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Baby Lee 09-15-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8913330)
Two words: Geffen Records.

You tell them: BULLSHIT! We do NOT make B music here at Geffin. Let's put a stop to that rumor RIGHT now!

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 8913325)
This thread had good footing for a while. Then the usual asswads came in and made asswads of themselves again LOL.

I'm due at a funeral at 9am so Dane asswad can think I gave up if it makes him feel better about himself.

Good thread overall... thanks guys.

LMAO

Yeah, I'm an "asswad" because I called out your nonsense.

Is this how you always end threads? Take your ball and go home? What a ****ing sore loser.

KChiefer 09-15-2012 11:00 PM

Voted Beatles.

A while back PBS did a special called John Lennon's Jukebox. I really enjoyed it! They also released a compilation CD by the same name. The one thing I will always remember for it was them talking about a Gary "US" Bonds song called Watch Your Step. When I heard it, there is a riff that Led Zepplin directly lifted. I can't recall the name of the Zep song. Anyways, it showed me the back and forth between American artists influencing English artists which in turn influenced American artists.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/lennon/index.html

PS: Sitting here watching SNL and Frank Ocean just ended his song by playing an arcade game while John Mayer played a guitar solo. We've come a long way baby! :doh!:

Brock 09-15-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913341)
You tell them: BULLSHIT! We do NOT make B music here at Geffin. Let's put a stop to that rumor RIGHT now!

These are big albums. We don't put Wallace Beery on some fruity record about suffering.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
Holy Shit. I'm a big supporter of remix culture, but I hold no fantasies that all previous rights holders were made whole.

There's shit ton that was repurposed without compensation. I've made my peace with it, but I don't claim righteousness.

EDIT: And yes, I'm aware Kirby is a Ginger Chewbacca

We've gone through this before: Copyright law is Lyric and Melody. If those songs were published and copyrighted, the original rights holders should have been compensated.

Now, I cannot claim with any accuracy that those songwriter in the video you provided were paid properly. What I can tell you is that since at least 1993, if there's a copyright/sample/whatever dispute, NO ONE gets paid until they're properly cleared.

Publishers usually work out all the details before songs are released on major labels and I'd imagine that if an Indie label released a record or song in which the label hadn't cleared the samples, they'd be slapped with an immediate injunction. Fortunately, that stuff doesn't happen to often any more.

Baby Lee 09-15-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8913364)
We've gone through this before: Copyright law is Lyric and Melody. If those songs were published and copyrighted, the original rights holders should have been compensated.

Now, I cannot claim with any accuracy that those songwriter in the video you provided were paid properly. What I can tell you is that since at least 1993, if there's a copyright/sample/whatever dispute, NO ONE gets paid until they're properly cleared.

Publishers usually work out all the details before songs are released on major labels and I'd imagine that if an Indie label released a record or song in which the label hadn't cleared the samples, they'd be slapped with an immediate injunction. Fortunately, that stuff doesn't happen to often any more.

Are you telling us you have proof that Elvis was alive AND MAKING NEW MUSIC after 1993? That is AMAZING!!!!

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913341)
You tell them: BULLSHIT! We do NOT make B music here at Geffin. Let's put a stop to that rumor RIGHT now!

Dude, the amount of marketing and promotion dollars (including the initial video) that went into Nirvana was astonishing.

Hell, Pearl Jam's record had been released in late 1991 with no fanfare. I saw them on the KU Campus in Spring 1992 for FREE. It wasn't until Eddie Vedder publicly lambasted Sony Records for putting all their money into the Spin Doctors that they began promoting Pearl Jam.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913369)
Are you telling us you have proof that Elvis was alive AND MAKING NEW MUSIC after 1993? That is AMAZING!!!!

What? What did I miss?

Baby Lee 09-15-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8913374)
Dude, the amount of marketing and promotion dollars (including the initial video) that went into Nirvana was astonishing.

Hell, Pearl Jam's record had been released in late 1991 with no fanfare. I saw them on the KU Campus in Spring 1992 for FREE. It wasn't until Eddie Vedder publicly lambasted Sony Records for putting all their money into the Spin Doctors that they began promoting Pearl Jam.

No, no, no. You are right, art isn't art until it's properly promoted.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913381)
No, no, no. You are right, art isn't art until it's properly promoted.

Oh boy.

Baby Lee 09-15-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8913378)
What? What did I miss?

You started off stating Elvis didn't steal shit, then backed it up with not knowing shit about IP compensation of the era and assuring us that everything has been copacetic since 1993.

Just following your line of assurance.

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913385)
You started off stating Elvis didn't steal shit, then backed it up with not knowing shit about IP compensation of the era and assuring us that everything has been copacetic since 1993.

Just following your line of assurance.

I'd like for you to prove to me that Elvis stole intellectual property.

I'd like for you to prove to me that Bob Dylan stole IP.

I'd also like for you to prove to me that since 1993, things haven't been "copacetic".

Thanks in advance.

Baby Lee 09-15-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8913378)
Is this how you always end threads? Take your ball and go home? What a ****ing sore loser.

Fore posterity's sake, before the victory laps commence, may I observe that it's ****ing SUNDAY for the bulk of America?

Psyko Tek 09-15-2012 11:18 PM

rather listen to eddie and the cruisers

DaneMcCloud 09-15-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8913388)
Fore posterity's sake, before the victory laps commence, may I observe that it's ****ing SUNDAY for the bulk of America?

And that means?

:shrug:


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