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2112 09-04-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Apparently you LOVE that kind of football. You're a Jets fan. When have the Jets EVER been anything else? Herm is one of the best head coaches your franchise ever saw.

Look, after the Jets beat the Jaguars in the playoffs in January 1999 Bill Parcells said ''we needed to score at least 30 points to have a chance to beat that team''. he never said anything about controlling the clock or running the ball. Curtis Martin had like 250 total yards and the Jets won. they were UNPREDICTABLE ON OFFENSE!

Maybe if you had gone from a good coach to a bad coach you would understand it a little better.

TN_Chief 09-04-2007 07:49 PM

Ah yes...
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OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Keitzman was talking about this today.

Herm will never be popular untill we at least win the division. We went from that crazy high-scoring O, to... well, this.

He's changing the philosphy of the team... Vermeil's Chiefs made scoring look easy, and now it's not easy... so people are pissed off.

The man obviously wasn't saying that you shouldn't score more than 21 points. (for ****'s sake) He was saying that this team shouldn't need too.

He's trying to instill a tough, hard-nosed, defensive mentality.

Jesus....

Agreeing with Reerun and Keitzman in the same day. :shake:

He's absolutely right.

It amazes me that it actually matters to people HOW we win or lose.

There's no difference between losing 35-31 and losing 13-10.

A loss is still a loss. Scoring 30 points and still losing doesn't make it any easier to swallow, at least for me.

Zouk 09-04-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
You and several other Jets fans tried to tell us.


Does anyone really think the Jets were better than the Pats in Herm's tenure there? The Jets couldn't beat the Pats during those year - but the rest of the NFL couldn't either.

I think if you put Bill Cowher, Andy Reid, or other excellent coaches in the same division as the Pats during that stretch (and had their QB get hurt 3 times), they would have struggled to get 3 playoff appearances and 2 playoff victories in that stretch.

And somehow Herm went to the playoffs last year with a strating lineup consisting of the reviled Samie Parker (who will be replaced by Dwayne Bowe by the bye week), Jordan Black, Kendrell Bell, aand over-the-hill Sammy Knight and Greg Wesley at safety.

You guys on this message board are always talking about how these are the worst players out there. Herm went to the playoffs with them!

Now he's in the process of replacing them, and by next year we should be ready for the next step.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Parcells
Maybe if you had gone from a good coach to a bad coach you would understand it a little better.

All I understand is that Herm did a fantastic job with this football team last year. In the face of massive adversity he got us to the playoffs. He's the best head coach we've had in years. His ability to draft is incredible. The dude plucked a potential Pro Bowl safety in the 7th round. Are you kidding me? The guy would have to post three consecutive losing seasons to get me off his bandwagon. That ain't happening. 'Cus Herm Edwards is the SHIT! Mangina is just plain old shit.

Zouk 09-04-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
All I understand is that Herm did a fantastic job with this football team last year. In the face of massive adversity he got us to the playoffs. He's the best head coach we've had in years. His ability to draft is incredible. The dude plucked a potential Pro Bowl safety in the 7th round. Are you kidding me? The guy would have to post three consecutive losing seasons to get me off his bandwagon. That ain't happening. 'Cus Herm Edwards is the SHIT! Mangina is just plain old shit.


Erik Coleman in the 6th round, Kerry Rhodes in the 4th round, Jarrad Page in the 7th round.

Who's the common denominator?

Fish 09-04-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou
Keitzman was talking about this today.

Herm will never be popular untill we at least win the division. We went from that crazy high-scoring O, to... well, this.

He's changing the philosphy of the team... Vermeil's Chiefs made scoring look easy, and now it's not easy... so people are pissed off.

The man obviously wasn't saying that you shouldn't score more than 21 points. (for ****'s sake) He was saying that this team shouldn't need too.

He's trying to instill a tough, hard-nosed, defensive mentality.

Yup.

You were exactly right in post #137 http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=137

Some people just want to argue......

LOCOChief 09-04-2007 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru
I still vividly remember how shell shocked Herm was against Pittsburg last year when Cowher put his foot on our throats and dug it in. That look alone told me he does not have the coaching mentality needed in the NFL. He looked like his best friend just had an affair with his wife or something and he was heartbroken.

I want a damn coach with a killer mentality.

that game was an aberration, how does someone who not only made it to the pro level (pinnacle of their profession) but performed well for what 11 or 12 years against guys that were more physically gifted than him not have that killer instinct?

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk
Erik Coleman in the 6th round, Kerry Rhodes in the 4th round, Jarrad Page in the 7th round.

Who's the common denominator?

Looks like we've found Herm's wife...

KcMizzou 09-04-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Yup.

You were exactly right in post #137 http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=137

Some people just want to argue......

Thank you. Glad someone read it.

Zouk 09-04-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Looks like we've found Herm's wife...

No, I'm Chris Hannon.

2112 09-04-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk
Erik Coleman in the 6th round, Kerry Rhodes in the 4th round, Jarrad Page in the 7th round.

Who's the common denominator?

Lia,

What about DRob for 2 1st round picks? :spock:

Zouk 09-04-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Parcells
Lia,

What about DRob for 2 1st round picks? :spock:

Not our fault if his current coach is mis-using him along with Vilma.

Nzoner 09-04-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
'Cus Herm Edwards is the SHIT! Mangina is just plain old shit.

I'm not a Jets fan but do you read what you type?

The Jets went to the play-offs as well last year and played a helluva lot more entertaining and better game than our Chiefs.

I'd also bet $50 that the guy you're saying is plain old shit will make the play-offs again before Herm.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner
The Jets went to the play-offs as well last year and played a helluva lot more entertaining and better game than our Chiefs.

The Jets had an easy schedule. They got their asses handed to them by 21 points in the playoffs.


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