)

Part of the attacker's body is extending goalside past the second to last defender's body at the time the ball was passed to him.


People always say the last defender, but it's the second to last defender. The law is that there must be at least two opposing players between a player and the goal at the time a ball is played to him. This rule does not apply on throw ins or if the ball is played from the attacker's own half of the field.

|Zach| 11-29-2022 03:48 PM
Saturday. So excited.

Holladay 11-29-2022 03:49 PM
Ok, I don't follow soccer. No biggy.

So now they say it is single elimination....win and move on, lose and go out. Understandable.

What happens with a tie? Or will they keep playing, like OT until there is a winner?

loochy 11-29-2022 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16633979)
Saturday. So excited.
Well, I was excited.


But I'll be at the TCU-K State game so I'll be watching from my phone I guess...

Eleazar 11-29-2022 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holladay (Post 16633983)
Ok, I don't follow soccer. No biggy.

So now they say it is single elimination....win and move on, lose and go out. Understandable.

What happens with a tie? Or will they keep playing, like OT until there is a winner?
Extra time and penalties if necessary


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