Saul lives in a world where business people take their clients to the bar for 3 hours, then goes to a Tuesday Night game, and then goes back to the bar for some more drinking.

These same business men aren't willing to drive 10 minutes to and from the stadium though.

I would love the atmosphere of a downtown ballpark, but I have to confess that I love the accessibility of the current sports complex.

Saul is right on this issue.

Actually, that would be get up at 3:30am, get in line at 7:15am, get in the gate at 8:30am, and set up the grill by 8:45am. As I said, as an out of towner, I love the location. But that is football.

I can actually see what you might mean as someone who lives in town, but I still don't see a baseball game as a venue for business meetings. If you want to invite a client to a ballgame, I don't see why that has to include dinner and drinks. If you want to take them out for dinner and drinks, do that.

It's a drivers' city because of poor planning.

Thanks for settling the issue :rolleyes:

My wife and a few friends regularly entertain clients at Busch, and the majority of the time, the client is looking to get home to the family by the 7th inning and leaves early. They conduct their business and move on.

Then again, they are grown adults, not looking to get blitzed on PBR's just because someone else is footing the bill.

Well, that and JC Nichols promoting white flight and institutionalized racism.

So the tailgating only counts if it is the same people doing it everyday? :spock:

So either way you have to call your client and DRIVE to the game. If you absolutely must go to a bar get something at the stadium. If you are more concerned with getting drinks, then go to a bar at P&L and watch the game on a TV.

I live in a world where, if I meet some friends for a Friday evening game and leave at ten, the conversation goes something like this:

What do you guys want to do now? Drive to the Plaza? Drive to P&L? Drive back south and hit Tanners?

Meanwhile, my friends in Chicago live in a world where they pour out of Wrigley and wander into whatever one of dozens of places they please.

You poor guy :(

That's exactly what I do for evening games at Busch. You're already right next to the stadium, so it's not a huge deal to watch six or seven innings and leave.

You simply don't drive out to ****ing Raytown simply to watch two hours of baseball. It just doesn't make sense. People don't want to drive for an hour round trip, pay for parking, walk a mile through the parking lot, etc. to watch two hours of baseball. They have to go through all that because it's not like the stadium is right across the street from where they were going to be anyway. It's fifteen miles away from where they were going to be.

While I agree a downtown stadium would be cool and have benefits (which I don't think includes much of an increase in attendance) I also see the benefits in what we have now and I don't really see a good reason for a new one to be built.

Wrigley Field is not downtown.

Thanks for adding nothing as usual