Agreed. Every few years it's like a new backstage villain has to be crowned for people to blame when things go wrong. And in some cases it's no doubt deserved, but then EVERYTHING starts to get blamed on them and it becomes a parody of itself.

Well, if Matt Hardy says it, then it must be true. BTW, being a jackass does not make you a spineless yes-man.

Just to throw some actual facts into this discussion, Survivor Series was November 26th. The match where Punk had his first loss, followed by all the talk about how he was in the doghouse, was January 9th. Over 6 weeks later. Not exactly a cause and effect.

And he was so pissed that he waited 6 weeks to act on it.

The problems with CM Punk have been documented pretty well over the past several weeks. Just off the top of my head, he went around complaining about his involvement in the Elimination Chamber, not a smart move for someone who has only been in WWE for a few months. He threw a fit in the dressing room at a show because the crowd didnt respond to him well. He blew off advice from agents when they tried to talk to him. And a lot of the wrestlers are not especially fond of him. That is a pretty bad mix, and those arent even all the examples.

The Elimination Chamber booking was awful....not to mention Heyman wanted to give Punk a put over in that match by having him be the one to take out Big Show which Show was fine with but Finlay and Anderson immediatly had an issue and wouldn't allow it to happen.

The WWE locker room has a high school mentality Punk's new so god forbid he say something. They expect to be able to downgrade you, talk shit to you and if you don't just sit there with your head down you're a problem. But it's cool for Randy Orton to shit in peoples bags....

As far as Finlay goes even if you respect the guy and think he's tough. As an agent in the WWE you are a yes man. You know where your bread is buttered with Steph and management. Ted DiBiase wasn't being a yes man and was telling them which pushes he thought were wrong and which guys they like were bad workers......he was fired.

Just for reference on what I think of Finlay's opinions as an agent....he lobbied for Atrain to be pushed ahead of Matt Hardy and Edge...ATRAIN. Then when he got Atrain into the spot that was suppose to be for Matt....he had awful matches with Edge and Finlay turned around and blamed Edge for it.

Yea that Finlay he knows talent...pushing for someone like Holly over Punk is just stupid, you aren't a draw due to senority. If this was 1997 Finlay and Anderson would be telling Vince that Steve Austin guy isn't any good and Henry Godwinn should get a mainevent push.

The bottom line is that Punk is a great performer (see any of the matches in the Joe v. Punk trilogy if you doubt this) that the fans want to cheer for. In a brand with very few guys that are worth a damn in the ring, he needs to be pushed to the moon. I don't care about any "attitude issues", that has no bearing on his abilities in the ring and the ability to connect with the crowd. Steve Austin beat the shit out of his wife multiple times, and Vince still brings him back time after time, so obviously they look past character issues on a case-by-case basis. Unfortunately, Vince can't see past his own ego at this point so we'll continue to see big roided-up stiffs stalking around the ring putting the fans to sleep.

One other thing I read about Punk was that they wanted him to join Spirit Squad a while ago and he refused. Obviously they were pissed at him for that but I can't disagree with his decision.

Who do you guys that like wrestling here think will go into the Hall of Fame this year? I think McMahon needs to put Randy "Macho Man" Savage in!

The WWE wants nothing to do with Savage at all so that at this point is a Pipe Dream at best....

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ma...venotes/020107

I'm sure this has nothing to do with why Punk is getting heat backstage:

PLEASE DIE THREAD!!!!

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HAHA.....that Ahmed stuff is great.

He did get included on that list of HOF candidates that Hulk Hogan gave away on the radio. And they acknowledged in a recent magazine that a Macho Man DVD is the one they get the most requests for, so it's hard to imagine that not happening at some point if they know they'll make lots of money from it.

Well......Jakks who does the action figures wanted to sign him to a Legends contract so they could make a figure. They were told by the WWE it wasn't happening and they wanted nothing to do with him at all.

So what did Randy Orton do to piss everyone off? I hate the guy so I am curious.

Which time?