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Pitt Gorilla 12-08-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16654111)
You clearly don't even know what a strawman is.

You've moved the goalposts so many times on Karlaftis that I don't even know where they are any more.

Apparently, pressures, sacks, AND a high win rate amongst his peers ALL don't matter.

I think I've proven how dishonest and biased you are on this subject.

I have no idea how Chief Fan is evaluating him now. We've probably moved on to the magical "eye test" portion of the nonsense.

staylor26 12-08-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16654139)
Pass rushers are technicians. Hand-fighting and a hundred different tricks to get around giant tackles. You have to grow into it both mentally and physically.

Exactly, guys with his skill set tend to start slow.

He's not going to win with athleticism and length.

He's going to win with strength, hand-fighting, technique, and savvy veteran moves. To think that a 21 year old rookie isn't going to get better at those things is just dumb. Especially a guy like Karlaftis who has as good of a work ethic and is as dedicated to his craft as anybody.

staylor26 12-08-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16654140)
The Frank Clark trade continues to screw the team. I really hope they can get that figured out soon. Gotta replace Frank with a legit pass rusher who doesn't kill the Chiefs' salary cap.

The problem is that the only options the Chiefs had for this year were old brokedicks that would've done just that.

JPH83 12-08-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16653529)
I'm sorry, but when he was just getting pressures and not sacks, I could understand, but now that the sacks are coming, if you're still not satisfied, it's because your expectations are clearly too high or you don't want to be.

Yeah that's why I said I reckon he's been a little better the last two weeks and that that wasn't solely shown by sacks, but he also seemed to be getting a little more pressure.

DRM08 12-08-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16654154)
The problem is that the only options the Chiefs had for this year were old brokedicks that would've done just that.

I wouldn't mind seeing them give Leo Chenal a chance as an edge rusher. Someone mentioned that Chenal's athletic score is basically identical to prime Von Miller, with very similar size as well. I know he wouldn't be some kind of world-beater in that role immediately, but perhaps over time he could turn into a legit player in that spot. He seems to have pretty unique athletic traits.

staylor26 12-08-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16654159)
Yeah that's why I said I reckon he's been a little better the last two weeks and that that wasn't solely shown by sacks, but he also seemed to be getting a little more pressure.

Which is fair.

Trust me dude, I know you aren't anything like Tribal Warfare and some of the others.

RunKC 12-11-2022 07:48 PM

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3 straight games with a sack. Got a coverage sack today that didn’t tell the whole story. Batted another pass, got some good pressures.

Also had a sack on the first play that went right through his arms. Feel like he’s had 4 or 5 sacks go bc of that this year. Here’s a pic of that play. Had both hands on Wilson.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2022 07:50 PM

he's going to end the season with at least 7 sacks

solid, solid draft pick

Kiimo 12-11-2022 08:18 PM

I thought about this thread the entire game

Pitt Gorilla 12-11-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16661724)
3 straight games with a sack. Got a coverage sack today that didn’t tell the whole story. Batted another pass, got some good pressures.

Also had a sack on the first play that went right through his arms. Feel like he’s had 4 or 5 sacks go bc of that this year. Here’s a pic of that play. Had both hands on Wilson.

And Chief Fan was STILL whining about him in the GDT.

-King- 12-11-2022 08:23 PM

He played really solid today. Got a sack and I think a batted ball or 2.

smithandrew051 12-11-2022 08:25 PM

As Veach rebuilds the DL, I think we can be pretty confident that this dude is a piece.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-11-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16654140)
The Frank Clark trade continues to screw the team. I really hope they can get that figured out soon. Gotta replace Frank with a legit pass rusher who doesn't kill the Chiefs' salary cap.

IDK, he brained Wilson today and beat Trent Williams to sack Jimmy in the end zone earlier this year. Consistency is his issue. He disappears a lot.

RunKC 12-13-2022 07:16 PM

Exactly what you wanna see from him. He’s learning. Pass rusher moves will only get better next year and he is only 21 years old.

Also, he really is king of the almost sack. Should have had 3 in this game

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Encouraging rush here from Karlaftis. He is starting to get comfortable with more than the bull rush. He is building. My not seem like a big deal but it is a really good development. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/RKh4Br3BOR">pic.twitter.com/RKh4Br3BOR</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1602819426377777153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

crispystl 12-13-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16654144)
Exactly, guys with his skill set tend to start slow.

He's not going to win with athleticism and length.

He's going to win with strength, hand-fighting, technique, and savvy veteran moves. To think that a 21 year old rookie isn't going to get better at those things is just dumb. Especially a guy like Karlaftis who has as good of a work ethic and is as dedicated to his craft as anybody.

It’s crazy. The guy has a better win rate than the number two overall ****ing pick. Also don’t you all think he just MIGHT get a little stronger or grow into his body a tad more since he’s so young ?


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