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Eleazar 12-09-2022 11:04 PM

I can see why a grieving family might jump to a conclusion under these circumstances but if he'd been sick for some time and had a worsening course, which is what he self-reported, those signs really don't point to foul play.

KC_Connection 12-09-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16656330)
I can see why a grieving family might jump to a conclusion under these circumstances but if he'd been sick for some time and had a worsening course, which is what he self-reported, those signs really don't point to foul play.

That's one hell of a coincidence.

SuperBowl4 12-10-2022 12:00 AM

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|Zach| 12-10-2022 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 16656347)
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what

chiefzilla1501 12-10-2022 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 16656350)
what

Don’t even go to Dc.
I don’t think I’ve ever been so disgusted with this place

Ocotillo 12-10-2022 12:17 AM

Crazy that Bob Bradley was the soccer coach at Princeton when Wahl started covering the Tiger futbol team in college. RIP.

Mizzou_8541 12-10-2022 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16656190)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NPR can confirm the death of longtime soccer sportswriter Grant Wahl (<a href="https://twitter.com/GrantWahl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GrantWahl</a>). He died today in Doha, Qatar while covering the Argentina-Netherlands World Cup quarterfinal. Story to come.</p>&mdash; Russell Lewis (@rdlewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/rdlewis/status/1601399736560680960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s awful. I feel for his family. He was a very good writer, especially as a soccer writer.

Mizzou_8541 12-10-2022 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16656190)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NPR can confirm the death of longtime soccer sportswriter Grant Wahl (<a href="https://twitter.com/GrantWahl?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GrantWahl</a>). He died today in Doha, Qatar while covering the Argentina-Netherlands World Cup quarterfinal. Story to come.</p>&mdash; Russell Lewis (@rdlewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/rdlewis/status/1601399736560680960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s awful. I feel for his family. He was a very good writer, especially as a soccer writer.

Stro39 12-10-2022 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16656330)
I can see why a grieving family might jump to a conclusion under these circumstances but if he'd been sick for some time and had a worsening course, which is what he self-reported, those signs really don't point to foul play.

I agree with this. This guy was under deadline pressure and was sick apparently for some time beforehand. He apparently had limited sleep because of his deadlines and was literally in a foriegn country; there's stress around travel, stress around a new sleeping environment etc. He's close to 50 years of age.

He likely also didn't accept as to how sick he was: imagine thinking, writing, living the previous 4 years as a soccer pundit focused on these few weeks. He gets to the event he's been dreaming about and he gets sick, he wants to soldier on so he doesn't care about himself and it ends up killing him.

This is very sad but I don't see anything here in terms of a conspiracy: may he RIP.

Straight, No Chaser 12-10-2022 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stro39 (Post 16656416)

He likely also didn't accept as to how sick he was: imagine thinking, writing, living the previous 4 years as a soccer pundit focused on these few weeks. He gets to the event he's been dreaming about and he gets sick, he wants to soldier on so he doesn't care about himself and it ends up killing him.

This is very sad but I don't see anything here in terms of a conspiracy: may he RIP.

Yes, but he tested negative for Corona, was seen in Qatar and given antibiotics and presumed to have bronchitis. Dude celebrated his birthday on Wednesday… Just freaky bizarre.

From NYT:

He is believed to have died, Scanlan said, at a hospital in Qatar or while he was being taken to one, after feeling unwell as the tournament proceeded.

“He wasn’t sleeping well, and I asked him if he tried melatonin or anything like,” Scanlan said. “He said, ‘I just need to like relax for a bit.’”


According to two New York Times journalists who were present, medical personnel performed chest compressions and other treatment for about 20 minutes before Wahl was taken out of Lusail Iconic Stadium.

Wahl was in the midst of his eighth men’s World Cup, with an aggressive schedule of reporting stories and recording podcasts.


Wahl’s wife, Dr. Celine Gounder, also confirmed the death in a post on Twitter. A family friend said that Gounder asked for privacy, and would leave all public comment to the U.S. Embassy in Qatar and the United States Soccer Federation.

Monticore 12-10-2022 06:05 AM

Trying to diagnose a cause of death from your keyboard seems idiotic to me .

Stro39 12-10-2022 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser (Post 16656445)
Yes, but he tested negative for Corona, was seen in Qatar and given antibiotics and presumed to have bronchitis. Dude celebrated his birthday on Wednesday… Just freaky bizarre.

From NYT:

He is believed to have died, Scanlan said, at a hospital in Qatar or while he was being taken to one, after feeling unwell as the tournament proceeded.

“He wasn’t sleeping well, and I asked him if he tried melatonin or anything like,” Scanlan said. “He said, ‘I just need to like relax for a bit.’”


According to two New York Times journalists who were present, medical personnel performed chest compressions and other treatment for about 20 minutes before Wahl was taken out of Lusail Iconic Stadium.

Wahl was in the midst of his eighth men’s World Cup, with an aggressive schedule of reporting stories and recording podcasts.


Wahl’s wife, Dr. Celine Gounder, also confirmed the death in a post on Twitter. A family friend said that Gounder asked for privacy, and would leave all public comment to the U.S. Embassy in Qatar and the United States Soccer Federation.

People have died in middle age previous to Corona, previous to vaccines or whatever. People dying suddenly at his age has happened before, will happen somewhere in the world today, and will happen in the future. These are just facts.

Its very sad but what I think is the most likely thing that happened is a 48 year old acting like he's 20 years younger which unfortunately has cost this man his life. At 28 years of age its much easier to get over some type of infection or flu and battle on at work, at his age? Much less so.

A conspiracy around his death seems extremely unlikely to me given there are dozens of journalists currently in Qatar who have criticized the country in much the same way as this gentleman did, and those people are very much alive.

Again, may he RIP.

POND_OF_RED 12-10-2022 09:44 AM

**** yes!!!! Morocco looking good!!! Let’s go!!!

loochy 12-10-2022 09:48 AM

Cnon Morocco Croatia final!

Skyy God 12-10-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16656540)
Cnon Morocco Croatia final!

Lol, no.


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