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Chronic 07-24-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8764103)

This years Raiders team is gutted, and the Chiefs team is improved so, how are the Raiders better?

They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 8764154)

We're going to sweep their incohesive, talent depleted asses... bet on it.

Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

whoman69 07-24-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764282)
They said the same thing 2 years ago when the Raiders let Asomugha leave, Gallery left, Zach Miller, new coach in Hue Jackson etc blah, blah, blah...

Didn't affect the team one bit.. in fact they were better for it

Routt cost us 2 games because of his knuckleheaded decisions to PI WR's.. yes, he cost the Raiders 2 games and the AFC West title because he gets juked by WR on a constant basis.. you'll see soon enough

Kam Wimbley had 7 sacks last year.. 4 came in 1 game vs the Chargers against a backup filler tackle... lets not try and put Wimbley in the Lawrence Taylor circle mkay?

Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

Right now the Chiefs have just as many question marks as everybody else in the division but for some reason you failed to accept those things

1) Like, a new OC who has failed every place he's been

2) A raw, inexperienced center that's never even played the position before..

3) A RB coming off a torn ACL.. whom some say is not even 100% yet

4) a # 1 WR that might possibly holdout

And finally

5) Probably the worst QB in the NFL



Not with Cassell taking snaps you wont- If you woulda traded for Palmer.. I'd say there's a very good chance you could and might even give the Chiefs a nod to win the division

The Chiefs simply are doing one thing wrong

"Masking"

Masking the inabilities of the most important part of a football team

The QB

Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison. You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.

Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.

The Raiders are better for Al Davis being out of the way, but will the younger Davis just turn into another all controlling owner?

I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.

Brock 07-24-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764282)
Raiders are better- they get back McFadden, Palmer now has a full training camp.. (And by the way, you take away his 1st game agaisnt the Chiefs where he had 2 days to learn the playbook, and Palmer finishes with a 86% QB rating.. putting him in the top 10 of the NFL last year) They beefed up the OL in signing Brisiel from the Texans who was a big reason why Arian Foster got those yards, in fact 68% of Fosters runs were behind Brisiel- They get back DE Matt Shaughnessey who had a great rookie year... Signed DE Tollefson from the Giants, picked up vet CB's, signed Branch to a long term deal..

You're quite a homer.

BigMeatballDave 07-24-2012 03:16 PM

Hey Chronic-tard, QB rating is not a percentage.

Chronic 07-24-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8764331)
Backup the truck. One of your big negatives against the Chiefs is a RB coming off injury when the Raiders have a brokedick who's always injured but that's not a negative.

Ones coming off an ACL- the other a sprained foot

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You have a total unknown at HC because the Raider job is considered poison.
Some would agree with the poison being when Al was alive.. however this is a new era- Al Davis has past- Reggie McKenzie- the ex-Director of player personel for the Packers is now GM- Some have said he's the best young talent evaluator in the league right now...

But to Al's credit

Gruden was an unknown when he went to the Raiders, so was HOF John Madden, so was Tom Flores who won 2 SB's as a Raiders coach

Al Davis won 3 SB's.. the Hunts won 1 back when there were like 8 teams and people were still dying of polio

Romeo was 24-40 as a HC- One is unproven (Dennis Allen) the other one is a proven loser (Romeo Crennel)


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You give Daboll no credit for turning around the Dolphin's season last year.
The Dolphins got worse

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Raiders are another year older while the Chiefs are the youngest team in the league. Raiders lost several key players to the cap.
Hmm.. I dunno bou't that...

That OL avg age is 24
RB McFadden- 24
RB - Taiwan Jones - 23
RB - Mike Goodson - 25
FB - Marcel Reece - 27
WR Jacoby Ford - 24
WR Denarious Moore -23
WR- Heyward -Bey -25
WR- Juron Criner - 22
QB - Palmer - 32
TE David Ausberry - 23
TE Brandon Meyers - 26

DE- Matt Shuagnessy - 25
DE - Lamarr Houston - 25
DT - Tommy Kelly - 30
DT-Richard Seymour -32
DT- Desmond Bryant - 26
DT - Christo Biliukidi - 23
DT - Travis Ivy - 25
OLB Phillip Wheeler - 27
MLB - Ro McClain - 23
OLB Aaron Curry - 26
LB - Travis Goethel - 25
LB - Miles Burris - 24
CB - Demarcus Van Dyke - 23
CB - Chemdi Chekwa - 23
CB - Ron Bartell - 29
CB - Shawntee Spencer - 30
CB - Conroy Black - 23
S - Tyvone Branch - 25
S- Michael Huff - 28
S -Matt Giodano - 29
S -Aaron Henry - 23
S- Brandon Underwood - 26


The above proves 1 thing

You're a confused individual


Quote:

I think if the Raiders get 4 wins this year, its a success.
Yeah, okay.....

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8764507)
The Dolphins got worse

It's hard to believe but this guy may be more clueless than AutumnWind.

BossChief 07-24-2012 03:44 PM

They have us losing 8 of our 10 losses by 5 or less points?

I don't see it.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764550)
They have us losing 8 of our 10 losses by 5 or less points?

I don't see it.

I don't see your point.

Prisco's scores basically have us giving up about 20 PPG, while scoring 19. I can see that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-24-2012 03:50 PM

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The last time the Chiefs went to the playoffs, they did it with Cassel
Yeasssss, and what a GREAT showing by Murk Turdenheimer it was!

BossChief 07-24-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8764561)
I don't see your point.

Prisco's scores basically have us giving up about 20 PPG, while scoring 19. I can see that.

My point?

That I don't see us losing every single close game we will play this year.

I'll take split of those games for a 10-6 finish.

TLO 07-24-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8762802)
It's not, really.

Why the **** do you think Cassel is .200 against elite QBs?

And FYI, the point, really, is that Cassel got beay 17-10, in a game he put up 7 points.

He could get beat 13-9 just as easy.

And he got beat 13-10 in his first Chiefs start.

Did Cassel bang your wife or something?

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8764516)
It's hard to believe but this guy may be more clueless than AutumnWind.

The Dolphins avg 330 yards a game in 2010

When Daboll got there last year they finished the year at 310 yards per game

That's getting worse

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8764592)
My point?

That I don't see us losing every single close game we will play this year.

I'll take split of those games for a 10-6 finish.

He has us winning some close games.

5, in fact.

Remember, Cassel has NEVER won a close game against a playoff team.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan369 (Post 8764593)
Did Cassel bang your wife or something?

Essentially, yes.

The Chiefs are like my significant other. I love them unconditionally, devote a lot of time and attention to them and think about them every day.

Cassel has been ****ing my wife hard.

Chronic 07-24-2012 04:17 PM

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...650&h=440&q=75

Heres Standford Routt ladies... he's #26, you know.. the one falling down after getting beat...


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