Good Plan. You know how these things change. Even after the season is over. It's amazing how stocks can rise and fall so much months after the games have been played.

I think bray has the best physical skills of any of them but mentally he just isn't there

Coach dooley has been riding his ass forcing him to be a leader. He would definately be better off waiting a year but, his receivers are gone after this year so he might come out.

I was going to put in my other post that I believe he would have to sit a year before making any starts. I think he clearly has the least amount of talent to work with among all of these guys. And that's going to make a big difference in their numbers. I've probably watched him the most of all of them, and he definitely has all of the tools you look for. His arm is elite. Not that arm strength is the #1 attribute that I look for. One of the least actually. Accuracy, decision making, and pocket presence are the #1 things I look for. Arm strength is just a bonus IMO. I like Bray, but I don't think he's the best of these guys. When I said huge FAN, that's what I meant. I'm from TN, but I think he might be #4 in my ranking of the top 4 guys.

Yep, Against the worst passing defense in the BCS. I specifically wanted to see how he would do when the chips were down. He pretty much did what I expected him to do. He doesn't seem to be able to make plays when the opposing team figures out how to stop their system offense. Is he a product of the system? All of these QBs have flaws but this is a big one imo. We need a leader. Not a guy who paces the sidelines with a "tough guy" glare. We don't just need a QB, we need a leader.

I'm circling the OU game as the real testament in how Geno plays and responds to national ranked adversity after being spanked by K-State.

^^^This.

I figured that WV would get down and wanted to see how Geno would respond. Not a good showing. :(

Isn't this similar to what everyone said last week? Oh well, that exactly what I was looking for and I agree. If he can't show something in those situations, there is no way he goes #1.

I still believe in Geno and yes I know I'm biased, but it's going to be an uphill battle unless the Mountaineers can figure out what the hell is wrong with the offense and find some sort of defense. DeForrest is looking like a complete moron even outside of the lack of secondary talent on this team. This was the second time this season a team ran the same plays over and over and he did nothing to adjust to it.

Hopefully during the bye week something can be figured out because patience in Morgantown is waning for Holgerson and are completely gone with DeForrest. If they don't get something going offensively they won't win another game until KU and the way they've played the last two weeks even that game is no gimme.

WHO THE **** DOES?

When a coach has your shtick figured out, there are VERY few QBs who can overcome that.

In the meantime, Geno Smith is a QB who has experience in pro, option read, and air raid offenses. He's had great success in all three of them. Put him in a pro system in the NFL, and I guarantee you there won't be tough defenses that just play a brand of coverage that neutralizes all of his downfield options.

Geno Smith is at fault in these past two games for maybe a handful of plays. The rest of it comes down on him for not being patient enough.

ALL the rest of this cluster**** should be placed on Dana Holgersen, who got ass raped by Texas Tech and did absolutely NOTHING to adjust his playcalling/formations from last week to this week. Said it was just about guys getting down and not trying hard enough. They got down because Holgersen put them in that position.

I'd have to see Geno Smith make some pretty terrible mistakes and lose confidence when in the pocket for me to back away from calling him a great potential NFL QB. Thus far I have not seen him get overly rattled.

Put him on a team with a good offensive playbook (any pro-style system will do... even Brian Daboll's) and he'll succeed.

This. How many tards, w/o me having to go through all these posts since last night, are chanting for Barkley now?

**** that.

I'll be happy with any of Smith, Barkley or Wilson. I've been disappointed so many times with this team, I rather not think we're getting Smith next year.

Chocolate penis.

I disagree,

It's not about a poor gameplan or being out coached because of halftime adjustments or something like that. It's about getting owned. It's about the system offense that West Virginia runs. It is fair to question whether Smith's success is from being a product of that system offense because so far he hasn't proven otherwise. Also, where was the leadership? Why did he pace around with a smug look on his face? Last week he sat by the gatorade. We need better than that in KC. That's what we have for leadership right now.

Pretty funny how even this class of QBs that looked strong with just the seniors took a ****ing nose dive half way through the college season.