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Easy 6 01-08-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
You're a Long Tabber or a Ranger, right? I'm 82nd. There are people on here with 50,000 posts who are basically PC nerds that guard this place like it was mama's purse. I come here to talk football a few times a year. I appreciate what you and all others who want to talk football have to say.
:toast:

A Soldier knows that a turd of an operation plan is rarely rescued by heroic fighting alone.

I was Air-Assault for 1 year at Ft.Campbell HOOOAAAHHH!!!

The other 3 years i was at Ft.Wainwright as a Combat Eng. operating a SEE-Tractor. Hella cold, atleast in winter, summers were fantastic.

No Ranger, no Airborne.

But in line with your thinking, i have certainly witnessed turd plans attempt to be carried out by highly capable soldiers that just didnt work because the "plan" SUCKED to begin with.

KCJohnny 01-08-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
I was Air-Assault for 1 year at Ft.Campbell HOOOAAAHHH!!!

The other 3 years i was at Ft.Wainwright as a Combat Eng. operating a SEE-Tractor. Hella cold, atleast in winter, summers were fantastic.

No Ranger, no Airborne.

But in line with your thinking, i have certainly witnessed turd plans attempt to be carried out by highly capable soldiers that just didnt work because the "plan" SUCKED to begin with.

That was my point. Thanks!
Air Assault!
(3rd BCT Rakkasans 1997-1999)

Easy 6 01-08-2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
PC Nerd.

Johnny, you should rise above the "pie" taunts & tell me just what in the world it all means. I'm here all night.

Yet i have just gotten a subtle clue that my request was bad, so proceed cautiously...

Easy 6 01-08-2007 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
That was my point. Thanks!
Air Assault!
(3rd BCT Rakkasans 1997-1999)

I had some straight up bro's in the Rakkasans, still in touch with 1, names Bill Coughlin, he got messed up pretty bad when he stood underneath a tank turret on a winch as repairs were made, winch failed & he took the brunt on a K-potted head, it saved his ability to walk.

But he lost a FULL 4 inches of height over it.

Coach 01-08-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
In this case, you DO change the offense and keep the offensive coordinator.

Why?

Because Mike Solari was never allowed to call HIS offense. This was HERM'S offense all along.

Exactly what I'm trying to explain. The system is not to complicated... everyone in the starting lineup knows the system.

Norv Turner turned around the 49ers using the same freaking system. If it's not to complicated for them, why would is it our team? Is our team stupid? It's an excuse.

Scapegoating at it's finest. Hello HERM!! I KNOW the system works... there is about 4 years of evidence. Losing Will Roaf is NOT an excuse... we didn't get beat by Dwight Freeney... we just sucked.

And this team isn't built for the style of offense that HERM wants to run. This team is built for quick passes/screens/etc.

Here's a question for anybody. If we are going to change schemes, why would we not change offensive coordinators? The only reason Solari was promoted in the first place was because he knew the old system. Now, if we change schemes, which would be Herm's new scheme, none of the coaches on the staff will be familiar with it - and Solari will be a "rookie" with it all over again.

S**t, if you want to change up the offense do it the right way.

KCJohnny 01-08-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
I had some straight up bro's in the Rakkasans, still in touch with 1, names Bill Coughlin, he got messed up pretty bad when he stood underneath a tank turret on a winch as repairs were made, winch failed & he took the brunt on a K-potted head, it saved his ability to walk.

But he lost a FULL 4 inches of height over it.

Ouch. Poor trooper. I've been ABN/AASLT most of my career. I don't like tanks. They're dangerous!

htismaqe 01-08-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
If that were the case, I'm not sure Carl would have had Gretz take Herm's side and throw the players under the bus. The Gretz article suggests to me that Herm is in complete control, and that there is going to be a purge of anyone supportive of the old guard.

This should not be confused with me taking Herm's side, but:

If they love Dick Vermeil so much that they'll mail it in the playoffs like they obviously did on Saturday, they DESERVE to be purged.

htismaqe 01-08-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
Damn I didn't even recognize that.

Saunders always used shifting and motion and try to trick the D.

Alright Herm and Solari need to be....well I can't really say it in public.

I heard Lenny Dawson say on 810 this mornign that all that motion and shifting was wasted energy...

BIG_DADDY 01-08-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I heard Lenny Dawson say on 810 this mornign that all that motion and shifting was wasted energy...

Yea it sisn't work for us at all the last few years.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I heard Lenny Dawson say on 810 this mornign that all that motion and shifting was wasted energy...

Er...that's a little weird.

|Zach| 01-08-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
I come here and get vagina laced into a few times a year.

Interesting.

NewChief 01-08-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I heard Lenny Dawson say on 810 this mornign that all that motion and shifting was wasted energy...

Was he talking about against zone defenses? My understanding (albeit limited and this may be well known) is that much of the motion and shifting is used to reveal the man-to-man coverage and expose good matchups for the QB prior to the snap. Against a team like Indy, who stay in zone and never play man, it's useless and a waste. Not sure I'd say it's a waste against other teams.

FringeNC 01-08-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
This should not be confused with me taking Herm's side, but:

If they love Dick Vermeil so much that they'll mail it in the playoffs like they obviously did on Saturday, they DESERVE to be purged.

Who mailed it in? Gretz CLAIMED they did, but Gretz's claims and the reality of a situation rarely overlap.

The information ministry has determined it's better to throw the players under the bus than the coaches.

KCJohnny 01-08-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I heard Lenny Dawson say on 810 this mornign that all that motion and shifting was wasted energy...

It is if you do all that just to go run, run, pass punt.

ROYC75 01-09-2007 08:29 AM

Edwards promises offensive changes for Chiefs
 
So much for the " I'm not no dummy, if it's not broke, why fix it " ? Why would I ? They have been doing alot of good things the past severa years here !l
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OK, Herm changed the way you call your playbook to fit the declining talent he had left on offense. He had to after the injury to Trent and the loss of Roaf and other injuries to the OL.

Will he draft back to fix that ? No, he will change the scheme, the style of play and make the players learn something different, something easier to learn for the young kids to pick up.

Don't expect too much in 2007 folks, the offense must learn a new scheme.

IMHO, with Herms and Solari's background, here comes the WC offense back to KC......


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