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notorious 07-07-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724047)
I was just saying that he has made a lot of progress over the past year. His arm strength is back, he is just as smart as ever, and his ball placement is still the best in the business.

Although I am leaning toward Peyton being back to 100%, I will wait until HE IS ACTUALLY BACK so make statements like that.

BigMeatballDave 07-07-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724047)
I was just saying that he has made a lot of progress over the past year. His arm strength is back, he is just as smart as ever, and his ball placement is still the best in the business.

Really?

Show us the game footage to prove this.

Quesadilla Joe 07-07-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8724055)
Although I am leaning toward Peyton being back to 100%, I will wait until HE IS ACTUALLY BACK so make statements like that.

That's fair.

Everything that I have read from Denver media is saying that he looks (and sounds) like the Manning of old.

Quesadilla Joe 07-07-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8724059)
Really?

Show us the game footage to prove this.

What are you expecting to see from Manning this year? Are you expecting him to look like Kyle Orton?

BigMeatballDave 07-07-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724067)
That's fair.

Everything that I have read from Denver media is saying that he looks (and sounds) like the Manning of old.

Even Matt Cassel looks good in practice.

BigMeatballDave 07-07-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724071)
What are you expecting to see from Manning this year? Are you expecting him to look like Kyle Orton?

I expect him to be terribly inconsistent early on due to missing a season and because of new teammates.

milkman 07-07-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724071)
What are you expecting to see from Manning this year? Are you expecting him to look like Kyle Orton?

Don't know about Dave, but I am expeccting to see Manning performing at. or near, his usual level, with a few hiccups due to a lack of familiarity with his receiver's and his receivers still learning his system.

I also expect to see the same old Peyton Manning shit his pants moments in the playoffs.

Quesadilla Joe 07-07-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8724075)
I expect him to be terribly inconsistent early on due to missing a season and because of new teammates.

I think you are confusing the word "expecting" with "hoping"

"Terribly inconsistent" is a pretty strong statement when talking about Peyton Manning. There will be a few plays here and there where he won't be on the same page with his WR's but not nearly as many as you are hoping for.

Quesadilla Joe 07-07-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8724077)
Don't know about Dave, but I am expeccting to see Manning performing at. or near, his usual level, with a few hiccups due to a lack of familiarity with his receiver's and his receivers still learning his system.

I also expect to see the same old Peyton Manning shit his pants moments in the playoffs.

Manning has always played on flawed teams. Early in his career he had a great running game and a terrible defense. Later in his career he had a terrible running game and a good enough defense.

Teams with major weaknesses get beat in the playoffs, especially when you have to go through Belicheat to get to the Super Bowl.

Denver is the most complete team he has ever played for. They have the #1 rush offense, the #1 third down defense, great special teams, and now a franchise QB.

milkman 07-07-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724107)
Manning has always played on flawed teams. Early in his career he had a great running game and a terrible defense. Later in his career he had a terrible running game and a good enough defense.

Teams with major weaknesses get beat in the playoffs, especially when you have to go through Belicheat to get to the Super Bowl.

Denver is the most complete team he has ever played for. They have the #1 rush offense, the #1 third down defense, great special teams, and now a franchise QB.

You, my friend, are a ****ing moron.

The Broncos were the number 1 rushing team last year because of TeBow.

Without TeBow, the run game will return to it's former mediocre level.

Now the passing game will take a huge step forward with Deliverance at the helm, but the defense will be put on the field more, and it's flaws will be exposed, primarily pass defense.

The Colts throughout Manning's career there had as much talent, if not more, as the Patriots.

When Manning was losing to the "Bellicheat" Patriots, they had better RBs and better receivers, yet Manning always shit his pants.

The guy is a choker.

His history in the playoffs stands as proof of that very fact.

He has come up big in the biggest moments once in his career.

BigMeatballDave 07-07-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724094)
I think you are confusing the word "expecting" with "hoping"

"Terribly inconsistent" is a pretty strong statement when talking about Peyton Manning. There will be a few plays here and there where he won't be on the same page with his WR's but not nearly as many as you are hoping for.

I may be wrong. We'll see.

Regardless, Denver isn't the juggernaut you think it is.

Also, its hilarious and predictable how you've flipped on Tebow.

aturnis 07-07-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724047)
I was just saying that he has made a lot of progress over the past year. His arm strength is back, he is just as smart as ever, and his ball placement is still the best in the business.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees say hello.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-07-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8724107)
Manning has always played on flawed teams. Early in his career he had a great running game and a terrible defense. Later in his career he had a terrible running game and a good enough defense.

Teams with major weaknesses get beat in the playoffs, especially when you have to go through Belicheat to get to the Super Bowl.

Denver is the most complete team he has ever played for. They have the #1 rush offense, the #1 third down defense, great special teams, and now a franchise QB.

ROFL He'll feel at home with the personnel in Denver. Shit running game without the extra fullback and well below average defense. Hell, he doesn't even have as many weapons as he had in Indy.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-07-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8724122)
You, my friend, are a ****ing moron.

The Broncos were the number 1 rushing team last year because of TeBow.

Without TeBow, the run game will return to it's former mediocre level.

Now the passing game will take a huge step forward with Deliverance at the helm, but the defense will be put on the field more, and it's flaws will be exposed, primarily pass defense.

The Colts throughout Manning's career there had as much talent, if not more, as the Patriots.

When Manning was losing to the "Bellicheat" Patriots, they had better RBs and better receivers, yet Manning always shit his pants.

The guy is a choker.

His history in the playoffs stands as proof of that very fact.

He has come up big in the biggest moments once in his career.

ROFL

RealSNR 07-07-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8723949)
I said Tebow has the best work ethic in the NFL. Ever since he got traded more and more reports have came out saying that while Tebow did have a fantastic work ethic, he spent too much of his time focusing on weight lifting rather than watching film or working on mechanics.

Anyone with an ounce of football sense knew that to be the case, moron. Only people like you are just now discovering the truth.


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