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Dr. Johnny Fever 08-23-2012 07:22 PM
So what do you guys think about Matt Cassel vs. Quinn/Stani? I'm surprised I haven't seen anything posted about it.

jd1020 08-23-2012 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8845717)
So what do you guys think about Matt Cassel vs. Quinn/Stani? I'm surprised I haven't seen anything posted about it.
I think we should all end each others misery.

Dr. Johnny Fever 08-23-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8845719)
I think we should all end each others misery.
:)

Hammock Parties 08-23-2012 07:44 PM
Flacco is 27-36 for 266 yards tonight.

Suck it, Cassel.

RealSNR 08-23-2012 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8845778)
Flacco is 27-36 for 266 yards tonight.

Suck it, Cassel.
Christ. There is no "I know it's just preseason" thing to be said here.

One half of play and he puts that up. The fact that it's preseason makes it even MORE impressive and even more damning of the defense he was facing.

chiefzilla1501 08-23-2012 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8845692)
Not sure how Smith failed at every opportunity. He led a game leading drive late in the 3rd. Only to watch the lead slip away as Eli was given back the ball on a muffed punt. Then he led a game tying FG drive. Only to have that wiped out by another muffed punt at the end of the game and they never got the ball back.

But, w/e. Alex Smith failed...
Cool.

Then let's build off this formula.

While the majority of Super Bowl berths and victories are won by a handful of elite QBs, by all means our goal should be to build a superb team around a mediocre QB in the hopes of lucking into becoming the Bears or the Ravens.

Hammock Parties 08-23-2012 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8845849)
Christ. There is no "I know it's just preseason" thing to be said here.

One half of play and he puts that up. The fact that it's preseason makes it even MORE impressive and even more damning of the defense he was facing.
He played most of the third quarter, too.

It's still impressive.

If Cassel ever threw 36 passes in 3 quarters we'd be down by 21.

BossChief 08-23-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8845232)
In a truly fair competition, Cassel wins 99 times out of 100. Sad but true.
Who knows?

Give Stanzi Cassels pocket and weapons and put Cassel on the group Stanzi has played with and who knows what happens.

Hard to say either way being that the team doesn't want anybody but Cassel to have any looks with the first teamers.

I do agree that Stanzi hasn't earned that right, yet...but I also think he has gotten a raw deal on the field so far, too.

Lets not act as if Cassel would be doing any better under the pressure Stanzi has seen in every game he has played in so far.

We have seen what happens to Cassel under pressure....even the kind of pressure he imagines and isn't really there.

jd1020 08-23-2012 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8845858)
Cool.

Then let's build off this formula.

While the majority of Super Bowl berths and victories are won by a handful of elite QBs, by all means our goal should be to build a superb team around a mediocre QB in the hopes of lucking into becoming the Bears or the Ravens.
Point me in the direction of the elite QB on our roster. Til then STFU

Cassel is our best option. Deal with it.

BossChief 08-23-2012 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8845669)
Eli Manning made two huge third down conversions when they had to have them.

Alex Smith failed in every opportunity.

The fumbled punts are pointed to as the reason for the loss, but the bottom line is that, when either team needed to have their QB come up big against an outstanding defense, only one did, and that QB went to the SB.
Its a testament to how good the rest of the team was that they should have made it to the superbowl despite Alex Smith.

chiefzilla1501 08-23-2012 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8845882)
Point me in the direction of the elite QB on our roster. Til then STFU

Cassel is our best option. Deal with it.
I can point you to one QB who has had a million and a half legit chances to be the answer and has failed. And then I can point you to the one gullible guy on this thread that thinks that on the million and first chance, he's going to start showing something.

jd1020 08-23-2012 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8845904)
I can point you to one QB who has had a million and a half legit chances to be the answer and has failed. And then I can point you to the one gullible guy on this thread that thinks that on the million and first chance, he's going to start showing something.
You have yet to give me a name of the elite QB on the Chiefs roster.

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chiefzilla1501 08-23-2012 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8845911)
You have yet to give me a name of the elite QB on the Chiefs roster.

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I never said we had an elite QB.

I've said there is one QB who is definitively not the answer. And two guys who have an outside shot of being the answer, and a decent shot at being better than Cassel.

You're acting like they have some big bar to cross. No. They have to prove to be better than Matt Cassel. And with a few games under the belt, that is absolutely achievable.

Why do they have to be an elite QB to justify replacing a mediocre QB with no upside?

And why do you insist that these backups with few snaps to prove they're worthless have a huge mountain to climb to replace a starter with a million snaps that proves definitively that he's worthless?

jd1020 08-23-2012 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8845937)
I never said we had an elite QB.

I've said there is one QB who is definitively not the answer. And two guys who have an outside shot of being the answer, and a decent shot at being better than Cassel.

You're acting like they have some big bar to cross. No. They have to prove to be better than Matt Cassel. And with a few games under the belt, that is absolutely achievable.

Why do they have to be an elite QB to justify replacing a mediocre QB with no upside?

And why do you insist that these backups with few snaps to prove they're worthless have a huge mountain to climb to replace a starter with a million snaps that proves definitively that he's worthless?
Exactly. Until they do...

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chiefzilla1501 08-23-2012 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8845947)
It's always funny when people use empathic clipart to back up an argument nobody else agrees with.


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