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kcgreene 06-07-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16972750)
That train left the station almost 3 months ago, you need to catch up! :D

LMAO

Did I miss him shopping for houses in Leawood too?

smithandrew051 06-07-2023 11:48 AM

Almost there

ptlyon 06-07-2023 11:50 AM

Not even close, bud

Chris Meck 06-07-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16972744)
Fail to score for multiple weeks in a row? You mean like when the Chiefs had troubles on offense in 2021 for like 6 or 7 games and they still put up an 11-5 record and were a freak Mahomes implosion away from going to the Super Bowl again?

How do you think they got out of that rut? Was it because Tyreek Hill started playing better? Or was it because Mahomes and Reid figured their shit out and started beating defenses that had slowed them down?

I'd give SOME credit to your bad argument if you framed it around, "The Chiefs can't keep having the injury luck that they do-- statistically they should have been bit hard by now." But no, it's all, "Lack of #1 WR generating #1 offense in the NFL isn't sustainable!!!!" And that's a bunch of BS.

The only thing that is sustainable offensively is a 100 catch WR who scores at least 10td's. If you don't have that, you're just getting lucky.

raybec 4 06-07-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16972775)
The only thing that is sustainable offensively is a 100 catch WR who scores at least 10td's. If you don't have that, you're just getting lucky.

Any more than 10 passing TD's to a running back in a single season is only 5 points per TD.

tredadda 06-07-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16972549)
It's funny because for decades we desperately tried to reframe the Chiefs' existence as more than it was (who wouldn't) and make up a narrative of "just make it into the playoffs and anything can happen" (narrator: it did not happen).

You just can't change the reality that you need a franchise QB to be consistently successful in the playoffs, and even one run to the SB would have been a small miracle.


So now we have that franchise quarterback and a few people want to continue changing reality, that the Chiefs are somehow in trouble every year for whatever reason.

Uh... sorry? You're stuck with a floor that's basically the AFFCG most years Mahomes is healthy (hell, even the Packers made like 5 NFCCGs with Rodgers despite their lack of success from that point).

You can't change reality that teams with franchise QBs have a huge advantage over the 28+ teams without.

By the time some people catch on, Mahomes could be retired and we'll be back to the first reality... and maybe some people prefer it that way? :shrug:

This has been true for a very long time. Heck, look at the first four SBs. Every QB who won is in the HOF. Look at the history of the SB overall and see just how few SBs were won by a team without a franchise QB. It's just not realistic to expect to win without one consistently as rules have become even more skewed favoring QBs.

Look at KC's biggest challenges in the AFC. Every one has a franchise QB. The Jets have gone from a good team with talent everywhere, but no threat to win it all to a serious SB contender all because they got Rodgers. Miami with and without Tua is stunning (and I am not sold on him even being a franchise QB). SF might be the only team in the NFL where they can have average at QB and still be a force.

I get the "Because Chiefs" mindset of some, but that has passed and to miss out on this golden era because of that is a shame. This isn't the Chiefs of the 90s anymore.

Our GM is not self absorbed in his "right-ness" and unwilling to adjust, our HC is innovative and willing to change with the times, our QB is the best drafted QB we ever had and easily the best ever. We haven't had a QB like him since trading for the shell of Montana. They have transformed the Chiefs into the gold standard franchise and one that other teams draft to duplicate or to beat.

Let's enjoy this greatness as they are entering territory that very few franchises ever achieve, especially in the FA era.

Dante84 06-07-2023 12:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins is slated to fly to Nashville on Sunday for a visit with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a>, per sources.<br><br>D-Hop and Mike Vrabel were together in Houston. Now Vrabel’s team gets the first visit with Hopkins, the five-time Pro Bowl pick released by Arizona last month. <a href="https://t.co/UUyUjLqa7Z">pic.twitter.com/UUyUjLqa7Z</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1666505101056397315?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 06-07-2023 12:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> aren’t the only team in talks with DeAndre Hopkins. But the first visit shows there is mutual interest with Tennessee. More now on Inside Minicamps Live on NFL+ <a href="https://t.co/3Q2KcTzI1V">https://t.co/3Q2KcTzI1V</a> <a href="https://t.co/QHOnEGo179">https://t.co/QHOnEGo179</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1666505397560025107?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tredadda 06-07-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 16972725)
$20 says he goes to the shit house Browns for a phat payday.

How can they afford that with the albatross that is Watson's contract?

Reroka 06-07-2023 12:02 PM

He cares more about money than a ring.

tredadda 06-07-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16972788)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins is slated to fly to Nashville on Sunday for a visit with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a>, per sources.<br><br>D-Hop and Mike Vrabel were together in Houston. Now Vrabel’s team gets the first visit with Hopkins, the five-time Pro Bowl pick released by Arizona last month. <a href="https://t.co/UUyUjLqa7Z">pic.twitter.com/UUyUjLqa7Z</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1666505101056397315?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If he signs in Tenn then it has to be just a money grab. The Titans are anything but a SB contender.

FringeNC 06-07-2023 12:05 PM

Schrager's comments about Justyn Ross make this signing a real long shot in my opinion.

Edit: Those comments were him repeating stuff he heard from the organization (obviously, right?)

tredadda 06-07-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reroka (Post 16972793)
He cares more about money than a ring.

Which is his right.

Pitt Gorilla 06-07-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16972779)
Any more than 10 passing TD's to a running back in a single season is only 5 points per TD.

Oh, no!

In58men 06-07-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16972790)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> aren’t the only team in talks with DeAndre Hopkins. But the first visit shows there is mutual interest with Tennessee. More now on Inside Minicamps Live on NFL+ <a href="https://t.co/3Q2KcTzI1V">https://t.co/3Q2KcTzI1V</a> <a href="https://t.co/QHOnEGo179">https://t.co/QHOnEGo179</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1666505397560025107?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he can openly say Titans, but not the other teams?

Why does the media have to be so ****ing secretive.


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