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SAUTO 12-07-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6326559)
You are going to argue with Jason, I hope you have brought a helmet.

why dont you take another extended absence. it's comical to think that BB did it all. comical

OnTheWarpath15 12-07-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6326530)
why 3 years? we already had this discussion, ask bigrock for the numbers again

Because they won't admit their mistake after 2.

Hell, for sake of conversation, let's say they do.

So we're at 2 years of growing pains with a 27 year old, and 2+ years with a rookie QB.

Sorry, but 4 years wasted doesn't excite me much more than 5.

Titty Meat 12-07-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6326570)
I'd like to know how anyone that has watched Cassel this year can be remotely excited about him. I didn't want the guy and I'm even less thrilled now than I was before the year started.

I'm not excited about this years Chiefs but like i've said, it'll be this off-season where I judge Pioli.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-07-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6326564)
I thought leaders were overrated?

Not leaders who lead.

Flipping the bird to the O who is whipping your ass and slamming your helmet isn't leadership.

keg in kc 12-07-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6326570)
I'd like to know how anyone that has watched Cassel this year can be remotely excited about him. I didn't want the guy and I'm even less thrilled now than I was before the year started.

I don't see anybody talking about Cassel but billay. And you.

Titty Meat 12-07-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6326573)
Because they won't admit their mistake after 2.

Hell, for sake of conversation, let's say they do.

So we're at 2 years of growing pains with a 27 year old, and 2+ years with a rookie QB.

Sorry, but 4 years wasted doesn't excite me much more than 5.

This is a valid point.

SAUTO 12-07-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6326563)
Declining defense.

Cassel was NOT responsible for the Pats missing the playoffs. 11 wins *should* get you in the tournament (high fives Carl).

11 should, and you are right the defense is what lost them 4 of those games

Hammock Parties 12-07-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6326553)
Yea and if the Chiefs win next week you'll write about how good Haley is. Sorry you're kind of irrelevant.

But it's the truth.

Why do you think Cassel's play has gone down while the rest of the team improves?

Titty Meat 12-07-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6326577)
Not leaders who lead.

Flipping the bird to the O who is whipping your ass and slamming your helmet isn't leadership.

haha Vrabel flipped the bird?

SAUTO 12-07-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6326573)
Because they won't admit their mistake after 2.

Hell, for sake of conversation, let's say they do.

So we're at 2 years of growing pains with a 27 year old, and 2+ years with a rookie QB.

Sorry, but 4 years wasted doesn't excite me much more than 5.

sorry i forgot you can read minds. we'll see how everything plays out

Titty Meat 12-07-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6326586)
But it's the truth.

Why do you think Cassel's play has gone down while the rest of the team improves?

Dropping 2 Td's is improvement? This offense hasn't imrpoved Claythan, the line is still ass, we have a RB who can't hold onto the ball. The teams best player has missed 4 games and we've still won more then last year.

Marcellus 12-07-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6326477)
I personally haven't seen that Frank.

My argument for Dorsey is that he was mis-used his rookie year, and now moved to a position that he really doesn't fit at, but could make work because of his overall talent level.

I think both Jackson and Dorsey will be serviceable players and have long careers.

I expect more than serviceable out of two Top-5 picks we have over $60M invested in, however.


Now Dorsey (who was not drafted by this group as we all know) and Jackson have been relegated to never going to be better than serviceable and then the $ is thrown in there to prove they must be better than good to be a success.

Yet when the $ was discussed when draft time came around and some people thought it was too risky to throw that much $ at a rookie QB the answer to that was why the hell do you care, its not your money.

Now Cassel is the $60 Million failure. The money seems to be a pretty hot topic now, though it sure wasn't in April.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6326593)
Dropping 2 Td's is improvement? This offense hasn't imrpoved Claythan, the line is still ass, we have a RB who can't hold onto the ball. The teams best player has missed 4 games and we've still won more then last year.

The production from the running game has improved. Chambers is a massive upgrade. Pope is an upgrade. The pass blocking has improved quite a bit. It was very solid yesterday.

Cassel has not improved. His completion percentage and touchdown to interception ratio have taken nosedives in the last six weeks.

Are you blind? These things are obvious.

OnTheWarpath15 12-07-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6326551)
but all we heard was that cassel lost 5 games and the year before they went 16-0, all that was on cassel. Why this year is it not on brady? hypocritical IMO

First, they are playing a much tougher schedule, and second, their defense isn't playing to expectations with the loss of Seymour and the injury to Mayo.

The numbers look comparable, but they've gone from facing Favre, Pennington and Edwards twice a season to Sanchez, Henne and Fitzpatrick.

The passing offense, however, has improved.

Marcellus 12-07-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6326586)
But it's the truth.

Why do you think Cassel's play has gone down while the rest of the team improves?

Isn't this a bit hypocritical considering the article you wrote after the game?
Which is it? Are they getting better or not. You are really confusing me.


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