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DeezNutz 10-04-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6135040)
Ok, so let's say you were the GM of this team. What steps do you take? Who are the free agents you'd pursue?

I focus on defense entirely since this can be accomplished on a budget, theoretically.

We're not going to have enough money to target a meaningful bat.

Defense, defense, defense. Need at least one legit outfielder (anywhere in the OF, literally) and a middle infield glove.

Move Teahen to third, permanently. Gordon's glove is as overrated as any in the game. He can spell Butterball at first on occasion.

And hope like hell the starting rotation (Meche and Bannister) gets healthy. And storm the K if Dayton and his band of idiots abuse the starting staff next season.

Deberg_1990 10-04-2009 04:20 PM

At least Butler had a breakout season. Theres one bat that improved.

BWillie 10-04-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6138439)
Hochevar had a really frustrating season.

He had 2 or 3 starts where he was DOMINATING, then the rest....sucked.

One more year of Hochevar and if he doesn't perform he needs to be gone. He looks terrible. 6.55 ERA even WITH those two starts. That is just horrendous.

WilliamTheIrish 10-04-2009 05:46 PM

I agree with Deez. Need real capable defensive players. Everywhere.

tk13 10-04-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 6138434)
tk, I really respect you as a poster, but I have to disagree strongly with the fixed bully = 75 wins statement. The starting rotation fell apart outside of Greinke, with Meche, Banny, and Davies going on the shelf and Hochever utterly falling off the face of the earth. Tejada stepped up, but after that it was a black hole. And oh by the way, that was our "strength". The offense, defense and bullpen were terrible. I agree that the bullpen can be fixed, although Farns and Cruz aren't going anywhere and can they be trusted? The offense isn't likely to get much better, nor is the defense with Yuni, Callaspo, Gordon and Butler as the likely infield next season. Yikes.

The bullpen probably blew 20 games in the 7th and 8th inning alone. It was ridiculous. We had no bridge to Soria. In June and July we were blowing 7th and 8th inning leads on an almost nightly basis. Wright, Colon, Farnsworth, all of them. We had that one stretch right after the break where we blew a late lead in 5 or 6 straight games.

I hate to say it, but with this year's team, if we still had Nunez just to set things up, this team would've won nearly 80 games. Even with all the things that need to be fixed.

BWillie 10-04-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6139055)
I agree with Deez. Need real capable defensive players. Everywhere.

And guys that don't strike out and get on base. We must keep Callaspo. His bat makes up for whatever he struggles on defense

CaliforniaChief 10-04-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6140047)
And guys that don't strike out and get on base. We must keep Callaspo. His bat makes up for whatever he struggles on defense

I agree. Callaspo is a nice find as an everyday 2nd baseman. The right side of our infield is set, IMO.

DeezNutz 10-04-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6140143)
I agree. Callaspo is a nice find as an everyday 2nd baseman. The right side of our infield is set, IMO.

While Callaspo has been a nice find, he's absolutely the type of player that we must be looking to upgrade.

His glove is terrible.

If Butler were an above-average first baseman with great range, that might be one thing, but the right side is a joke.

No team can win with an infield of Gordon, Betancourt, AC, and Butler. That's: below average, ****ing atrocious, atrocious, below average-atrocious.

And I haven't even mentioned our two back-up catchers parading as starters.

Reaper16 10-04-2009 09:22 PM

Must. Get. Real. Shortstop.

It won't happen though. Scott Moore won't admit to making a personnel mistake.

DeezNutz 10-04-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6140177)
Must. Get. Real. Shortstop.

It won't happen though. Scott Moore won't admit to making a personnel mistake.

:(

Teahen at 3B and an above-average glove at 2B to increase the range up the middle. It's all we can hope for, to be honest, since it's a lock that Betancourt will be the everyday SS.

Coach 10-04-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6140204)
:(

Teahen at 3B and an above-average glove at 2B to increase the range up the middle. It's all we can hope for, to be honest, since it's a lock that Betancourt will be the everyday SS.

Teahen must go. I am getting tired of him. Betancourt is considered one of the worst players in today's Baseball. His OPS is .611. Not exactly great.

DeezNutz 10-04-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6140223)
Teahen must go. I am getting tired of him. Betancourt is considered one of the worst players in today's Baseball. His OPS is .611. Not exactly great.

Why?

Teahen is a defensive upgrade at 3B and a fine option to hit 6, 7, or even 2.

Teahen is a solid ML player. It's not his fault that the organization has continually ****ed with him and put him in positions to fail. He's not a corner outfielder and he's not a middle-of-the-order bat.

DeezNutz 10-04-2009 09:38 PM

To update my posts:

The numbers do not bear out my claim that Teahen would be a defensive upgrade to Gordon. UZR says it's Gordon, and it's not particularly close.

Interesting...

All I can picture when I think of Gordon in the field, however, is his glove at shoulder level, dropping a routine pop up.

For the record, both Teahen and Gordon, statistically speaking, are below-average gloves at 3B.

petegz28 10-04-2009 09:39 PM

We should get an answer about Hillman sometime this week, I would expect.

petegz28 10-04-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6140262)
To update my posts:

The numbers do not bear out my claim that Teahen would be a defensive upgrade to Gordon. UZR says it's Gordon, and it's not particularly close.

Interesting...

All I can picture when I think of Gordon in the field, however, is his glove at shoulder level, dropping a routine pop up.

For the record, both Teahen and Gordon, statistically speaking, are below-average gloves at 3B.

Gordon hit a jack today thus securing his spot in the lineup for the next 3 years.


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