I've said multiple times that I will eat crow if I'm wrong about Skyy.

The **** you was just because!

I would love for young WRs to develop with Mahomes, but I want at least one of those receivers to have legit WR1 potential, and I don't think anyone currently on the team or practice squad has that potential.

I have no idea what Bretolli Veacharino has planned, but if Quinton Johnston or Smith-Njigba fall anywhere close to 18-20, I would be disappointed if we didn't try to move up and get one of them.

This is where I've been all along.

It's going to be fine. Unless Mahomes goes down, it'll be a top 5 offense without a doubt.

If the defense is better, then the team may well be better overall.

Sign a Marquez Callaway, bring back JWat, draft a guy by #63. With MVS, Skyy, and Toney, that'll do fine.

Toney certainly has that kind of potential, regardless of the injury concerns.

I don't think it's necessarily about having a bonafide WR1 though. Just have a good/deep group with diverse skill sets.

Keep drafting and developing young guys, and the WR1 stuff will sort itself out.

Where you and I disagreed is that you believe(d) that the Chiefs would have no interest in OBJ/Dhop AT ALL, while i believed they would.

The difference being that $10M for Obj/Dhop, IMO, IS cheap.

While the Chiefs are looking for a $4m receiver...that's a different level of cheap.

Man, you keep saying this when we have no clue what the Chiefs are offering. It's a huge reach based on an OBJ tweet that didn't specify any team.

Maybe OBJ said that because that's the most ANYBODY was offering right now.

Especially seeing that Mecole got a deal that could go up to 6.5

We have $9M in cap space AFTER visiting bank of mahomes. Why would i assume they're offering anything greater?

It totally fits the Chiefs recent actions. There's even less reason to believe the Chiefs have offered more.

"Anybody" would include the Chiefs.

They're obviously not all that motivated to sign a FA WR.

Which tells me they're perfectly comfortable with Toney/Moore and then adding a guy or two in the draft.

/shrug.

That's not the point. OBJ was talking as if that's the most anybody is offering. Maybe, just maybe, a deal like that with incentives is all anybody is offering him right now.

Who are the teams that are out there offering OBJ and Hopkins all this money that the Chiefs aren't? That's my question.

But if everybody else is offfering the same, how is that going to stop the Chiefs from getting him?

These guys can want all the money in the world, the market is still going to dictate what they actually get.

Right.

You asked me why i think the Chiefs offered $4M.

You're answering your own question here, dude.

If OBJ is talking as if that's the most anybody is offering, that would include the Chiefs.

So, logically, we can arrive at the conclusion that the Chiefs have not offered more than $4m, right?

Maybe he settles. Maybe a team like the Ravens and Jets swoop in and sweeten the deal, it's not like it'd take much.

Oh I seriously doubt they offered more.

In fact, I seriously doubt they offered anything. I'm sure they looked into both, talked a little about what their expectations were, let them know what we were looking to spend and went on their merry way.

Maybe a Callaway type, a JWat for insurance, draft a guy in the first couple of rounds and get on with our lives.

But the implication was that the Chiefs are out here being cheap while everybody else is offering significantly more.

We don't know that the Chiefs are low balling OBJ any more than his other suitors. I'd argue that they're all doing the same based on his tweet.

And the Chiefs offer for OBJ who's much more of a gamble than Hopkins, doesn't mean that that's all they're willing to give Hopkins too.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.