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O.city 08-22-2023 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068380)
LMAO What's with the defeatist bullshit. We were an offsides away from going to a Super Bowl with a FAR worse defense even with Jones in the fold.
We also led the league in sacks that year and the AFC wasn't exactly what it is now.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 03:50 PM
And FFS, even worse case scenario Jones just plays out from midseason on, unless you're scared he's actually dumb enough to dog it or fake an injury and completely tank his earning potential

DJ's left nut 08-22-2023 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068373)
Honestly?

I'd call Pat and Trav and tell them "Hey, you know your legacy and such and wanting to go back to back? Yeah, here's what we've offered, here's the deal".

I can't imagine they're all too excited about the situation.
That's kindof an unwritten rule, though.

A) Players don't ask about that sort of thing.

B) Players don't pressure their teammates about it either.

I'm sure Pat and Travis are well aware of what's going on here. And players ALL want to see their teammates and fellow players get paid. They can add - they see where the pinch points are.

I don't think any of that is necessary.

Bearcat 08-22-2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068380)
LMAO What's with the defeatist bullshit. We were an offsides away from going to a Super Bowl with a FAR worse defense even with Jones in the fold.
Reading this thread a couple hours ago, I wanted to rename it The Chris Jones GDT.

Bwana 08-22-2023 03:53 PM
This team is gong to be just fine, with, or without Jones.
They can't overpay the guy and screw their future for the next several years.

tredadda 08-22-2023 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068368)
No, I'd play out the string and let him walk at this point.

And realize Veach and company ****ed up here by waiting to do the deal and not trading him earlier. Maybe they got played and didn't really have an idea what was coming, but that's why you get paid the big bucks to figure this out. You want props for the Tyreek thing, well, you should have had this figured out.
If only it were that simple.

siberian khatru 08-22-2023 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068368)
No, I'd play out the string and let him walk at this point.

And realize Veach and company ****ed up here by waiting to do the deal and not trading him earlier. Maybe they got played and didn't really have an idea what was coming, but that's why you get paid the big bucks to figure this out. You want props for the Tyreek thing, well, you should have had this figured out.
Unless Jones changed his mind or intentionally misled them.

Jesus, are you Soren Petro?

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068368)
No, I'd play out the string and let him walk at this point.

And realize Veach and company ****ed up here by waiting to do the deal and not trading him earlier. Maybe they got played and didn't really have an idea what was coming, but that's why you get paid the big bucks to figure this out. You want props for the Tyreek thing, well, you should have had this figured out.
You do realize worst case scenario should've been Jones plays out the 2023 season and we part friends, right? Blaming Veach for not having the foresight Jones and his agent would be reeruned enough to actually hold out given the current CBA seems a bit foolish IMO.

Regime 08-22-2023 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17068392)
This team is gong to be just fine, with, or without Jones.
They can't overpay the guy and screw their future for the next several years.


100% this.

I love Jones but it’s Chiefs first baby. We WILL be fine either way.

O.city 08-22-2023 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17068399)
You do realize worst case scenario should've been Jones plays out the 2023 season and we part friends, right? Blaming Veach for not having the foresight Jones and his agent would be reeruned enough to actually hold out given the current CBA seems a bit foolish IMO.
Probably so.

But even then...if I weren't going to meet what he wanted, I'd have figured coming off a Sb win I'd have the most amount of rope I'm ever gonna have and I'd have struck while the iron is hot and went the Tyreek route.

DJ's left nut 08-22-2023 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17068392)
This team is gong to be just fine, with, or without Jones.
They can't overpay the guy and screw their future for the next several years.
Eh - they may not be fine without Chris Jones.

I mean they'll be a playoff team, but that's not the target.

This team is a LOT worse without him occupying that attention in the middle

O.city 08-22-2023 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17068403)
Eh - they may not be fine without Chris Jones.

I mean they'll be a playoff team, but that's not the target.

This team is a LOT worse without him occupying that attention in the middle
I don't know if it's the Tyreek thing or what....but it's really surprised me how many here think this is a SB type team without Jones in the middle.

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:02 PM
A tag and trade in 24 is viable too. There actually wasn't really a reason to trade him this offseason, even if he is being completely bullheaded at the negotiating table.

RunKC 08-22-2023 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068301)
I wouldn't pay 30, sure.

The Bills have 3 or 4 pass rushers they drafted similar to Karlaftis and FAU, but carry on.

3 years of elite DPOY DT play is worth paying for

Having 4 solid rushers is fine, why can't we have that along with an elite one like they'd budgeted in for this year?

They brought in DL because the guys they drafted either didn't work out or left.
I don't think he's gonna be a DPOY candidate at age 31.

How many big 3rd contracts for DL have worked out? I would guess very few

Sassy Squatch 08-22-2023 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17068405)
I don't know if it's the Tyreek thing or what....but it's really surprised me how many here think this is a SB type team without Jones in the middle.
LMAO Because it is? We probably wouldn't be the odds on favorite anymore, no, but to act like we'd just drop out of contention altogether is ****ing ridiculous.


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